18:00:10 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2015-10-01)
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18:00:10 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:10 <nirik> #topic aloha
18:00:10 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson
18:00:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:10 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions / Apprentice feedback
18:00:21 * pingou 
18:00:25 * roshi 
18:00:30 * puiterwijk is here
18:00:41 * dotEast2015 here
18:00:41 * aikidouke is here
18:00:46 <nirik> Any new folks like to give a short one line introduction? or apprentices with questions or comments?
18:01:14 * tflink is here
18:02:01 <smdeep> Hi I am Sudeep and I would like to be a volunteer for the Fedora Infra
18:02:24 <nirik> welcome smdeep. :) Are you more interested in sysadmin or application development? or both?
18:02:38 <smdeep> I am more interested in sysadmin
18:02:39 <pingou> welcome smdeep
18:02:57 <smdeep> pingou: Thanks
18:03:16 <nirik> cool. Do read the getting started docs and we will get you setup. ;)
18:03:19 <danielbruno> Hi, I would like to come back to the group and help with sysadmin and python dev tasks
18:03:29 <smooge> hello
18:03:34 <smdeep> nirik: Been reading the docs
18:03:35 <nirik> welcome back danielbruno. ;)
18:03:35 * threebean is here
18:03:48 <danielbruno> nirik: thanks :-)
18:03:54 <smooge> smdeep, danielbruno welcome
18:04:04 <dgilmore> hey all
18:04:12 <smdeep> smooge: thanks
18:04:13 <danielbruno> smooge: ;)
18:04:23 <danielbruno> dgilmore: hey
18:04:49 <smdeep> dgilmore: hi
18:05:13 <nirik> great. So, see us after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you added to the apprentice group, etc...
18:05:34 <nirik> so, lets go on to status / info... not much this week:
18:05:38 <nirik> #topic announcements and information
18:05:38 <nirik> #info We have moved from lockbox01 to the batcave01 - kevin
18:05:38 <nirik> #info Likely will have a mass update/reboot cycle next week - kevin/smooge/patrick/relrod
18:05:38 <nirik> #info Apprentice nag email will be going out 2015-10-01, watch for it! - kevin
18:05:50 <nirik> anyone have more or want to discuss those any?
18:06:09 * pingou ❤ batcave
18:06:51 <nirik> oh, I was going to mention something:
18:07:10 <aikidouke> nirik - do you do anything to suppress notifications when reboots are done?
18:07:30 <puiterwijk> aikidouke: we just disable notifications in nagios
18:07:31 <nirik> this weekend if things are quiet I will likely try testing out a prerelease ansible2 on our setup... see if it's faster or has bugs we can report to ansible folks.
18:07:46 <pingou> cool
18:07:50 <threebean> oooo
18:07:55 <threebean> that sounds great.
18:08:01 <roshi> shiny
18:08:03 * pingou has a MM2 release coming up, nothing fancy though, mostly bug fix
18:08:16 * pingou wants to cut a pagure release, *lots* of changes there
18:09:02 <smooge> nirik, do you have rpms for them?
18:09:07 <nirik> I know one thing for master runs that will be faster... https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_strategies.html but that will need some playbook changes
18:09:18 <nirik> smooge: toshio has a copr. ;)
18:09:39 <pingou> installs in parallel?
18:09:43 <nirik> http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/toshio/ansible-upstream/
18:10:31 <nirik> I have also filed outage tickets for next week... cloud on the 5th and the rest of the servers on the 6th
18:10:35 * linuxmodder late
18:10:53 <nirik> #topic TRAC tickets review - everyone
18:10:56 <threebean> in other news, we deployed 'autocloud' this past week for the two-week-atomic initiative.  there are apparently still a couple bugs to work out but it seems to be otherwise functioning as planned.  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic
18:11:06 <threebean> thanks to smooge, puiterwijk and everyone else who helped work on that.
18:11:18 <pingou> oh and pdc
18:11:19 <nirik> oh yeah. ;) great teamwork there... thanks to all innvolved
18:11:26 <threebean> sorry for any headaches, too.
18:11:27 <pingou> https://pdc.fedorainfracloud.org/
18:11:51 <threebean> yeah, thanks to pingou and puiterwijk for making pdc happen :)
18:11:54 <pingou> team work there ^as well :)
18:12:01 <pingou> threebean: you started it :)
18:12:10 <nirik> does anyone have any trac tickets they want to discuss? I don't have a list or anything, but we can poke at some if people have ones...
18:12:11 <threebean> next steps for pdc will be figuring out how to populate it without it becoming a manual burden.
18:12:14 <puiterwijk> Interresting info: PDC is our very first SAML2 SP. I'm looking into moving our other apps to SAML2 as well
18:12:16 <linuxmodder> side note: from docs and WS sig  we  should be  hearing about a  r/n update for 23
18:12:51 <linuxmodder> ws folks  pushed a  silent  ua  in chrome  and  were kinda  pushed to  make a r/n note
18:12:57 <nirik> puiterwijk: keeping the openid and persona though right?
18:13:09 <puiterwijk> nirik: yeah, I'm not planning on deprecating any of those protocols
18:13:12 <roshi> so, I was poking around the PDC web UI - what all functionality will it provide?
18:13:20 <roshi> is there a doc somewhere I can read up on it?
18:13:28 <nirik> linuxmodder: ok, not sure that impacts infrastructure any, but thanks for the info
18:13:32 <puiterwijk> just looking at SAML2 for our internal apps. I have a 20-line patch for flask-fas-openid that does it all, so it looks to be easy enough
18:14:33 <pingou> ws, ua, r/n ?
18:14:38 <threebean> roshi: no, but I'll try to put more information on or near this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/ComposeDB
18:14:51 <roshi> ok, thanks
18:15:20 <roshi> w/o data in there it was hard to suss out what it actually *did* - and the github README didn't have anything either...
18:15:21 <nirik> roshi: https://github.com/release-engineering/product-definition-center is the upstream
18:15:39 <nirik> but not sure that helps much
18:15:44 <roshi> yeah, I just haven't built the docs for it yet and the README was empty, basically
18:16:10 <dgilmore> roshi: it pretty much gathers tons of data in a way and place we can use to make decisions
18:16:32 <smooge> what does pdc do?
18:16:45 <dgilmore> smooge: collects and reports on data
18:16:49 <roshi> ok, thanks
18:17:05 <nirik> gathers info on things and products that are made of the things so you can tell what things of what versions are in what products
18:17:10 <dgilmore> it can also be used to define what goes into artifacts and compsoes
18:17:20 <dgilmore> composes
18:17:40 <nirik> so the theory is that we could tell if foo changes that affects products x y z
18:17:41 <threebean> fwiw, it doesn't actually do the collection/gathering of that data (afaik).  we're going to have to instrument our releng tools to feed it that information.
18:17:58 <dgilmore> threebean: the compose process will submit the data
18:17:59 <threebean> so, it just keeps that data and provides an API for it.. and API that we'll then query from other tools to automate the world.
18:18:03 <roshi> so integrate with fedmsg and call it a day?
18:18:09 <lmacken> roshi: indeed ;)
18:18:14 <roshi> :p
18:18:20 <dgilmore> no
18:18:33 <pingou> basically :)
18:18:42 <lmacken> :shipit:
18:19:18 <nirik> anyhow... anyone with tickets they would like to discuss?
18:19:45 <nirik> or any other discussion items?
18:19:59 <nirik> I really need to line up some folks to talk about some applications. ;) Anyone game for next week?
18:20:16 <threebean> maybe kushal could do autocloud? :p
18:20:22 <pingou> +1
18:20:26 * threebean cannot volunteer him though
18:20:31 <kushal> threebean, I can
18:20:37 <kushal> nirik, but where?
18:20:55 <kushal> nirik, more important when? :)
18:21:05 <dotEast2015> all folks or sysadmins?
18:21:21 <tflink> i can do one on taskotron and where we're going from an infra perspective
18:21:23 <nirik> kushal: next week, this meeting, you discuss autocloud and how it's setup and waht it does and how people can help you with it.
18:21:39 <kushal> nirik, Okay, will do that.
18:21:49 <nirik> cool. and then week after tflink for taskotron? ;)
18:21:53 <kushal> nirik, put an action item on me :)
18:21:58 * tflink will be on pto then
18:22:17 <threebean> other ideas for future weeks.  1) One of us could research PDC and give the group a tour around its features and capabilities.  2) maybe pingou and I could give a talk on fedora-packages and report on our refactoring work in a few weeks?
18:22:17 <nirik> tflink: oh, hum. will you be around next week? could do it then and kushal can take the week after?
18:22:44 <dgilmore> sigul?
18:22:45 <kushal> nirik, i am okay
18:23:01 <pingou> dgilmore: we did that one already
18:23:01 <tflink> i think so, let me doublecheck
18:23:04 <tflink> i can do it later, too
18:23:08 <dgilmore> pingou: okay
18:23:15 <nirik> well, whatever time works for folks...
18:23:21 <tflink> might be more interesting to do it that way, too - i should have more bits in infra ansible then
18:23:26 <nirik> yeah I did sigul a long time ago, we could do it again tho. :)
18:24:04 <nirik> threebean: side note, we should schedule a meeting with SmootherFrOgZ on fas3... and come up with a definite timeline/plan.
18:24:22 <threebean> oh jeez.  yeah, that keeps slipping.
18:25:05 * nyazdani hears there be sigul discussion
18:25:12 <threebean> nyazdani: we're brainstorming ideas for "talks" to be given in the infra meeting where someone goes into some depth about how a particular app or service is designed.
18:25:22 <threebean> and sigul was mentioned as an option.
18:25:50 <nirik> all good ideas. ;)
18:25:56 <nirik> tflink: so when is good for you?
18:26:12 <tflink> either next week or the 29th
18:26:22 <nyazdani> cool. i myself wouldn't claim to be nearly knowledgeable enough to do that, but if mitr were available, i would love to hear what he has to say
18:26:32 <threebean> cool, cool.
18:27:18 <nirik> tflink: how about next week and kushal can take the next one?
18:27:24 <tflink> works for me
18:27:25 <nirik> and then we can go from there. ;)
18:27:40 <nirik> nyazdani: have you heard anything from him of late?
18:28:07 <nyazdani> nope, but i've also been slammed with classes starting. i'll have time to get back into things this weekend
18:28:51 <nirik> cool. Ping me or dgilmore if you need any help with sigul (at least any help we can provide... )
18:28:56 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:29:04 <nyazdani> will do, thanks :)
18:29:21 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? things we should discuss? Favorate superhero villans?
18:29:34 * roshi has nothing
18:29:40 <pingou> the joker is always a safe bet
18:29:44 <threebean> my new favorite is the guy from Ex Machina..
18:29:55 <puiterwijk> How about the guy from Saw?
18:30:10 <pingou> lex luthor?
18:30:16 <roshi> Carnage
18:30:38 <roshi> from spiderman
18:30:48 <pingou> perl?
18:30:50 * pingou runs
18:31:01 <roshi> ^^ DING - WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
18:31:01 <nirik> ha
18:31:09 * nyazdani high-fives pingou
18:31:19 <fhackdroid> threebean, Ex machina crazy movie
18:31:27 <puiterwijk> nyazdani: only problem is that pingou ran away :)
18:31:31 * pingou _ó/\o_ nyazdani
18:31:56 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, will close in a few... hopefully we will have a more focused meeting next week. ;)
18:31:57 <threebean> fhackdroid: definitely :)
18:32:30 <fhackdroid> i was in a state of shock after watching that movie :P
18:32:44 * roshi still hasn't seen it
18:32:44 <pcreech|work> ditto
18:32:46 <roshi> worth it?
18:32:49 * nirik has not either
18:32:56 <pcreech|work> blew my mind
18:34:06 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. ;) Do continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps. ;)
18:34:08 <nirik> #endmeeting