21:00:02 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
21:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 29 21:00:02 2015 UTC.  The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:05 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:00:07 <stickster> #topic Roll call!
21:00:12 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:13 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:01:21 <jzb> .hellomynameis jzb
21:01:22 <zodbot> jzb: jzb 'Joe Brockmeier' <jzb@redhat.com>
21:01:46 <stickster> o/ Joe
21:01:52 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:01:54 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:02:15 <stickster> o/ Justin
21:02:36 <stickster> ryan msg'd me and said he's on the bus almost to the office, will be along soon enough
21:02:45 <jflory7> Hiya!
21:02:55 <cydrobolt> .hello cydrobolt
21:02:56 <zodbot> cydrobolt: cydrobolt 'Chaoyi Zha' <summermontreal@gmail.com>
21:03:34 <stickster> #chair jzb jflory7 cydrobolt
21:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 jzb stickster
21:04:02 <stickster> #topic Agenda note
21:04:09 <stickster> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Editorial_meetings
21:04:24 <stickster> #info Agenda will be looser today -- we have some non-story items we should probably cover
21:04:43 <jflory7> Sounds good.
21:04:59 <roshi> .hello roshi
21:05:00 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com>
21:05:27 <ryanlerch> .hello
21:05:27 <zodbot> ryanlerch: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
21:05:34 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:05:35 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:05:38 <stickster> #chair roshi ryanlerch
21:05:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 jzb roshi ryanlerch stickster
21:05:49 <ryanlerch> sorry for being a tad late :)
21:05:57 <stickster> No worries, we're just getting rolling
21:06:26 <stickster> I was thinking we'd look *very quickly* at this week's work and the week ahead, and then some additional items that came up on the ML
21:06:32 <jzb> just wrapping up, we've decided we're going to go all Upworthy style headlines from now on.
21:06:33 <stickster> +/-1?
21:06:50 <jzb> stickster: +1
21:06:55 * roshi has been busy with release stuff
21:06:56 <stickster> jzb: "10 awesome things about Fedora 23, you won't believe #5"
21:06:58 <roshi> cutting it close
21:07:11 <stickster> roshi: I have a question about that, but not for this meeting :-)
21:07:20 <roshi> sgtm
21:07:38 <stickster> #topic Retrospective
21:07:47 <stickster> ryanlerch: Can you do this in 8min or less? :-)
21:07:54 <ryanlerch> :) yeah
21:08:00 <stickster> go4it!
21:08:28 <ryanlerch> this week was pretty light -- the main post was the second systemd one which ended up being retty awesome
21:08:30 <stickster> "An Aussie took over this meeting, and you won't believe what happened next"
21:08:37 <ryanlerch> thanks for the edits stickster :)
21:09:19 <stickster> sure... I think we were able to keep a lot of the sense of what Bryan put together, ultimately
21:09:31 <ryanlerch> the ohter posts this week were the g11n one, and mattdm 's announcement about the revised release date
21:09:53 <ryanlerch> with that one, i tried to make the headline a little less negative in the social posts
21:10:04 <ryanlerch> "Fedora 23 release date revised"
21:10:11 <ryanlerch> rather than delayed :)
21:10:42 <ryanlerch> for the month, we are going to be less than last month, but still pushing 150,000 pageviews
21:11:02 <stickster> yeah, and mattdm's take on it was really well done... it's hard to make a slip sound *good* but he did a great job explaining what the tradeoffs are
21:11:04 <ryanlerch> also sometime during this month we broke the 2million pageviews
21:11:24 <ryanlerch> and that's about it for this week
21:11:34 <ryanlerch> next week is going to be a big one though :)
21:12:05 <stickster> ryanlerch: AWESOME!
21:12:19 <stickster> yes, it certainly will -- hopefully sets the pace for a record-breaking November
21:12:36 <jflory7> Definitely!
21:12:54 <stickster> All right, rolling ahead then...
21:12:56 <stickster> #topic Week ahead
21:13:09 <stickster> #info F23 announcement (DUH!)
21:13:19 <jflory7> Didn't see that one coming. :)
21:13:41 <stickster> So in the past this has been copied in from the wiki... I was planning on doing that on Monday afternoon, at which point all the relevant info should be there.
21:14:05 <stickster> At the same time, I'll have a watch on the wiki page so if it *does* change suddenly I can fix the FMag article to match
21:14:34 <stickster> jzb: Does that work for you? Did you, or anyone, have other ideas about how to do this differently/better?
21:15:14 <jzb> I have been a bit detached, honestly
21:15:21 <jzb> but that seems workable
21:15:38 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds good -- the wiki does need a little work
21:15:58 <ryanlerch> i did a small bit yesterday -- it was still talking about bete
21:16:11 <stickster> jzb: No worries, I might be asking the wrong person. I'll post something to the list about it :-)
21:16:17 <stickster> Thanks ryanlerch
21:16:38 <stickster> #action stickster post to marketing ML to remind about F23 announcement and outline plan, look for any input/objectiosn
21:16:55 <stickster> #info systemd next part
21:17:22 <stickster> So on this note... I don't think we *have* a next part right now, although we do have later parts
21:19:21 * jflory7 nods
21:20:07 * stickster wondering if he's talking to himself
21:20:19 <jflory7> Bryan was also writing that one, right?
21:20:57 <jflory7> Would be nice to have something close to a final draft by Sunday, this week was definitely a time crunch. It worked itself out, it seems, but was definitely hurried there at the end
21:20:59 <ryanlerch> will the next part be part2-1? or the orignial part 3?
21:21:00 <stickster> correct -- I can reach out to him to see if he's putting something in, but the point of having the drafts due early is to prevent an editing crunch. Perhaps a bit selfish since I figured on doing the editing for some of these :-)
21:21:35 <ryanlerch> stickster: not at all selfish
21:22:47 <stickster> #action stickster mail Bryan to check status
21:22:51 <stickster> ^ done just now, btw
21:22:56 <jflory7> Sounds good.
21:23:01 <ryanlerch> +1
21:23:35 <stickster> ryanlerch: Your question above is a good one -- whether we want to use some of the other material Bryan wrote originally on some lesser-used units, or move ahead to dependencies
21:24:32 <jflory7> Other than next week's article, all of the others seem to be in good standing.
21:24:43 <stickster> (and ordering.)  I tend to think the lesser-used units would be good to save for a later post, because they're... well, less used. :-) However, ordering in systemd is actually REALLY cool and both more simple and more complex than you'd think
21:25:00 <ryanlerch> if those lesser used units are more obscure, it might not flow as well to have another article in there about units
21:25:06 <stickster> jflory7: Yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to moving forward with something else now, and then giving some more time for the deps/ordering thing
21:25:15 <ryanlerch> it might work better towards the end of the series
21:25:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: They are things like mount, automount, timer, and path -- some are quite *important* but they're not nearly as often used by humans
21:26:16 <ryanlerch> ah -- so then i reckon we skip them for now :)
21:26:24 <ryanlerch> keep the flow going
21:26:57 <ryanlerch> IMHO this series is just the scratch the surface overview :)
21:27:22 <stickster> although there are some *great* topics we could explore without getting too complicated, like FAQ type thngs
21:27:44 <stickster> jds2001: What would you think about us taking your article on converting SysVinit scripts next?
21:28:18 <stickster> That would give me time to gear up either #3 on systemd ordering, or #4 on journal, in the midst of next week's hubbub
21:28:33 <keekri> Hi guys, I'm keekri, a new volunteer who's applying for outreachy this time. Sorry for being late, but can I sit through the meeting too ?
21:28:45 <ryanlerch> keekri: welcome!
21:28:47 <roshi> sure thing keekri :)
21:28:52 <stickster> keekri: Sure thing
21:28:58 <keekri> Thanks! :)
21:29:07 <roshi> in fact, I have a bunch of meetings you can sit through :P
21:29:20 <stickster> OK, in the interest of time, I can ask jds2001 about using his article offline/on list
21:29:38 <ryanlerch> stickster: the scripts conversion one would work in this order IMHO
21:29:48 <stickster> It seems like it, especially since they're generally simple to do
21:30:08 <jflory7> Welcome keekri :)
21:30:09 <ryanlerch> and a good follow-on from the what is a unitfile post
21:30:15 <stickster> #action stickster contact #5 author about using his SysVinit post next
21:30:40 <stickster> #info OpenVPN post
21:31:10 <stickster> oh wait, we'll get there
21:31:12 <stickster> #undo
21:31:12 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 21:30:40 : OpenVPN post
21:31:18 <stickster> #info Fedora Developer Portal
21:31:33 <bee2502> Hi everyone, I am bee. I am an Outreachy applicant interested in contributing to CommOps.
21:32:29 <roshi> welcome bee2502 :)
21:32:39 <stickster> hi bee2502, feel free to sit in
21:32:43 <jflory7> Welcome bee2502!
21:32:49 <bee2502> #info bee2502 (UTC +5.30) Interested in Metrics,Fedora Magazine,CommOps
21:32:59 <jflory7> I haven't had a chance to look the Developer Portal article since the latest revisions today.
21:33:08 <jflory7> * look at
21:33:12 <jflory7> Will open now
21:33:48 <stickster> jflory7: Can I chalk you up to do final edits on this? We need to have it ready for tomorrow morning just in case the portal is ready to go then -- it's not clear that will be the case but would be good to be prepared :-)
21:34:05 <jflory7> stickster: I can definitely have that done, Fridays are good days for me
21:34:08 <jflory7> Any time in particular?
21:34:39 <ryanlerch> http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10476&preview_id=10476
21:34:41 <stickster> jflory7: Well, the portal guys are in Brno, CZ -- so they are UTC +1 right now (compared to my UTC -4 on East Coast, 5 hours ahead)
21:34:41 <keekri> #info keekri (UTC+5.30) Interested in Storytelling, Wiki, Commops, Fedora Magazine and Fedora Comm Blog.
21:34:47 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Do final review / edits for Developer Portal article by Friday
21:34:54 <jflory7> I can have it done earlier tomorrow then
21:35:03 <jflory7> I'm usually up pretty early for US EST anyways.
21:35:11 <stickster> jflory7: So if it's done tonight that would be ideal -- that way if they go live in the morning Europe time, Ryan can hit publish for them
21:35:19 <jflory7> Ah, I see
21:35:29 <jflory7> Will definitely look at it tonight then.
21:35:29 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i can work on the featured image too
21:35:31 <jflory7> #undo
21:35:31 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 21:34:47 : jflory7 Do final review / edits for Developer Portal article by Friday
21:35:38 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Do final review / edits for Developer Portal article by later tonight
21:35:42 <ryanlerch> it is slightly the wrong dimensions
21:35:47 <stickster> But I know that could be a big request -- jflory7, don't feel like we're chaining you to a keyboard!
21:35:58 <jflory7> stickster: Definitely not, I don't mind. :)
21:36:09 <stickster> jflory7: You are AWESOME!
21:36:12 <stickster> jflory7++
21:36:13 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for jflory7 changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:36:22 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:36:23 <stickster> YOU get a cookie, and YOU get a cookie...
21:36:28 <jflory7> :)
21:36:30 <ryanlerch> beees!
21:36:54 <ryanlerch> http://beesbeesbees.com/
21:36:56 <ryanlerch> sorry
21:37:02 <roshi> lol
21:37:27 <jflory7> Heheh.
21:37:40 <jflory7> Anyways, so anything else for the Portal article?
21:38:09 <stickster> nothing I can think of
21:38:20 <ryanlerch> nothing from me
21:38:28 <stickster> So with those in the hopper, it should be a decent week of publishing :-)
21:38:36 <ryanlerch> stickster: woot!
21:38:40 <jflory7> Awesome!
21:38:56 <ryanlerch> was thinking of drafting up a few extended articles about f23 features
21:38:56 <jflory7> That DNF upgrade article will finally see the light of day. :D
21:39:19 <stickster> You're right jflory7! That needs to go out either later in the day Tuesday or Wednesday morning!
21:39:21 <ryanlerch> to complement the dnf update one by jflory7
21:39:43 <stickster> ryanlerch: Was it decided in a previous meeting how to do that?
21:39:56 <stickster> I mean, order/timing of publishing announcement vs. DNF upgrade article
21:40:13 <ryanlerch> stickster: i cant recall if we decided anything
21:40:16 <jflory7> Ooh. Actually, I need to go back and do a little context editing, I wrote it under the pretense that F23 was on the way
21:40:25 <keekri> Hey guys, I know I'm new but is there something that I could do ? I've an important test on Saturday moring but after that, I'm free all week so...
21:40:38 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Update DNF upgrade article to reflect being published after F23 release
21:40:45 <ryanlerch> in the past it was after -- only because i only remembered to do it a day or so after, and not as oganized as jflory7
21:42:10 <jflory7> keekri: If you're tight for time, you could read the meeting minutes tonight, but I would start by signing into the Magazine with the FAS and adding your account to the Wordpress. Then I would send a short little intro to the marketing list and we can help get you started from there. :)
21:42:44 <stickster> ^ Yup, what jflory7 said! Also keekri, if you have a sample of writing you've done that you could point us to, that would help us gauge where you could help :-)
21:43:08 <stickster> personal blog, any online article you've written, whatever :-)
21:43:17 <keekri> Sure thing! I mean, I could help with the DNF upgrade article if you don't mind getting it by tuesday/wednesday
21:44:54 <stickster> So I think -- ryanlerch, correct me if I'm wrong -- it would be good to get the DNF article out in the magazine roughly the same time as the release announcement, but "pin" the announcement at the top of the feed for at least a few days
21:45:23 <keekri> Oh yeah, I've a blog. It doesn't have the tech articles I write though, that's in other that I'm revamping. But the not tech is here ==> https://cutencrazyindie.wordpress.com/
21:46:35 <stickster> cool keekri -- thanks!
21:46:39 <jflory7> stickster: That sounds like a good plan to me.
21:46:48 <keekri> :D!
21:46:59 <stickster> ryanlerch: ^^ DNF timing/plan sound right to you?
21:47:22 <ryanlerch> stickster: yes!
21:47:50 <ryanlerch> sorry! was here, just missed that message :)
21:47:50 <jflory7> Awesome!
21:47:51 <stickster> #agreed Publish DNF update article alongside F23 announcement, and pin the announcement at top for a few days (All The Hits)
21:48:11 <jflory7> If you want I get do a quick summary on the OpenVPN article.
21:48:16 <bee2502> Hi, Could you give me a quick overview of what topics can we write an article on for magazine ?
21:48:31 <jzb> bee2502: I think there will be an open floor
21:48:45 <stickster> jflory7: keekri: Why don't you guys agree to do editing volley on DNF -- keekri could check it on Sunday/Monday when jflory7 is done
21:48:49 <stickster> sound good?
21:48:56 <jflory7> Sounds great to me!
21:49:05 <ryanlerch> hey bee2502! if you want to jump into #fedora-mktg after this meeting, we can all help you out!
21:49:13 <ryanlerch> same for you too keekri! :)
21:49:14 <keekri> stickster: Great! I'll do my best!
21:49:19 <stickster> #action jflory7 keekri will collaborate on editing DNF article by no later than Monday night, ready for Tuesday publishing with announcement
21:49:23 <stickster> Thanks keekri!
21:49:36 <jflory7> keekri++
21:49:39 <keekri> Sure thing! :D
21:49:45 <bee2502> Sure.
21:49:49 <stickster> jflory7: Let's come back to OpenVPN -- I think next week will have plenty going on, we've time :-)
21:49:57 <stickster> #topic communityblog.fp.o
21:50:11 * stickster notes, 10 minutes left on clock :-)
21:50:17 <jflory7> Yeah, basically, that. Didn't get done by today but it's technically a week ahead plus next week will be busy
21:50:24 <stickster> ha!
21:50:27 <keekri> jzb : What's an open floor ?
21:50:32 <jflory7> Not much else to say on it, hahah!
21:50:34 <jflory7> Anyways--
21:50:41 <stickster> <-- knows NOTHING about missing his own deadlines. NOTHING I TELL YOU
21:50:45 <jzb> keekri: a time to ask questions not on the agenda
21:50:52 <jflory7> ;)
21:50:58 <keekri> oh, got it!
21:51:16 <ryanlerch> so comminityblog is *liveish*
21:51:17 <stickster> So -- the commblog is basically on the verge of going public i.e. soft launch
21:51:27 <jflory7> Awesome.
21:51:31 <stickster> yeah, that. I added an article for you about an hour ago, by the way ryanlerch  :-)
21:51:32 <ryanlerch> http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/
21:51:42 <jflory7> So, I guess is our question about whether we want to launch pre- or post-Fedora release?
21:51:52 <ryanlerch> still think we have issues with the permalinks though
21:52:04 <stickster> Someone discussed where we discuss it, and I think jzb brought up a great point of keeping it on marketing@ list where we are gaining momentum/gravity
21:52:13 <ryanlerch> that is links like this http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=6 rather than the postname
21:52:15 <jflory7> Right. So we will need croberts to look at that?
21:52:19 <keekri> Is there agenda that we can access?
21:52:23 <ryanlerch> need to see if i can get hold of him today
21:52:27 <stickster> ryanlerch: Yeah, that should be simple enough to fix -- I think I know how to do it
21:52:28 <jflory7> keekri: See this. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Editorial_meetings
21:52:38 <keekri> Got it!
21:52:45 <ryanlerch> stickster: i turend it on in the admin interface, but it made posts 404
21:52:59 <ryanlerch> is there something on the serverside we need to do to fix it?
21:53:03 <jflory7> bee2502: ^^^ same for you too.
21:53:10 <stickster> ryanlerch: Right, you also I believe need to have something flipped in .htaccess to allow mod_rewrite to do its thing
21:53:19 <ryanlerch> stickster: ah! :)
21:53:52 <stickster> CHECK OUT THE BIG BRAIN ON PAUL! Like a broken clock, right twice a day usually :-)
21:54:22 <jflory7> Heheh :)
21:54:37 <ryanlerch> jflory7: to anwer your question of *when* -- IMHO as soon as possible
21:54:43 <ryanlerch> so we can get the content flowing
21:55:10 <ryanlerch> i expect it to be a ramp up effect
21:55:12 <keekri> IMHO ?
21:55:20 <ryanlerch> in my honest opinion
21:55:22 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Did we want to wait for post-F23 for SSL to work properly for the site?
21:55:27 <ryanlerch> keekri: ^ :)
21:55:35 <stickster> ryanlerch: I just tried and wasn't able to SSH in, so we will need croberts to fix this
21:55:42 <jflory7> Or maybe look at appealing the freeze?
21:55:46 <keekri> oh. *newbie problems :(*
21:55:56 <ryanlerch> stickster: i think puiterwijk has access to it too
21:56:25 <puiterwijk> To what do I have access?
21:56:43 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i dont think magazine has https either tbh
21:56:48 <jflory7> puiterwijk: communityblog.fp.o
21:56:50 <stickster> Uh-oh, we woke the android!
21:56:54 <puiterwijk> Oh commblog. Yes I do have access
21:56:58 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Yeah, it doesn't.
21:56:58 <puiterwijk> One second
21:57:04 <ryanlerch> and i only had to say his name once
21:57:15 <jflory7> So on that note probably something we could add after launch?
21:57:15 <ryanlerch> not the mythical 3 times
21:57:22 <stickster> jflory7: I would think so
21:57:30 <jflory7> Sounds good to me.
21:57:31 <puiterwijk> jflory7: note that fedora magazine is different
21:57:36 <stickster> #info https == not critical pre-F23
21:57:49 <puiterwijk> For magazine it's not needed because that's a separate domain.
21:57:55 <puiterwijk> Because comblog is under fedoraproject.org, you need https
21:58:00 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk ah
21:58:04 <jflory7> Ooh.
21:58:20 <puiterwijk> The problem is taht we have HSTS for *.fedoraproject.org, requiring users' browsers to use HTTPS
21:58:31 <stickster> We are running out of time, I guess I just wanted to establish what, if anything, is needed from folks here, and that people are OK with discussing commblog on marketing@ list -- I surely am, let's keep things together where we have lots of eyeballs
21:58:57 <puiterwijk> If you need any help or anything done for it, please ping me
21:59:11 <ryanlerch> okies -- to #fedora-mktg :)
21:59:14 <jzb> stickster: +1
21:59:25 <jzb> would I be able to slip in a pitch, briefly?
21:59:28 <stickster> jzb: Thanks for the suggestion, gravity++
21:59:30 <stickster> jzb: GO!
21:59:37 <jflory7> stickster: I think it would probably make the most sense with regards to the Magazine also being a marketing thing
21:59:58 <jzb> short version: Would like to write up a version of my "Marketing is not a spectator sport" talk for Magazine to encourage people to promote F23
22:00:02 <stickster> #agreed keep commblog discussions (material, etc.) on marketing@ with FMag for now, we can help
22:00:02 <jzb> to run Monday
22:00:11 <jzb> (from Flock, sorry)
22:00:15 <jflory7> jzb++
22:00:15 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for jzb changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:00:22 <jflory7> I thought that was an *awesome* talk
22:00:28 <stickster> I liked it too
22:00:29 <jzb> jflory7: thanks!
22:00:41 <stickster> (that was in my "Irish Spring" accent"
22:00:42 <stickster> )
22:01:00 <jflory7> :)
22:01:08 <jzb> any objections?
22:01:23 <jflory7> I think it was an excellent talk that would have good publication value
22:02:01 <ryanlerch> +1 from me!
22:02:06 <stickster> I think this is a talk that has enough appeal outside core community (here's something you can do for open source) that it makes sense to me too +1
22:02:24 <stickster> It's not quite as esoteric as e.g. test days, or WG minutes
22:02:25 <jzb> OK, will have it in shortly
22:02:29 <jzb> right
22:02:36 <jzb> everybody can play
22:02:46 <jzb> thanks all
22:02:49 <stickster> #agreed marketing post from jzb is good to go
22:03:00 <stickster> #action jzb get draft in for a Monday publication pre-F23
22:03:41 <stickster> jzb: I'm going to be out of touch this weekend, so might not be able to edit. However, I also think you're one of those experienced folks who can Just Do It.
22:03:48 <jzb> stickster: :-)
22:04:02 <jzb> stickster: I never object to a second pair of eyes, but I am also OK working without a net.
22:04:06 * stickster notes for the onlookers, jzb has a long CV of journalism/writing
22:04:11 <stickster> go4it!
22:04:18 <stickster> And with that, I need to run, friends
22:04:28 <jzb> stickster: thanks for running the meets
22:04:33 * jzb also prepares to run
22:04:34 <stickster> Does someone want to take over an open floor, or just move to #fedora-mktg?
22:04:36 <jzb> well, walk
22:04:37 <ryanlerch> jzb: happy to do a featured image for this too, if you have any ideas
22:04:47 <keekri> stickster: jzb: Bye guys!
22:04:48 <jflory7> I know we're tight on time, but I also wanted to ask for thoughts about the Community Blog article and whether it should be any longer.
22:04:49 <jzb> ryanlerch: I'll try to think of something
22:04:57 <stickster> ryanlerch: A shot of a crowd at a World Series game :-)
22:04:59 <stickster> timely!
22:05:01 <jzb> ryanlerch: visual things ... I'm not so good at.
22:05:26 <ryanlerch> jzb: if i'm not online, just open a ticket in the design team queue and assign to me :)
22:05:41 <jzb> ryanlerch: ack
22:05:42 <ryanlerch> with ideas :)
22:05:53 <jzb> damn
22:06:02 <ryanlerch> otherwise you might just get a kangaroo or something
22:06:10 <stickster> haha
22:06:20 <stickster> ryanlerch: a kangaroo PLAYING BASEBALL
22:06:44 <ryanlerch> keekri: bee2502: i live in Australia, hence the kangaroo joke :)
22:06:54 <stickster> OK, on to #fedora-mktg if you have further questions/input! Thanks for coming, everyone!
22:06:57 <stickster> #endmeeting