20:01:11 <giannisk> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-04-13
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20:01:21 <giannisk> #meetingname emea ambassadors
20:01:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
20:01:26 <giannisk> #topic Roll Call
20:01:41 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:01:41 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
20:01:42 <giannisk> Let's see how many people are around.
20:01:46 <giannisk> Use .fas yourusername
20:01:49 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:01:49 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:01:53 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:01:54 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian@brainpress.org>
20:02:03 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:02:03 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:03:28 <giannisk> Hello and welcome to yet another regular meeting for the EMEA region.
20:03:37 <giannisk> Let's wait a few more minutes for others to show up as well.
20:03:54 <giannisk> #topic Roll Call
20:04:09 <giannisk> #chair sesivany
20:04:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: giannisk sesivany
20:04:55 * giannisk notes freenode is having a hard time.
20:04:56 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
20:04:56 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
20:05:45 * jonatoni Hi all :)
20:06:00 * giannisk waves at jonatoni
20:06:07 <giannisk> #topic Announcements
20:06:24 <giannisk> I don't have anything in particular to announce.
20:06:54 <giannisk> We recently have made a partnership with Unixstickers, and now they have made Fedora stickers available on their website.
20:07:27 <giannisk> #info Fedora stickers on Unixstickers
20:07:32 <giannisk> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/stickers-sale-unixstickers/
20:07:43 <giannisk> I'm not sure whether they ship to Europe though.
20:07:46 <giannisk> Anyways.
20:07:50 <nmilosev> These ones?
20:07:51 <nmilosev> https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/fedora
20:08:15 <giannisk> nmilosev: yeap
20:08:53 <nmilosev> They look quite nice, these are the "metal" ones like the old Intel ones if I remember correctly
20:09:02 <giannisk> Oh, I've notice they do worldwide shipping.
20:09:18 <giannisk> s/notice/noticed
20:09:33 <giannisk> Okay, any other announcements?
20:09:39 <giannisk> Where's jflory7? :P
20:09:44 <jonatoni> !
20:09:52 <jflory7> o/
20:10:00 <giannisk> jonatoni first, then jflory7
20:10:08 <jonatoni> Time to test Fedora 24
20:10:10 <jonatoni> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/time-test-fedora-24-internationalization/
20:10:30 <jonatoni> Eof :)
20:10:44 <giannisk> #info Time to test F24 i18n
20:10:48 <giannisk> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/time-test-fedora-24-internationalization/
20:10:53 <giannisk> jonatoni: thanks :)
20:10:57 <giannisk> jflory7: go ahead!
20:11:35 <jflory7> #info Fedora 24 Supplementary Wallpapers are now open for voting! Fedora contributors that are a member of CLA+1 can vote for 16 wallpapers to be included in the F24 supplementary wallpapers. You can also earn a snazzy new badge for participating in the voting process!
20:11:37 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-24-wallpapers-vote-now/
20:12:31 <jflory7> #info There was recently a Fedora + Mozilla Activity Day in Kosovo on the 26th and 27th of March. elioqoshi published an event report about the Activity Day on the Community Blog. Make sure to give it a read!
20:12:33 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mozilla-activity-days-in-prishtina-kosovo/
20:13:29 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Server Working Group has a seat open in the working group as a member has stepped down. If you have wanted to get involved with the Fedora Server Working Group, there has never been a better time. Get more information about the nomination process on the Community Blog.
20:13:30 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nominations-fedora-server-working-group/
20:13:33 <ardian> I think zodbot is not capturing jflory7
20:13:54 <linuxmodder> no meeting is  active  doesn't surprise me
20:14:09 <jflory7> Uh-oh, did zodbot have a net split?
20:14:40 <jflory7> Oh, no, it is being captured. Just checked #fedora-fedmsg
20:15:11 <giannisk> jflory7: zodbot did not appear to have one
20:15:41 <jflory7> #info tests fedmsg
20:15:45 <jflory7> #undo
20:16:00 <ardian> giannisk: topic of the channel has changed
20:16:07 <jflory7> Hmmm, I don't know. I was pinged in #fedora-fedmsg for that but #undo didn't work
20:16:34 <jflory7> I have one more announcement to fit in, maybe try that and see what happens
20:16:45 * giannisk sighs, then mumbles "not again"
20:16:49 <giannisk> #info test
20:16:51 <giannisk> #undo
20:16:51 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by giannisk at 20:16:49 : test
20:17:03 <giannisk> jflory7: go on :)
20:17:31 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Docs Team is looking for help in writing the F24 Release Notes. If writing docs is your thing and you want to help write them for Fedora 24, learn more about how you can get involved!
20:17:33 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-24-release-notes/
20:17:44 <jflory7> eof
20:17:57 <giannisk> jflory7: thanks :)
20:18:03 <giannisk> jflory7++
20:18:04 <jflory7> Sure thing!
20:18:05 <FedoraUser> .hello fedorauser
20:18:07 <zodbot> FedoraUser: fedorauser 'Medic Momcilo' <medicmomcilo@gmail.com>
20:18:07 <giannisk> jonatoni++
20:18:11 <giannisk> nmilosev++
20:18:16 * FedoraUser is sorry for being late
20:18:18 <giannisk> Any other announcements for today?
20:18:23 * giannisk waves at FedoraUser
20:19:03 <giannisk> If not, we will then move on.
20:19:52 <giannisk> #topic Requests
20:20:00 * giannisk is checking the emea trac.
20:20:10 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:20:43 <giannisk> I don't see any budget request that needs to be reviewed.
20:21:00 <giannisk> We will discuss #568 on next topic.
20:21:16 <giannisk> Any questions so far? Anything to add?
20:22:08 <giannisk> Alright, moving on.
20:22:41 <giannisk> #topic Ambassadors schedule
20:22:59 <giannisk> #info Ticket #568 - Choose a Storyteller Delegate
20:23:02 <GITNE> .info gitne
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20:23:18 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/568
20:23:22 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:23:22 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:23:30 <GITNE> .fas gitne
20:23:31 <zodbot> GITNE: gitne '' <gitne@gmx.de>
20:23:50 <giannisk> We need to appoint a storyteller delegate for the EMEA region, based on what is described in Budget.next
20:23:56 <giannisk> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next
20:24:00 <giannisk> ^For more info.
20:24:00 * mitzie is on mobile
20:24:41 <giannisk> We have agreed that mitzie continues to serve as the treasurer and sesivany as the logistician.
20:25:24 <giannisk> Anyone interested for the storyteller role?
20:25:50 <giannisk> As per what is mentioned on the wiki page, "The Storytelling Delegate will be accountable for Regional Reports. They don't necessarily have to write all the original content, they just need to be accountable for ensuring content makes it out onto our channels."
20:26:39 <giannisk> No-one? :)
20:27:05 * FedoraUser is pondering how much time would this require... performing silent calculations in head :)
20:27:16 <sesivany> ask on mailing list, too
20:27:20 <giannisk> In any case, it would be more fair to take it to the mailing list, see if there are any other fellas willing to become a candidate for that position.
20:27:35 <jflory7> +1 for mailing list too
20:27:41 <giannisk> If we have more than one candidate, we're going to vote.
20:27:57 <giannisk> Everyone agrees to take it to the mailing list?
20:27:59 <giannisk> +1
20:28:05 <ardian> +1
20:28:10 <FedoraUser> +1
20:28:12 <jtoni1> +1
20:29:30 <nmilosev> +1
20:29:47 <giannisk> Five votes including mine.
20:30:22 <giannisk> #action giannisk to post on the ambassadors ML regarding the appointment of the Storytelling Delegate in EMEA
20:30:48 <giannisk> Thank you all.
20:31:02 <giannisk> Let's have a look at the ambassadors schedule, too.
20:31:16 * giannisk is searching for the link to the schedule.
20:31:39 <giannisk> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:32:20 <giannisk> During the last meeting we agreed to produce 1k F24 DVDS.
20:32:27 <giannisk> s/DVDS/DVDs
20:32:43 <giannisk> Any questions so far? Anything to add?
20:34:46 <giannisk> Alright, moving on.
20:34:56 <giannisk> #topic Events
20:35:24 <giannisk> Any events taking place in your country? Would you like to report back from any recent events?
20:35:28 <giannisk> Now is the time! :)
20:35:41 <sesivany> !
20:35:49 <giannisk> sesivany: go ahead!
20:36:00 <sesivany> I attended OSSWeekend in Bratislava, Slovakia.
20:36:14 <sesivany> bringing some Fedora swag, having a talk on appstream and xdg-app.
20:36:33 <sesivany> what really surprised me, positively, was number of laptops with Fedora.
20:36:49 <sesivany> and many of them had "Fedora Loves Python" sticker :)
20:37:11 <sesivany> churchyard did a great job at Pycon SK
20:37:21 <sesivany> speaking of Python...
20:37:51 <sesivany> churchyard cannot go to EuroPython, some of his teammates from Red Hat could come instead.
20:38:13 <sesivany> but if we have an experienced Python developer among ambassadors, here is an opportunity.
20:38:20 <sesivany> eof
20:38:35 <giannisk> sesivany: thanks
20:38:41 <giannisk> seems you guys did a great job
20:38:47 <giannisk> sesivany++
20:39:45 <giannisk> Anyone experienced in Python and willing to represent Fedora in EuroPython?
20:40:18 <jonatoni> sesivany++
20:40:18 <zodbot> jonatoni: Karma for eischmann changed to 8 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:40:21 <sesivany> Generally any tip for a Python conference in EMEA is welcome.
20:40:30 <sesivany> we should go to as many as possible.
20:40:43 <ardian> when is the event ?
20:41:04 <ardian> 14-24 July
20:41:08 <sesivany> https://ep2016.europython.eu/
20:42:37 <ardian> so how will our presence be there ? sesivany
20:42:37 <giannisk> Anyways, if anyone is interested please do open-up a discussion on the ML.
20:42:53 <sesivany> ardian: we will share a booth with Red Hat.
20:43:07 <sesivany> because having a booth is pretty expensive.
20:43:32 <ardian> sesivany: I see, I will check, what type of visa I need for Spain.
20:43:35 <giannisk> ardian: speaking for EuroPython, sesivany said that Red Hatters will be there. But there's also the opportunity for Fedora ambassadors to be there.
20:43:43 <sesivany> because we need to pay tickets and it's for a week, we can't afford sending more than 2 ppl.
20:44:17 <nmilosev> sesivany: It's free for students, right?
20:44:24 <nmilosev> I mean the conference attendance
20:44:29 <sesivany> not free, but discounted.
20:44:51 <ardian> I am currently also working on a plan for campus ambassadors with some python workshops
20:45:03 <nmilosev> Oh I see now, 120EUR for students
20:45:08 <sesivany> €360 standard ticket, €120 student
20:45:32 <sesivany> so a Python developer and student is an ideal candidate :)
20:45:57 <ardian> so count me in, I will check again the visa system they have for Kosovo.
20:47:06 <giannisk> Anything else regarding Events?
20:47:39 <nmilosev> giannisk: Will this be discussed on the mailing list? (EuroPy)
20:47:57 <giannisk> nmilosev: if you fellas are interested, feel free to open up a discussion :)
20:48:41 <nmilosev> giannisk: Ok
20:49:02 <giannisk> Oh, this weekend we have FOSSCOMM in Greece, the largest foss-related conference in the country.
20:49:13 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fosscomm_2016
20:49:24 <giannisk> Me and mitzie will be there, as well as other Greek contributors.
20:50:00 <giannisk> Anything else regarding events?
20:50:26 <giannisk> Okay, on to the next topic.
20:50:34 <giannisk> #topic Action items from previous meetings
20:50:50 * giannisk looks for the link to the previous meeting minutes.
20:51:13 <giannisk> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-30/emea_ambassadors.2016-03-30-21.00.html
20:51:43 <giannisk> #info No action items left from the previous meeting
20:51:50 <giannisk> Any questions here? Anything to add?
20:52:44 <giannisk> Let's head to Open Floor.
20:52:49 <giannisk> #topic Open Floor
20:52:55 <giannisk> Everything else goes here. :)
20:53:17 <giannisk> Today we had a somewhat "quieter" meeting.
20:53:53 <nmilosev> Everyone tired I think
20:54:27 <giannisk> nmilosev: probably, including myself to be honest :)
20:54:49 <giannisk> If there isn't anything else to be discussed, I will be ending the meeting in three (3) minutes from now.
20:55:22 <jflory7> !
20:55:30 <giannisk> jflory7: go ahead!
20:55:46 <jflory7> Just a reminder that the Fedora Marketing meeting is about to begin in #fedora-meeting-1, if anyone wishes to attend!
20:55:50 <sesivany> !
20:56:36 <giannisk> jflory7: thanks
20:56:39 <giannisk> sesivany: yes please
20:56:46 <sesivany> FYI translation of the Fedora User Handbook to English is almost finished. We just need a native speaker to polish the language: https://github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
20:57:12 <jflory7> sesivany: I would be interested in helping... what is the deadline for the review?
20:57:39 <sesivany> jflory7: no deadline, the sooner the better
20:57:58 <sesivany> I'd like to have it printed by Flock, so that we can show some progress.
20:58:14 <jflory7> sesivany: Okay, good to know. This would actually be something that would be good to drop on the CommOps mailing list too.
20:58:21 <sesivany> of course once English is finished, everyone is welcome to translate it to their language.
20:58:34 <jflory7> #help Translation of the Fedora User Handbook to English is almost finished. We just need a native speaker to polish the language. https://github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
20:59:12 <sesivany> you would just have to typeset it. The guy who did the Czech version can do English one, too, but he doesn't feel like he can typeset other languages.
20:59:24 <sesivany> every language has different rules etc...
20:59:42 <jflory7> sesivany: I'm making a mental note to review it myself and see where I can help, but if you could, drop a line on the CommOps mailing list too with a help request.
20:59:46 <sesivany> so people who know LaTeX are welcome.
21:00:33 <sesivany> jflory7: I know that Matthew offered help a couple of months ago, too.
21:01:07 <jflory7> Let's see if we can get a little more exposure about this across the project. :) A Community Blog article would also be an excellent idea, to get some more eyes on this
21:01:41 * sesivany makes a note to write the article.
21:02:38 <nmilosev> I have a question if everyone else is eof
21:03:28 <jflory7> eof
21:03:48 <giannisk> sesivany and jflory7: thanks both
21:03:52 <giannisk> nmilosev: go ahead
21:06:12 <nmilosev> I will be invited (most likely) to a Microsoft conference here in Belgrade (1000+ developers) to hold a presentation about .NET stuff on Linux. It will be a great oportunity to promote Fedora and FOSS. The Fedora part I got covered, and I know what I will talk about. However, does anyone here have any talking points or prior presentations experience on trying to "sell" the idea of FOSS to someone who is only making
21:06:12 <nmilosev> proprietary software? It's a pretty hard topic
21:07:09 <nmilosev> I just have no idea on where to even start. I thought about talking about some great open source libraries for .net developers, but than comes the issue of licensing and selling OSS
21:07:21 <nmilosev> So any help would be greatly appreciated guys
21:07:40 <nmilosev> Feel free to drop any material at my fedora mail if you can
21:07:43 <nmilosev> eof
21:08:51 <FedoraUser> love the idea
21:09:08 <FedoraUser> trash that M$ party :)
21:09:56 <rsc> FedoraUser: I don't think the plan is to trash the Microsoft event, but he's looking for serious ways to present Fedora proper there...
21:10:25 <giannisk> nmilosev: many of the people here are afk, you will probably be more lucky If you post on the ML.
21:10:35 <giannisk> what rsc said :)
21:11:01 <FedoraUser> I was not serious, sorry if I came off that way...
21:11:26 <giannisk> FedoraUser: nah, I got the joke :)
21:11:39 <nmilosev> I will probably post to the list
21:11:45 <giannisk> nmilosev: please do
21:11:51 <nmilosev> Thanks anyway :)
21:12:11 <giannisk> Anything else for tonight? Else I will be ending the meeting in two (2) minutes.
21:12:41 <giannisk> Thanks everyone for attending!
21:12:52 <giannisk> See you again in two weeks time.
21:12:53 <FedoraUser> giannisk++
21:12:59 <FedoraUser> giannisk, thanks for chairing
21:13:13 <giannisk> FedoraUser: my pleasure :)
21:13:21 <FedoraUser> :)
21:14:55 <giannisk> #endmeeting