15:02:03 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:02:10 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
15:02:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
15:02:15 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
15:02:26 <adamw> ahoyhoy, who's around to A some Q?
15:02:28 * satellit_e listening
15:03:25 * kparal is here
15:03:36 * pschindl is here
15:03:39 <randomuser`> drive-by comment: I would have tested a nightly last night if there was a link to the nightly in the topic for #fedora-qa
15:03:40 * roshi is here
15:03:46 * garretraziel is here
15:04:29 * pwhalen is here
15:04:57 <adamw> randomuser: interesting thought
15:05:17 <tflink> is A for annihilate?
15:05:28 <adamw> A can be for whatever you want it to be
15:06:05 <adamw> randomuser: of course there are ~25 different links to different nightlies, every night...:)
15:06:23 <adamw> #chair kparal roshi
15:06:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw kparal roshi
15:07:26 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:08:00 <adamw> #info "adamw to find slide deck from Flock 'exploratory testing' talk and post it to the list" - didn't do that yet. I suck.
15:08:08 <adamw> #action adamw to find slide deck from Flock 'exploratory testing' talk and post it to the list
15:08:49 <adamw> info "adamw to store the empty results wikicode for the l10n test day so we can fall back on manual result entry if necessary" - did that, but as it happened the app stuck around long enough and I imported the results on Friday
15:09:05 <adamw> so here comes a big one: "tflink to work on Bodhi 2.0 related tooling changes"
15:09:07 <adamw> tflink?
15:09:39 <kparal> we tried to make taskotron work with bodhi 2.0
15:09:52 <kparal> everything seems to be working, but we can't post comments yet
15:10:00 <kparal> working on it now with infra
15:10:08 <tflink> pretty much done. bodhi comments don't work for taskotron yet but that's in progress until we have proper fedmsg emission from resultsdb
15:10:18 <lmacken> kparal: posting them? where's the issue for that?
15:10:46 <kparal> lmacken: that's the ticket I just pinged you about, I need to clarify a few things before I post a patch for taskotron
15:10:54 * Corey84 takes notes in back row
15:10:55 <lmacken> kparal: that issues is about sending email for comments, not posting them
15:11:04 <kparal> yes
15:11:11 <kparal> that's the reason why we add comments
15:11:24 <adamw> it's basically a hack to get emails sent
15:11:24 <lmacken> it'll send an email for all comments anyway, afaik
15:11:34 <kparal> lmacken: that was my question
15:11:37 <lmacken> or at least fedmsgs->fmn->emails
15:11:40 <kparal> anyway, let's move this to #fedora-apps?
15:11:43 <lmacken> sure :)
15:11:45 <kparal> thanks
15:11:53 <adamw> question: the UI has all this spiffy stuff about requiring certain taskotron tests to pass
15:11:55 <adamw> does that work?
15:12:07 <lmacken> adamw: yeah
15:12:29 <lmacken> adamw: the gating happens in the masher, and if anything doesn't meet the listed tests, it gets ejected from the push and an update.eject fedmsg gets sent (along with an email)
15:12:29 <adamw> speaking for the optimists, lmacken; speaking for the pessimists, tflink? :)
15:12:57 * tflink has no idea what goes on behind the curtains for bodhi - has no reason to question lmacken
15:12:58 <lmacken> we should test one with rpmlint :)
15:13:03 <adamw> alright :)
15:13:22 <tflink> lmacken: and you can field the complaints on that one :-P
15:13:28 <adamw> tflink: behind the curtains it's just all just lmacken typing really, really fast
15:13:44 <adamw> he decided in the end that'd be less trouble than dealing with all the questions about when bodhi2 was gonna be done
15:13:45 <tflink> so ... lmacken == oz?
15:14:23 <adamw> the oz of Fedora
15:14:34 <tflink> i think that upgradepath and depcheck are working well enough to rely on for this - so long as it can be overridden
15:14:45 <lmacken> hahaha
15:14:57 <adamw> tflink: for now it's an opt-in thing, so we could try it with a few packages and see if the mechanism works
15:15:08 * adamw could enable it for some of his updates
15:15:29 <adamw> so aside from taskotron, what's the status of other things wrt bodhi 2?
15:15:38 <lmacken> easy karma still broke
15:15:42 <tflink> blockerbugs should be working
15:15:51 * tflink has a patch for most of f-e-k
15:15:57 <tflink> was waiting on some bodhi bugs to finish it
15:16:12 <lmacken> excellent. feel free to tag them as critical on github
15:16:32 <tflink> will do
15:16:37 <danofsatx> I heard there's a meeting going on. nasty rumours?
15:16:51 <adamw> no no, there's no meeting here
15:16:54 <adamw> nobody here but us chickens
15:16:59 <adamw> ...squawk.
15:17:15 <handsome_pirate> oy
15:17:35 * handsome_pirate flaps his arms
15:18:00 <adamw> #info "tflink to work on Bodhi 2.0 related tooling changes" - taskotron is mostly done, may still be an issue about comment posting. blockerbugs should be working, easy-karma is broken but tflink has a patch which is waiting on some bodhi issues
15:18:07 <adamw> anyone looked at gooey-karma?
15:18:38 <tflink> not yet - it'll probably have similar problems to f-e-k
15:19:32 <adamw> #info fedora-gooey-karma will likely also need work
15:19:37 <tflink> data member name changes, different assumptions about what's valid/invalid
15:20:01 <adamw> ok. thanks for the update
15:20:05 <adamw> and thanks to lmacken for bodhi 2!
15:20:48 <adamw> anything else for follow-up before i move on?
15:21:13 * roshi has nothing
15:21:28 <adamw> alrighty
15:21:31 <adamw> #topic Cloud Test Day status
15:21:43 <adamw> so we have the Cloud test day coming up this week according to the calendar
15:21:47 <adamw> has anyone been taking care of that?
15:21:48 <roshi> I'm working with Dustymabe on this one
15:22:45 <adamw> oh dear. i also suggested 08-27 for cinnamon. i'd better update the cinnamon ticket and see if we can move it to next week
15:22:56 <roshi> we'll get the rest of the wiki page up and done soon
15:23:29 <roshi> I don't know if there'd be much overlap in users there - they could be ran concurrently I think
15:23:58 <adamw> it's a mess to communicate though
15:24:08 <adamw> also we'd probably need a bit more time to set up cinnamon
15:24:27 <roshi> fair enough
15:24:28 <adamw> so basically status for the event is it's a-ok and all on track?
15:24:33 <roshi> yep
15:24:38 <roshi> gonna do a blog post on it
15:24:51 <adamw> awesome
15:25:17 <adamw> #info Cloud test day is on track and roshi is taking care of helping set it up
15:25:33 <adamw> #action adamw to suggest a new date for Cinnamon test day that would have collided with Cloud
15:25:38 * satellit_e running f23 cinnamon live (EFI) here
15:26:56 <adamw> #topic Compose status reporting
15:27:45 <adamw> so just to mention this briefly - we've more or less got it set up now so that openQA tests run nightly (assuming there are images to test) and then a 'compose report' email is sent to the list
15:28:04 <adamw> that's what the 'Fedora XXX compose check report' emails that have been showing up lately are
15:28:47 <adamw> if anyone had thoughts or suggestions on that, please say so, there's certainly scope for improving the reports
15:31:28 <adamw> #info the 'official' openQA will now be running tests and sending out the compose reports nightly, if all goes well
15:31:40 <adamw> if no-one had any notes we'll move on :)
15:32:10 <kparal> maybe it would be good to attach some link to an explanation of what all of this "openqa fedora testing" is
15:32:18 <kparal> but first someone would have to write it :)
15:34:26 <adamw> hehe, true
15:34:48 <adamw> i guess i'll look if one of the text files in the git repo is sufficiently non-scary
15:36:15 <adamw> various paths i keep thinking down with this stuff seem to wind up involving a step 'and then of course i'll write a webapp', at which point i stop thinking down them and start drinking
15:36:19 <adamw> anyhoo. moving on!
15:36:25 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:36:35 <adamw> that's all I had for the agenda - anything I missed?
15:37:00 <adamw> for F23 status, beta TC1 is scheduled for tomorrow
15:37:17 * roshi has nothing to add
15:37:17 <danofsatx> chit, beta already?
15:37:25 <roshi> blocker review here in a couple minutes
15:37:26 <adamw> so i guess i'll stop writing things to tell us that nightly composes are all explodey and go find out *why* they're all explodey today
15:39:08 <adamw> #info Beta TC1 is scheduled for tomorrow
15:42:08 <adamw> alrighty, if there's nothing for open floor we can all take a break before blocker review funtimes
15:43:40 <adamw> thanks for coming, folks
15:43:43 <adamw> #endmeeting