14:01:09 #startmeeting Docs Team 14:01:09 Meeting started Mon Apr 4 14:01:09 2016 UTC. The chair is linuxmodder. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:09 The meeting name has been set to 'docs_team' 14:01:29 hello 14:01:34 .fas jibecfed 14:01:35 jibecfed: jibecfedora 'Jean-Baptiste' - jibecfed 'Jean-Baptiste Holcroft' 14:01:36 #topic Docs Team 14:01:46 .fas linuxmodder 14:01:46 linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' 14:01:49 .fas bex 14:01:49 bexelbie: sfarr01 'Steven Farr' - lonelyibex 'fungo' - neebex 'Thierry Harribey' - ibex77 'Richard Albelda' - moko 'moko lee' - bexhet '' - genbex 'P Karthikeyan' - rsandu 'Răzvan Sandu' - vibexie 'vibe xie' - efjiwmos 'takagiatuko' (1 more message) 14:01:56 .hello bex 14:01:56 hehe 14:01:56 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 14:02:03 randomuser willbe a few minutes delayed 14:02:12 * grundblom here 14:02:12 * zoglesby 14:02:18 any new writers or joins wanna intro themselves in the interim 14:02:46 bexelbie, got email much ? 14:03:07 linuxmodder, ? 14:03:40 #topic Announcements 14:05:20 #topic Follow up on last week's action items 14:05:58 I wasn't here last week, did we have any action items? Apart from "write some release notes"? 14:06:06 anyone have anything from last week they'd like to review or re-action 14:06:21 pbokoc, not really that I can remember 14:06:40 ok, well 14:06:47 #action write some release notes :) 14:07:14 we do need to poke at the spins folks tho for talking points and release notes 14:07:21 kirsti here sort of (and late) 14:07:45 coomops has been trying to get action from them for blog release announces too 14:07:51 kirsti, welcome 14:08:04 #cahir pbokoc 14:08:11 #chair pbokoc 14:08:12 Current chairs: linuxmodder pbokoc 14:08:27 #chair randomuser 14:08:27 Current chairs: linuxmodder pbokoc randomuser 14:08:33 #chair zoglesby 14:08:33 Current chairs: linuxmodder pbokoc randomuser zoglesby 14:08:41 randomuser, you free yet 14:09:11 #topic Release Notes Beats 14:09:41 on that note what do we want to set for next weeks goal since last week was mostly getting the ball rolling 14:10:01 anyone have beats ideas already in the oven 14:10:51 yeah actually 14:10:59 #action linuxmodder to work on a security update for beats 14:11:05 does anyone here use KDE? I've got a beat for you :) 14:11:22 not this guy :) 14:11:35 only gnome pbokoc 14:11:48 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1322084 - this showed up on the relnotes mailing list because the assignee set the relnotes flag in bugzilla 14:11:49 cinn and xfce here 14:12:01 * linuxmodder looks 14:12:03 I think I derped the development beat 14:12:06 I'd take it but I never used KDE so I don't really know what it's about 14:12:41 grundblom, derped? It looks pretty good to me 14:13:19 (assuming you're talking about Development Tools) 14:13:42 not really sure how that fits as a rn bug tho 14:14:26 linuxmodder, well, it's a change in behavior, so we should write a sentence or two about it - in the Desktop section probably 14:14:48 ok can see that 14:15:23 I felt self conscious because I thought I stepped on Banden who is listed for the Devel beat 14:16:04 grundblom, as long as we all know what's up and its collaborative its generally okay :) 14:16:34 most of us don't bite or get ego centric :) 14:16:50 yeah, it's a collaboration. Plus there's an asterisk next to his name, which means he didn't "claim" it 14:18:08 any other beats in the works or needing love? 14:18:43 * randomuser pops in 14:18:58 linuxmodder, all of them :)) at the very least we want to cover all Changes as listed on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/ChangeSet 14:19:02 randomuser, welcoem 14:19:10 on the beats atm 14:19:24 pbokoc, I know that 14:19:42 been concerning myself with the guides mostly 14:19:57 some are woefully outdated 14:20:06 yeah, most are :/ 14:20:18 f18 for most :( 14:20:47 randomuser, wanna talk the helm back? 14:21:00 no, you're doing fine, carry on :) 14:21:31 any other offers to help or requests for help on beats or onward ? 14:22:22 well then onward 14:22:25 #topic Publican/Publishing 14:22:46 someone else feel free to take that one publican is still new turf for me 14:22:52 Oh, I have a thing at this point 14:23:00 all yours 14:23:32 As I mentioned in a previous meeting, we should have a FAD. 14:23:46 and pick a tool already 14:23:49 fad or vfad ? 14:24:01 vfad honestly seems more fitting 14:24:18 fad? fedora account..? 14:24:25 Fedora Activity Day 14:24:29 grundblom, no more like a powwow 14:24:36 there's a link around somewhere... 14:24:37 FAD or vFAD I think we should give the ProjectAtomic folks a bit more time to finish their stuff so we can evaluate it 14:24:44 melding of the minds 14:24:55 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Documentation_2016 14:25:02 but my preference would be for a FAD with v option as I think the focus will be better 14:25:34 bexelbie, so brick and mortar with a remote link? 14:25:43 linuxmodder, that would be my thought 14:25:49 oh, there's even a date already? 14:25:58 I wasn't aware of dates/people yet 14:26:03 cool for progress 14:26:06 yup 14:26:08 I could easily get down with that 14:26:11 so we need to fill in some info 14:26:22 poll tim e? 14:26:31 oh neat, like a google hang out or somethign and we bang out some documentation? 14:26:47 grundblom, jitsi man go open source option :) 14:26:51 in this case, we're going to focus on on collaborative tools 14:27:11 grundblom, it's not really about writing documentation, it should be about figuring out strategy more like 14:27:19 check the wiki page :) 14:27:29 the roadmap and sop mostly grundblom 14:27:33 I hope this will be focussed on publishing/strategy and actually include some code writing if possible 14:27:42 * pbokoc disappears for 5 minutes 14:28:12 bexelbie: publishing will be a part of it, but I think the bigger issues is the state of docs 14:28:22 zoglesby, agreed 14:28:28 so a day long conference about the roadmap - strategy of the docs group? 14:28:32 totally agree on docs state 14:28:35 I know there is a lot of question around format/searchability, etc. 14:28:42 many are almost too outdated to be relevant 14:28:55 we should put a Flock report talk in, imho 14:29:18 they are talking flock 2016 next door in qadevel mtg 14:29:19 I haven't submitted things when the FAD discussion started -- but since the deadline is Friday we should decide if we need a report talk, discussion or work group, or all three 14:29:29 sorry, phone call 14:29:48 bexelbie, I'm in, can set aside time to work with you on that. 14:29:56 so take the poll for availability to the list? 14:30:15 randomuser, let's try to talk later today? I have a meeting in the next clock hour and am otherwise free 14:30:20 bexelbie: I am not sure what we could talk about until we figure out what we are doing, a placeholder talk (with a vauge topic maybe?) 14:30:29 zoglesby, exactly 14:30:33 we need to get the time on the books 14:30:37 bexelbie, I'll have this up, ping 14:30:51 as without an idea it will happen some may choose not to push to attend 14:30:59 randomuser, will do 14:31:01 If you think about it, the rest of Fedora has changed a lot in the last two years, we are still doing (or not doing) the same things 14:31:29 for the FAD, those that want to attend (if you're confident you can provide a significant contribution) and need funding, fill in the info soon 14:31:33 we are cahnging but hardly at same rate 14:31:58 I want to get the prep sorted for that soon before travel expenses go up because of short notice 14:32:37 #action randomuser to send mail about FAD 14:33:54 and fwiw, I'm with zoglesby, we've been gleefully left behind 14:34:17 time to kick it in high gear for sure 14:35:00 need to go to another meeting 14:35:27 laters thanks for hanging out 14:35:30 o/ 14:36:17 gotta go, take care 14:36:20 seeing as we have segway'd here anyways 14:36:22 #topic Guide Status 14:37:09 https://www.austinfilm.org/image/premieres--special-events/Everything-Is-Terrible.jpg 14:37:10 I am trying to iron out an updated security and burnign isos guide 14:38:23 randomuser, i would be interested in helping at the Docs Fad but that is too close to finals 14:39:05 Southern_Gentlem, I'm sure something will come out of it for you to help with :) 14:39:08 for myself I don't have time for anything, I'll be happy if I manage to fix that bug we had with the builtin help in Anaconda in F23 14:40:17 citation? 14:40:44 what, for the bug? 14:40:55 yeah, for the bug! 14:41:26 hang on, firefox ate my history :) 14:41:45 heh 14:42:25 randomuser, this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1277541 14:42:46 ohhhh that one 14:42:46 I'm gonna have to change the help content's structure 14:43:03 randomuser, meeting is all yours I gotta bounce 14:43:39 before beta, hopefully, so the installer team doesn't get showered with bug reports about my problem 14:43:57 * linuxmodder & 14:44:01 o/ 14:44:20 shaunm hangs around, you can probably get more help from him if needed 14:44:26 yeah, I know 14:46:19 other than that the install guide should be in a publishable state even if we only change entities. Not perfect, but publishable 14:47:09 The system admin's guide should be good too 14:47:12 I'll probably do a refresher on the multiboot guide, but may not have time for another 14:47:13 and anything else - hell if I know 14:49:47 well, that's guides then :) 14:49:53 #topic Open Floor 14:53:27 nothing for open floor, I take it? 14:54:14 linuxmodder++ 14:54:14 randomuser: Karma for corey84 changed to 16 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:54:22 thanks for running the meeting 14:54:40 and thanks to everyone for coming, see you around 14:54:44 #endmeeting