06:00:43 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
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06:01:06 <tagoh_> hi
06:01:06 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:01:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:01:06 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:01:06 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-08-19
06:01:09 <ueno> hi
06:01:28 <pravins> hi tagoh_ ueno :)
06:01:36 <pravins> who else there for meeting?
06:01:45 <paragan> Hi
06:02:00 <Satya> hi
06:02:22 <pravins> hi paragan Satya :)
06:02:31 <pravins> ok we have 5 attendees, lets start :)
06:02:33 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:02:34 <pravins> #info 2015-08-25   Software Translation Deadline
06:02:34 <pravins> #info 2015-09-08 	Beta Freeze (*)
06:02:34 <pravins> #info 2015-09-08   Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
06:02:34 <pravins> #info 2015-09-22 	Beta Release
06:02:36 <pravins> #info 2015-10-13 	Final Freeze (*)
06:02:38 <pravins> #info 2015-10-27 	Fedora 23 Final Release
06:02:49 <pravins> Happy no change slip in schedule, even we able to release Alpha on time when people were travelling for flock.
06:03:25 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:03:30 <pravins> #info #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins)
06:03:30 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
06:03:34 <epico> hi
06:04:01 <pravins> hi epico :)
06:04:52 <pravins> I thought we will get update immediately after flock but no progress still. I have queried to decause and also sent email to mattdm hopefully we will get some update by next Monday.
06:05:03 <fujiwarat> hi
06:05:16 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
06:05:28 <mfabian> Hi!
06:05:48 <pravins> hi mfabian :)
06:06:13 <pravins> I have to present to council for Fedora G11N activities.
06:06:18 <pravins> created small presentation
06:06:24 <pravins> #link https://pravins.fedorapeople.org/G11N-Council.pdf
06:06:32 <pravins> please go through it and let me know if anything missing.
06:07:06 <pravins> any question on FAD?
06:08:29 <pravins> i think 2 months are sufficient to get VISA and cheap flight rates. If approval is going to Sept its bit risky.
06:09:48 <tagoh_> so if we can't get any decision within this month, we'll reschedule this?
06:11:04 <pravins> i feel our present plan is very perfect, since its aligned with OS summit.
06:11:27 <pravins> so we will try to stick to it as much as possible. but if long delay then no option :(
06:12:14 <pravins> we must get something concrete by this month to proceed.
06:12:47 <pravins> lets move ahead
06:12:49 <pravins> #info #50: Feature/Change planning for Fedora 23 (pravins)
06:12:53 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/50
06:13:33 <pravins> We are doing good here.
06:13:38 <pravins> anything on this topic?
06:15:01 <pravins> moving to next ticket
06:15:02 <pravins> #info #52: Fedora 23 Test day planning (pravins)
06:15:06 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/52
06:15:48 <pravins> tagoh_: in last meeting QA was mentioning they are migrating testday app. dunno if its going to affect our testday anyway.
06:16:10 <tagoh_> aha
06:16:36 <epico> a new wiki page for ibus-libzhuyin test case is needed?
06:17:11 <pravins> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-17/fedora-qa.2015-08-17-15.03.html/
06:17:17 <pravins> epico: yes.
06:17:39 <epico> pravins: sure, will do tomorrow.
06:18:27 <pravins> nice :)
06:18:40 <pravins> lets quickly go through https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/TestdayApp/F22
06:19:26 <pravins> there are 2 test cases with same name. " ibus-cangjie (Traditional Chinese);"
06:19:42 <pravins> only the method of testing defers?
06:20:19 <pravins> can we remove yum-langpacks from test day?
06:20:31 <epico> ibus-cangjie maybe only the data is different?
06:20:50 <paragan> yum is still in fedora so we should keep it
06:21:25 <paragan> we may want to remove it in next f24
06:22:12 <tagoh_> do they still work? doesn't yum redirect to dnf right now?
06:22:20 <pravins> but yum redirecting to dnf, so either may be need to update test case?
06:23:08 <paragan> okay fine let's remove them
06:23:29 <pravins> #agreed to remove yum langpacks test case from testday.
06:24:35 <paragan> note we have yum-deprecated binary with which we can use yum-langpacks
06:24:46 <mfabian> ibus-cangjie is the package name. It contains both the "cangjie" and "quick" engine.
06:25:04 <epico> mfabian, right
06:25:16 <pravins> one thing come into my mind, we are not covering other Fedora products. Server, Cloud and Atomic
06:25:27 <pravins> aha, i thought "quick" is just method to test it quickly ;)
06:25:33 <pravins> thanks mfabian :)
06:26:17 <pravins> #info ibus-cangjie has two engine "cangjie" and "quick". Thats why two test cases to test.
06:26:45 <pravins> one thing come into my mind we are not testing other products. Fedora Server and Cloud.
06:27:12 <pravins> dunno may be we just need to jump in these products test day and test i18n stuff or have some tests into our test day.
06:27:27 <pravins> Even we have Atomic as well now
06:28:31 <pravins> mfabian: no test case for Unicode 8.0, right?  i remember we dropped last time saying Glibc having nice test suite and does not make sense to test and user end.
06:28:58 <mfabian> pravins: No, we don’t have a test case for that.
06:30:20 <pravins> i will drop email on g11n list to suggest missing test cases.
06:31:00 <pravins> tagoh_: did we asked for dedicated test image from QA last time?
06:31:23 <tagoh_> pravins: no, not yet. do we need it?
06:31:31 <pravins> i was testing L10N test image given by QA and liked that, it is little bit customize with some messages.
06:32:06 <pravins> it gives some message in live. i.e. participate in Test day with test day name.
06:32:23 <pravins> and it logged in person to #fedora-test-day via Firefox.
06:32:42 <pravins> though Live runs very slow :(
06:32:59 <tagoh_> pravins: well, we do if no sufficient latest images are available.
06:33:07 <tagoh_> for testing
06:33:18 <tagoh_> otherwise we could reuse the snapshot or so
06:33:19 <pravins> yeah, make sense.
06:34:13 <pravins> unfortunately we not able to do test cases cleaning activity yesterday. May be we need to do it once again.
06:34:32 <pravins> may be not require to schedule day, we can simply go through it and fix things :)
06:35:01 <pravins> I will try and also pull Satya into it ;)
06:36:50 <pravins> anything we missing on test day?
06:37:10 <pravins> ohh, our next meeting after i18n test day :)
06:37:30 <pravins> may be we can quickly check in G11N meeting next week on our i18n test day readiness.
06:38:04 <pravins> #action pravins Add i18n test day topic in next weeks meeting.
06:38:16 <pravins> #info #53: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 23 release (pravins)
06:38:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/53
06:38:23 <pravins> nothing on this from me today
06:38:39 <pravins> any specific bug we should try for F23?
06:40:36 <Satya> thanks pravins
06:41:00 <pravins> .bug 1254775
06:41:03 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1254775 hangs when run with language other than English under Python 3 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1254775
06:41:20 <paragan> yep working on this today
06:41:51 <pravins> thanks paragan :)
06:42:34 * pravins also have to fix bunch of liberation-fonts bugs, those are fixed in upstream but need new release
06:43:04 <pravins> We got one request to mentor for  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/i18n/2015-August/002003.html
06:43:22 <pravins> can anyone take look at it or help him?
06:46:02 <mfabian> pravins: Maybe I should talk with him because I reported that bug?
06:47:03 <pravins> mfabian: yeah, may be just provide some guideline i.e. whom to talk.
06:47:23 <mfabian> Probably Rui Matos knows more about this gnome stuff.
06:47:32 <pravins> perfect !!
06:47:55 <pravins> its good if someone drive the stuff.
06:48:27 <pravins> anish_: hi :)
06:48:44 <anish_> hi pravins
06:48:47 <pravins> lets move to last topic.
06:48:54 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:49:06 <pravins> anything to discuss?
06:50:35 <pravins> lets close meeting in couple of minutes.
06:52:32 <pravins> thanks all for meeting !!
06:52:38 <pravins> #endmeeting