06:01:11 <pravins> #startmeeting G11N
06:01:11 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 28 06:01:11 2015 UTC.  The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
06:01:11 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
06:01:14 <pravins> #meetingname G11N
06:01:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'g11n'
06:01:17 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:01:20 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-10-28
06:01:33 <pravins> Who else available for meeting today?
06:01:38 <paragan> hi
06:02:19 <mfabian> Hi
06:02:29 <pravins> hi paragan mfabian :)
06:03:03 <tagoh_> hi
06:03:07 <pravins> hi tagoh_ :)
06:03:13 <pravins> #chair paragan mfabian tagoh_
06:03:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_
06:04:17 <anish_> Hi!
06:04:34 <pravins> hi anish_
06:04:39 <pravins> #chair anish_
06:04:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: anish_ mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_
06:04:50 <pravins> moving to next topic
06:05:01 <suanand> hi
06:05:06 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:05:06 <pravins> #info 2015-11-03 	Fedora 23 Final Release
06:05:09 <juhp> hi
06:05:31 <pravins> only remaining thing from F23 is Final release. There was slip of 1 week due to some blocker bugs
06:06:27 <pravins> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2015-October/001693.html
06:06:43 <pravins> Any concerns from Fedora 23?
06:07:45 <juhp> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/23/final/buglist
06:09:55 <pravins> hoping no further delay in schedule. Specifically since we have F23 release event in FAD ;)
06:10:11 <pravins> on Same day !!
06:10:56 <pravins> moving to next one.
06:11:01 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:11:03 <tagoh_> pravins: in fact early event I suppose so that there are time difference
06:11:04 <pravins> #info #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins)
06:11:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
06:11:26 <fujiwarat> hi
06:11:35 <pravins> tagoh_: true actually we are doing before public announcement.
06:11:57 <pravins> but in past such things had happened and people used to continue with planned dates.
06:12:05 <pravins> slips are unavoidable :(
06:13:09 <pravins> for Budgeting FAD last year, they did release event one month before actual release, I was one to object it. ;)
06:13:20 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
06:13:30 <pravins> #chair fujiwarat juhp
06:13:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: anish_ fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_
06:14:34 <pravins> 2 important task for FAD today to assign action items to each one for home work/pre-work before FAD
06:14:44 <pravins> and if possible completing hackathon schedule page.
06:15:38 <juhp> would spreadsheet of people vs projects help to see common interests?
06:15:57 <juhp> can't have too many office docs ;o) :-)
06:16:18 <juhp> just an idea dunno how practical it is
06:16:19 <pravins> yes, already too much :)
06:16:43 <juhp> also I don't think google spreadsheet support vertical writing....
06:17:17 <pravins> #info juhp has sent email to all FAD participants regarding important point for attending FAD.
06:17:17 <juhp> quite a bit of duplication on the Hackathon doc though
06:17:21 <juhp> yes
06:17:48 <pravins> #info FAD wiki page has update schedule now. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_G11N_2015
06:17:50 <anish_> juhp, thanks for email
06:18:10 <pravins> anish_: and suanand can you both sync up for Zanata work?
06:18:15 <juhp> if you have questions please ask, here or via email etc
06:18:22 <suanand> sure Pravin.. :)
06:18:27 <pravins> suanand: will be remote so you both can work/collaborate on IRC
06:18:47 <suanand> sure
06:19:00 <pravins> I think other Zanata members can join same.
06:19:26 <suanand> anish_: I will be available on irc..
06:20:32 <anish_> i will also work with paragn regarding hunspell web stuff uo and running
06:20:44 <pravins> #action anish_ and suanand to sync on python-zanata-client development.
06:21:06 <pravins> #action pravins to prepare for Fedora G11N discussion and planning.
06:21:31 <pravins> Noriko and Ani missing :(
06:21:52 <pravins> #action Noriko and Ani to sync up on "Fedora L10n status and discussion"
06:22:33 <juhp> pravins, this is homework right?
06:22:37 <pravins> yes.
06:23:03 <juhp> s/sync/prepare/ might be clearer :)
06:23:12 <pravins> #undo
06:23:12 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by pravins at 06:21:52 : Noriko and Ani to sync up on "Fedora L10n status and discussion"
06:23:27 <pravins> #action Noriko and Ani to prepare up on "Fedora L10n status and discussion"
06:23:28 <juhp> anyway as long as people as informed/reminded :)
06:23:30 <pravins> corrected :)
06:23:35 <juhp> :)
06:23:40 <juhp> just clarifying
06:24:36 <pravins> #action tagoh_ to prepare for Fedora I18n status and discussion.
06:25:06 <pravins> #action Alex and Carlos to prepare for Zanata status and discussions.
06:25:14 <pravins> moving to hackathon now.
06:25:49 <pravins> i hope we not missed anything else for first day.
06:25:59 <pravins> #info hackathon schedule https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDELi4js/edit
06:27:20 <pravins> dunno how to proceed for hackathons
06:27:57 <pravins> lots of topics and number of people involved in more than one topic.
06:28:05 <pravins> Any idea?
06:29:03 <juhp> self-organizing :)
06:29:03 <pravins> #info Fedora template for slides https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations/Template
06:29:09 <pravins> juhp: +1
06:29:17 <pravins> self organizing is only best idea.
06:29:43 <anish_> +1
06:29:58 <juhp> or bar-camp style but I think with the small-ish size people can just group by themselves naturally - I hope so anyway
06:30:25 <juhp> it is large FAD though
06:30:33 <juhp> I believe
06:30:34 <pravins> yeah
06:30:47 <pravins> May be we can simply list topic on board
06:30:58 <pravins> and ask everyone to start there name while starting??
06:31:23 <pravins> and other can join??
06:31:39 <pravins> so scheduling 5 topic in first hackathon session.
06:31:46 <pravins> 5 topics in next hackathon session??
06:31:51 <pravins> is this looks good.
06:32:23 <pravins> definitely starting all 19 hackathon topics at single session going to help.
06:32:39 <tagoh_> thought I asked before, do we need a white board for groups during hackathon?
06:33:08 <pravins> yes, white board will be required. to write imp. point
06:33:12 <pravins> or explain.
06:33:21 <pravins> sorry, if missed earlier :(
06:33:32 <tagoh_> 4?
06:33:48 <juhp> tagoh_, good question - had forgotten to ask that too
06:33:54 <pravins> 4 sufficient
06:33:56 <juhp> I think whiteboard(s) would be good
06:34:15 <juhp> for interactive discussions
06:34:33 <juhp> 4 should be plenty
06:34:38 <pravins> So how do you feel scheduling around 5-6 topics for each session?
06:34:43 <juhp> do we have so many available?
06:34:46 <pravins> lets participant decide where to contribute
06:34:57 <tagoh_> juhp: dunno
06:34:58 <juhp> pravins, dunno
06:35:16 <juhp> tagoh_, okay even one better than none :)
06:35:30 <tagoh_> sure. let me ask.
06:35:57 <juhp> pravins, I feel better to let people decide in general - but it could be good to have option
06:36:05 <juhp> but not forced
06:36:32 <juhp> pravins, some people may like that
06:37:03 <pravins> my only concern was, we have around 19 topics and 14 participants
06:37:31 <pravins> if at first session 14 participants start working on 14 task then there will be less collaboration. Though this is less likely to happen :)
06:38:00 <juhp> yeah
06:38:05 <pravins> dunno i thought good to have some order or let people list topics on board
06:38:08 <pravins> and other join
06:38:09 <juhp> I guess not all topics will be covered
06:38:16 <juhp> again the spreadsheet could help
06:38:16 <pravins> yeah.
06:38:23 <juhp> to see that
06:38:55 <pravins> At least we can categorize L10N. I18n and Zanata
06:39:04 <pravins> and try to make some parallel.
06:42:00 <pravins> I think we can work on this later and even on the fly will work but better if we try to do some organization for everyone understanding.
06:42:53 <juhp> yep
06:43:05 <pravins> One more things required from all participants, specifically funded.
06:43:17 <juhp> let's try to prepare something before the Hackathon
06:43:27 <pravins> +1
06:43:54 <pravins> #action Try to prepared some ordering/organization for hackathons before FAD.
06:44:11 <pravins> #undo
06:44:11 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by pravins at 06:43:54 : Try to prepared some ordering/organization for hackathons before FAD.
06:44:19 <pravins> #action Try to prepare some ordering/organization for hackathons before FAD.
06:44:37 <pravins> I have wrote one blog already
06:45:02 <pravins> #link http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2015/10/five-days-to-go-for-first-ever.html
06:46:04 <pravins> Anything on FAD?
06:46:26 <pravins> I will be travelling today late night to Tokyo, will check email in between.
06:47:41 <suanand> pravins: has provided my inputs to anish_, anish_: thanks :)
06:48:28 <pravins> suanand: nice :)
06:49:14 <pravins> some of FAD attendees are already present at Open Stack summit.
06:49:27 <pravins> Carlos and Alex
06:49:59 <pravins> lets go to next topics
06:50:01 <pravins> #topic New task
06:50:09 <pravins> #info #2: Moving translation deadlines around Beta
06:50:09 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/2
06:50:27 <pravins> Was thinking to have some discussion on this before FAD. But looks like we can do some during FAD itself :)
06:50:39 <pravins> moving to next one
06:50:40 <pravins> #info #3: Zanata translation platform user survey
06:50:43 <paragan> yes
06:50:43 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/3
06:51:31 <pravins> Today is deadline for completing survey. I was earlier Ani and Luke was talking about this,
06:51:36 <pravins> So will get email soon on this.
06:51:47 <pravins> Summary presentation will happen in FAD.
06:51:58 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:52:12 <pravins> please bring if anything we missed?
06:52:45 <pravins> Out test day reports are available on Fedora Magazine now
06:52:47 <pravins> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/globalization-test-days-report-fedora-23/
06:53:09 <pravins> Marketing team started community blogs now. i.e. specifically for Fedora developers and contributors.
06:53:13 <paragan> pravins++
06:53:14 <zodbot> paragan: Karma for pravins changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:53:26 <tagoh_> nice
06:53:56 <pravins> #link http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/
06:54:13 <pravins> and our G11N test report are luckily first post there :)
06:54:20 <pravins> s/there/there as well :)
06:54:56 <pravins> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2015-October/018187.html
06:55:20 <pravins> Anything else before we close?
06:56:34 <pravins> Wishing happy journey to all travelling members and all the best for productive Fedora G11N FAD :)
06:56:42 <suanand> +1
06:56:50 <pravins> closing in 2minutes
06:59:17 <pravins> thanks all for meeting
06:59:21 <pravins> #endmeeting