17:11:51 <dgilmore> #startmeeting releng-demo
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17:11:59 <dgilmore> http://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/acarter-fedora-docker-atomic-tooling/wiki/demo-videos
17:12:14 <dgilmore> 17:02  * rdieter lurking watching @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO-_WEVYXvo
17:13:44 <threebean> rtnpro: for later, I think a better name than "family" would be "variant"?
17:14:33 <dustymabe> what is the strategy for installing openshift origin in fedora? ansible?
17:14:47 <threebean> rtnpro: looks slick :)
17:15:01 <rtnpro> threebean, agreed!
17:15:22 <bowlofeggs> what is the role of autocloud in the larger plan being discussed here? just curious, and I'm new at this ☺
17:15:23 <rtnpro> threebean, creating an issue for it
17:15:36 <maxamillion> dustymabe: the official OpenShift Ansible installer
17:16:24 <dustymabe> maxamillion: is it going to run openshift in containers? or natively on the machine?
17:16:54 <maxamillion> dustymabe: natively on the machine, I plan to also enable openshift in containers but that's still unstable upstream to the best of my knowledge
17:16:57 <maxamillion> dustymabe: https://github.com/openshift/openshift-ansible/blob/master/README_origin.md
17:17:14 <threebean> bowlofeggs: in this diagram -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic#Schematic
17:17:20 <threebean> bowlofeggs: it is the orange box.
17:17:41 <dustymabe> rtnpro: any chance we could have a field that links to the image that was tested (the link from koji)
17:17:44 <bowlofeggs> oh cool, thanks!
17:17:55 <dustymabe> maxamillion: ok
17:18:16 <bowlofeggs> will fedora also be signing docker manifests with F24?
17:18:17 <dustymabe> once we get it running in containers I think it would be interesting to use atomicapp to run openshift
17:18:20 <dgilmore> dustymabe: the links shoudl be to the compose not koji
17:18:45 <dgilmore> dustymabe: we need to think about thinsg not as koji tasks but as composes
17:18:49 <rtnpro> bowlofeggs, autocloud is an application to test Fedora cloud images, using tunir, and a dashboard to visualize the test results
17:19:09 <bowlofeggs> rtnpro: yeah it looks cool - thanks for sharing!
17:19:24 <dustymabe> dgilmore: but there could be multiple images output of a compose right?
17:19:33 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: afaik docker signing is all done by docker
17:19:41 <dgilmore> dustymabe: yes
17:19:57 <dgilmore> but the link should be the compose location not teh koji location
17:20:01 <rtnpro> dustymabe, isn't link to the koji build enough (the 1st column)?
17:20:09 <maxamillion> dustymabe: that's on the roadmap but I'm unsure if it will land before Fedora 24 so I don't want to include it in the scope of the current changes
17:20:17 <dgilmore> rtnpro: we should not provide koji links
17:20:33 <dustymabe> dgilmore: then how do we say exactly what image we tested
17:20:47 <bowlofeggs> dgilmore: do you mean docker the company, dockerhub, or the docker registry instance that fedora will be using with pulp?
17:21:06 <maxamillion> dgilmore: that's the base images on docker hub
17:21:12 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: I am unaware of any signing that we can do
17:21:15 <maxamillion> bowlofeggs: does pulp support it?
17:21:17 <maxamillion> :)
17:21:19 <rtnpro> dgilmore, ok, could you file an issue for it at https://github.com/kushaldas/autocloud?
17:21:28 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: afaik all teh signing happens by docker in the dockerhub
17:21:29 <maxamillion> bowlofeggs: because if pulp supports it, I'd love to enable it
17:21:39 <bowlofeggs> jgreguske: where can i get a copy of this "kojay" that you are using? is it superior to koji? ☺
17:21:51 <maxamillion> :D
17:21:57 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: its koji
17:22:23 <bowlofeggs> dgilmore: the Docker manifest has a "signatures" section - i believe fedora *could* insert their own signatures there
17:22:37 <bowlofeggs> maxamillion: yes, pulp will "support" it, but only in that it won't interfere
17:22:38 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: if we can it is news to me and not scoped
17:23:12 <bowlofeggs> maxamillion: so if you give pulp a manifest that is signed, it will be validly signed when docker clients pull it from pulp/crane
17:23:55 <bowlofeggs> dgilmore, maxamillion: perhaps we could schedule a time to talk about this in more detail
17:23:58 <jgreguske> bowlofeggs: :)
17:24:00 <maxamillion> bowlofeggs: oh ok, so it's not something pulp provides?
17:24:03 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: we should file an issue in taiga to have it be visable for us to look at
17:24:27 <bowlofeggs> maxamillion: no pulp doesn't provide it, but it certainly will work with manifests that are already signed
17:24:30 <maxamillion> bowlofeggs: yeah, I think we should ... it's definitely something I would like to have but I thought it was something pulp needed to provide and that it just didn't yet
17:25:14 <lmacken> hm, the youtube is showing jay as opposed to ralph's screen right now
17:25:27 <bowlofeggs> another thing worth noting is that docker is changing the manifest format (again!) and this may impact how the signatures will work. they have not decided on the format yet to my knowledge
17:25:42 <maxamillion> acarter1: can we control who's in focus on the youtube stream? it's showing Jay fullscreen
17:25:47 <bowlofeggs> stupid youtube
17:25:51 <dgilmore> bowlofeggs: of course they are
17:25:55 <bowlofeggs> hahaha
17:26:00 <bowlofeggs> it's my world of pain
17:26:08 <jgreguske> bowlofeggs: https://github.com/Zyzyx/koji/tree/signed
17:26:15 <jgreguske> bowlofeggs: the work so far
17:26:18 <mclong> please fix
17:26:23 <mclong> thanks
17:26:41 <lmacken> he's sharing it, but jay is zoomed in
17:26:54 <bowlofeggs> much zoom
17:26:58 <bowlofeggs> wow
17:27:10 <mclong> cant see it
17:27:17 <lmacken> acarter1: maybe try clicking on threebean's thumbnail?
17:27:18 <threebean> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ProductDefinitionCenter
17:27:25 <threebean> https://pdc.fedorainfracloud.org/
17:27:43 <lmacken> acarter1: there you go
17:27:46 <bowlofeggs> jay, youtube has chosen YOU
17:27:51 <lmacken> threebean: yep
17:27:52 <mclong> ys good to go
17:28:06 <bowlofeggs> yeah i can see
17:30:52 <bowlofeggs> we've got the time
17:31:02 <maxamillion> audit tools! \o/
17:33:37 <maxamillion> THIS IS AWESOME
17:33:58 <threebean> https://github.com/fedora-infra/pdc-updater/
17:33:58 <maxamillion> I *might* be the only one *this* excited about PDC and the audit/retry tooling
17:34:04 <threebean> :D
17:34:17 <bowlofeggs> ralph: that beard is legit
17:34:21 <maxamillion> threebean: you're basically my new hero
17:34:48 <threebean> oh man.. I forgot to show off the test suite.  (there is a test suite...)
17:35:07 <dgilmore> let me rejoin
17:35:12 <bowlofeggs> threebean: your beard has a test suite‽
17:35:34 <acarter1> dgilmore, adam is going to do his last demo while you rejoin
17:35:36 <jgreguske> acarter1: you should arbitrarily share peoples' screen during the meeting and creep on them
17:35:40 <threebean> bowlofeggs:  o-o  ... not yet.
17:35:45 <bowlofeggs> hehe
17:37:44 <acarter1> jgreguske, I'm sure everyone is just working on their Taiga cards
17:38:18 <mikedep333> FYI, as a probable new contributor, the guide looks great
17:38:20 <dgilmore> did maxamillion lock up?
17:38:24 <dgilmore> or me?
17:38:26 <maxamillion> dgilmore: nope, you
17:38:57 <acarter1> dgilmore, :<
17:39:06 * lmacken hopes for chipmunk mode
17:39:18 <maxamillion> lmacken: YESSSSS
17:39:23 <acarter1> dgilmore, you joining back?
17:39:32 <maxamillion> lmacken: live, on youtube, recorded for the world to preserve
17:39:37 <mikedep333> Google Hangouts had better have a chipmunk voice plugin.
17:39:40 <maxamillion> LET'S DO THIS
17:39:41 <lmacken> maxamillion: priceless
17:39:59 <maxamillion> awwww
17:40:02 <maxamillion> womp womp
17:40:11 <maxamillion> err... I mean, yey! :D
17:40:32 <mclong> lol
17:40:49 <maxamillion> I got hidden :(
17:40:58 <maxamillion> dgilmore: think we lost you
17:41:27 <dgilmore> maxamillion: I think so
17:41:42 <dgilmore> firefox is not responsive
17:42:37 <acarter1> dgilmore, has that happened to you before?
17:42:41 <mclong> Good stuff
17:42:51 <acarter1> thanks mclong!
17:43:11 <acarter1> dgilmore, maybe it's because you disabled the chipmunk plugin?
17:43:22 <acarter1> dgilmore, your public is demanding it
17:43:34 <dgilmore> acarter1: no I think it is because my desktop is dual screen
17:44:09 <dgilmore> I tried rejoining from my laptop but it says noone is in the call
17:44:14 <acarter1> dgilmore, I might grab some time with you tomorrow or Thursday to try to record a quick run through?
17:44:16 <acarter1> dgilmore, we gave up
17:44:21 <dgilmore> :(
17:44:26 <acarter1> 3 strikes and you're out
17:44:49 <dgilmore> acarter1: that was two strikes
17:45:05 <acarter1> dgilmore, 3 -- adam stepped in after the first one
17:45:22 <dgilmore> acarter1: that was the first, then I had one more after that
17:45:26 <dgilmore> then you gave up
17:47:09 <dgilmore> #endmeeting