20:56:42 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Magazine editorial board meeting (2016-04-21)
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20:56:46 <jflory7> #meetingname magazine
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20:56:50 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
20:56:53 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:56:54 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
20:59:47 <ridgemat> .hello ridgemat
20:59:48 <zodbot> ridgemat: Sorry, but you don't exist
20:59:57 <croberts> .fas chrisroberts
20:59:57 <zodbot> croberts: chrisroberts 'Chris Roberts' <chris.roberts@croberts.org>
21:00:00 <ridgemat> Oh, great start, thanks bot :(
21:00:16 <ridgemat> .hello mattnix
21:00:18 <zodbot> ridgemat: mattnix 'Matt Harwood' <matt@mattharwood.com>
21:00:58 <jflory7> #chair ridgemat croberts
21:00:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: croberts jflory7 ridgemat
21:01:01 <jflory7> o/
21:02:48 <jflory7> We'll wait a few more minutes for some others to show up before getting started.
21:02:57 <jflory7> ryanlerch said he might be running a little bit late for the meeting today.
21:03:19 <jflory7> #info stickster is in a full-day meeting in the office and is unable to attend
21:05:32 <jflory7> Okay, let's get started.
21:05:39 <jflory7> #topic Last week in review
21:05:55 <jflory7> #info Total views this month (so far): 104,435
21:06:18 <jflory7> #info Total views this week (so far): 22,968
21:06:37 <jflory7> #info Total views last month: 185,199
21:06:51 <jflory7> #info Total views last week: 32,985
21:07:40 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:07:41 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:07:51 <jflory7> I feel like the 32-bit cloud images article was suppose to go out on Wednesday, but I wasn't fully caught up on what was happening with that one.
21:07:54 <jflory7> #chair ryanlerch
21:07:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: croberts jflory7 ridgemat ryanlerch
21:07:58 <ryanlerch> sorry i'm a bit late all!
21:07:59 <jflory7> Hiya, ryanlerch!
21:08:06 <ryanlerch> heya jflory7!
21:08:41 <ryanlerch> hey croberts ridgemat
21:08:43 <jflory7> I can't remember if you were here last week, but ridgemat is a new writer and is interested in helping write for the Magazine. :)
21:08:49 <ridgemat> ryanlerch: Hi there!
21:08:55 <ryanlerch> hiya ridgemat!
21:08:57 <MarkDude> \o
21:09:00 <jflory7> Let's switch over to Pending Review.
21:09:04 <jflory7> #topic Pending review
21:09:18 <jflory7> #info === "Recording a quick screencast on Fedora Workstation" ===
21:09:25 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12597&preview=true
21:09:46 <jflory7> ryanlerch: This is one of yours. Think it's about ready to ship?
21:09:51 <ridgemat> I'm getting a 404 there jflory7
21:10:04 <ryanlerch> jflory7: its ready on my end
21:10:16 <ryanlerch> other than a featured image which i am going to do today
21:10:17 <jflory7> ridgemat: you'll need to be logged in to the Magazine to be able to view it. Try going to the WordPress admin panel, logging in, then refresh that URL. :)
21:10:30 <ryanlerch> wouldnt mind an editorial pass over it though
21:10:32 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Awesome. Do you happen to know the status on the 32-bit cloud images article?
21:10:36 * ridgemat tries the obvious before asking in future, sorry ;)
21:10:42 <decause> .hello decause
21:10:43 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
21:10:43 * jflory7 is trying to imagine the next week's schedule
21:10:47 <jflory7> #chair decause
21:10:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: croberts decause jflory7 ridgemat ryanlerch
21:10:58 * decause catches up on backlog
21:11:02 <jflory7> ridgemat: No question is a stupid question. :) Far better to ask than to not!
21:11:19 <ryanlerch> jflory7 +1 :)
21:11:43 <ryanlerch> jflory7: no, not sure of the status on that one
21:11:49 <jflory7> Hmmmm...
21:12:05 <ryanlerch> it looks ready to go, just needs a bit of marking up IMHO
21:12:06 <jflory7> Okay, then let's do the safe bet and aim to publish the screencast article tomorrow
21:12:12 <ryanlerch> jzb: around?
21:12:14 <jflory7> Oh, did it have a featured image too?
21:12:18 <jflory7> Ah, it does
21:12:27 <jflory7> For Meetbot...
21:12:31 <jflory7> #info === "Retiring 32-bit Cloud Images" ===
21:12:35 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12606&preview=true
21:12:52 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i think that one can just go out whenever it is ready IMHO
21:12:53 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Do an editing pass on "Recording a quick screencast on Fedora Workstation" by end of day
21:13:44 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Ideally, I think the 32-bit article is better for tomorrow
21:13:53 <jflory7> I think it's been on the queue for longer and I know jzb was ready to see it go
21:14:05 <jflory7> I wasn't following on the status but I remember he said he felt good about the content
21:14:36 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah, sorry, i was talking about the 32-bit one
21:14:46 <jflory7> Looking at these articles, I'm thinking 32-bit Friday, screencast Wednesday.
21:14:48 * jflory7 nods
21:14:52 <ryanlerch> IMHO, it can go out whenever JZB is happy with it
21:15:02 <jflory7> I'm 95% sure jzb was ready to ship it
21:15:08 <jflory7> But I don't have a quotable place to find that
21:15:19 <jflory7> Definitely don't want to ship it unless he is definitely sure it is ready
21:15:31 <ryanlerch> stickster has the lock on it atm
21:15:35 <ryanlerch> the 32bit one
21:15:52 <jflory7> Yeah, saw that too
21:17:06 <jflory7> ryanlerch: What do you think about sending the 32-bit article tomorrow?
21:17:14 * jflory7 is stuck in the middle about where to go with that one
21:17:19 <ryanlerch> jflory7 +1
21:17:29 <jflory7> Okay then. Let's aim to ship it then.
21:17:39 <jflory7> Want to do a quick pass, ryanlerch?
21:17:45 <ryanlerch> jflory7: for sure!
21:17:59 <jflory7> Okay, cool, hopefully we can find out if stickster is holding that lock or if it's a lost tab.
21:18:03 <ryanlerch> can we leave it open if it is ready before tomorrow, i might just publish it
21:18:11 <ryanlerch> be good to get this one out
21:18:21 <jflory7> #action ryanlerch Do a quick editorial pass on "Retiring 32-bit Cloud Images" for Friday (tomorrow)
21:18:33 <jflory7> For the screencast article, this would be good to schedule for Wednesday
21:18:41 <jflory7> We have a timely article for Monday
21:18:45 <jflory7> Just switched it to pending review
21:18:55 <jflory7> #info === "Introducing the extra wallpaper for Fedora 24" ===
21:19:03 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12662&preview=1&_ppp=bf0abf2c1e
21:19:30 <jflory7> gnokii was going to add the wallpaper winners over the weekend
21:19:37 <jflory7> The results come out tomorrow, I think?
21:19:54 <jflory7> Guess this is actually more of a draft since it's in progress
21:20:19 <ryanlerch> okies!
21:20:36 <ryanlerch> i think this one would be goodto list the names and titles of all the images on it
21:20:56 * jflory7 nods
21:21:11 <jflory7> That would probably be good feedback for gnokii when he finishes this up over the weekend
21:21:21 <jflory7> I think I can take an immediate action item to edit what's already there.
21:21:41 <ryanlerch> rather than just a collage image like here:
21:21:43 <ryanlerch> https://fedoramagazine.org/introducing-the-extra-f23-wallpapers/
21:21:44 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Do a quick editing pass tonight over "Introducing the extra wallpaper for Fedora 24" with existing content
21:22:05 <ryanlerch> more like how it is presented here:
21:22:07 <ryanlerch> https://fedoramagazine.org/try-out-the-additional-wallpapers-for-fedora-23/
21:22:40 <jflory7> ryanlerch: That format would definitely be *super* cool for this one!
21:23:03 <croberts> anything easy to write about
21:23:09 <croberts> which has a long due date
21:23:24 <ridgemat> croberts: Like... Cockpit? ;)
21:23:29 <croberts> yep :)
21:24:00 <ryanlerch> croberts: yeah something from a sysadmin / devops point of view would be awesome
21:24:08 <croberts> like katello :)
21:24:14 <croberts> but too big for a magazine article
21:24:22 <croberts> more a community post to be honest
21:24:26 <croberts> since its more deep dive
21:24:37 <jflory7> Think it would be something you could break down? Maybe more of a series kind of angle?
21:25:00 <ryanlerch> croberts: deep dives into technical stuff are awesome for the magazine
21:25:00 <jflory7> Anything you think you could contribute on it would be fine. I'm not as familiar with the sysadmin side of things. :)
21:25:08 <croberts> ryanlerch: ok :)
21:25:47 <jflory7> Okay, I'm going to put together a quick proposal for the pending review articles, and then we can do a vote.
21:26:06 <ryanlerch> jflory7 +1 sorry for getting sidetracked there
21:26:15 <ryanlerch> croberts: can we loop back on this at the end?
21:26:35 * ryanlerch wouldnt mind having a quick idea session at the end of the meeting if we have time
21:26:48 <croberts> ryanlerch: sure
21:26:56 <croberts> it will take some time but i can do one on Katello
21:27:00 <croberts> jflory7: ^^
21:27:13 <jflory7> #proposed Publishing "Retiring 32-bit Cloud Images" on Friday, 2016-04-21; "Introducing the extra wallpaper for Fedora 24" on Monday, 2016-04-25; "Recording a quick screencast on Fedora Workstation" on Wednesday, 2016-04-27
21:27:15 <jflory7> +1
21:27:44 <jflory7> ryanlerch, croberts: No worries, new content discussion is always relevant, I think. :) Let's definitely loop back on this at the end, Katello sounds like we have something here!
21:27:58 <croberts> jflory7: cool
21:28:34 <jflory7> If the above proposal sounds good, we can hit drafts next.
21:28:54 <ridgemat> +1
21:28:56 <ridgemat> :)
21:29:34 <jflory7> Cool, let's go ahead and begin drafts :)
21:29:36 <jflory7> #agreed Publishing "Retiring 32-bit Cloud Images" on Friday, 2016-04-21; "Introducing the extra wallpaper for Fedora 24" on Monday, 2016-04-25; "Recording a quick screencast on Fedora Workstation" on Wednesday, 2016-04-27
21:29:39 <jflory7> #topic Drafts
21:30:38 <jflory7> #info === "What do you look forward to in Fedora 24?" ===
21:30:44 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12557&preview=true
21:30:55 <jflory7> I believe GIANT_CRAB is working on this one.
21:31:30 <jflory7> At a glance, it seems like he's still pulling together talking points. Some more progress on this one from last week. :)
21:32:07 <jflory7> Looking at the pitch outline and the header titles, I think GIANT_CRAB is going in the right direction with it
21:32:23 <jflory7> We were thinking of publishing this one the week of the F24 Beta.
21:32:44 <jflory7> #info Discussed on the mailing list to publish this article during the week of the F24 Beta
21:32:47 <ryanlerch> jflory7: this one looks promising!
21:33:06 <ryanlerch> that publish date makes sense!
21:33:25 <jflory7> For sure! Let's check in next week and see where things are.
21:33:45 <jflory7> #info GIANT_CRAB is still drafting this article and is making steady progress - we will check in again next week!
21:34:03 <jflory7> #info === "Cantarell font improvements" ===
21:34:07 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12482&preview=true
21:34:23 <jflory7> This was another one that has been discussed a little bit on the list, but it is still in progress.
21:34:31 <jflory7> Sylvia (lailah) is working on this one.
21:34:45 <jflory7> I think best bet is to check in again next week on this one too.
21:35:12 <ryanlerch> jflory7: agreed
21:35:31 <jflory7> Awesome. We'll check in again soon.
21:35:46 <jflory7> #info Sylvia (lailah) is still working on this article. We'll check in again on this one next week.
21:35:54 <jflory7> #info === "Call for Contributors: Fedora Magazine Authors" ===
21:35:59 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12491&preview=true
21:36:26 <jflory7> This was an article decause pitched out and I think it's an awesome idea to let people know that they can write for the Magazine.
21:36:46 <ryanlerch> this looks ready to go! :D
21:37:12 <jflory7> I was going to try to tackle that one, but I think it's about to hit the time of year where I'm going to have to slow down a little bit.
21:37:32 <jflory7> I can still work on it, but it might have a longer turnaround than I'd like to.
21:37:36 <ryanlerch> decause: ^
21:37:48 <ryanlerch> any plans on fleshing this one out more?
21:38:22 <MarkDude> This is an important article, I know many folks may not get how to write for it (just do it) and that makes you part of magazine
21:38:39 <jflory7> We decided last week that I was going to try to tackle it, but if decause thinks he could get it out sooner, than he should probably take it on. If not, I still think I can have it for some time in early or maybe mid-May.
21:39:10 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i am happy to take this one off your plate
21:39:14 <ryanlerch> if you don't mind
21:39:17 <MarkDude> How about a few sentences, its basic idea can be done that way, and more details later, but short version is ANYONE can write, and it gets a look over by others
21:39:43 <jflory7> ryanlerch: That would be awesome, if you have the cycles to spare!
21:39:48 <MarkDude> +1
21:39:50 <ryanlerch> MarkDude: do you want to do it?
21:40:17 <ryanlerch> otherwise, i am happy to
21:40:30 <MarkDude> Full plate now, just more encouraging it can be short article. Makes it seem easier, but fully trusts ryanlerch :)
21:40:47 <ryanlerch> okies! i'll do it!
21:41:04 <jflory7> Great!
21:41:14 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Do you want to set a target for the first draft date on this one?
21:41:21 * jflory7 goes to edit article metadata
21:41:36 <ryanlerch> early next week -- lets say tuesday?
21:41:52 <jflory7> +1 from me!
21:41:58 <ryanlerch> i'll draft something up then pass onto decause for review
21:42:18 <jflory7> Sounds like a plan. I'd also be happy to pass a review on it too
21:42:25 <ryanlerch> on a related note, we might want to move the widget for this to the top of the page
21:42:34 <ryanlerch> and maybe make it more than just text
21:42:36 * decause is not going to get it done sooner...
21:42:43 * decause is under a mountain of copy
21:42:51 <decause> backlogged copy
21:42:57 <ryanlerch> decause: no probs! /me will draft it up for you!
21:43:03 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:43:15 <decause> ryanlerch: can help with the edits, it just needs to be a simple call, nothing too fancy
21:43:22 <decause> ryanlerch++
21:43:23 <jflory7> I like the idea of putting extra emphasis on the due date widget too.
21:43:23 <decause> thank you
21:43:32 <ryanlerch> decause: i think i did one of these a while back too
21:43:52 <decause> ryanlerch: it's clear we just need more contributors to magazine, this is one way to hopefully get a few
21:43:53 <ryanlerch> i.e. a year or two ago
21:44:04 <decause> maybe we can mention that there are badges to be had also as an incentive
21:44:06 <ryanlerch> decause +100
21:44:15 <jflory7> Badges for sure!
21:44:20 <jflory7> That's usually a pretty good lure :)
21:44:23 <ryanlerch> i also email potential writers directly too
21:44:44 <decause> ryanlerch: trewth, more direct "you should post that to the magazine" queries would help.
21:44:53 <decause> I do that semi-often with stuff I see hitting mailing lists for commblog
21:45:14 <decause> it's a bit harder to do with userfacing stuff just because we publish that here ;P
21:45:41 <decause> it doesn't show up many places elsewhere on its own (the places I'm hanging out in in the trenches)
21:45:41 <jflory7> Sounds like we have a good game plan on this one.
21:45:46 <decause> nod nod
21:45:50 <jflory7> Thanks ryanlerch for helping out decause with this one. :)
21:45:59 <jflory7> I'll be excited to see this one go out!
21:46:04 * decause is going to do a copy sprint after budget adn gsoc
21:46:15 <jflory7> With that, do we want to hit the last two articles left in the drafts?
21:46:17 <decause> #action decause do a copy sprint after budget and GSoC
21:46:27 <decause> also Timecheck: 75%
21:46:51 <jflory7> Hmm, looking at the last two, they might not be any ones we can actually tackle tonight.
21:47:22 <jflory7> There's the OpenVPN one again, and nirik was going to try to get it for tomorrow, but he's pretty buried in his usual daily tasks. We kept the schedule flexible in case it wasn't ready in time.
21:47:26 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah OpenVPN and Copr are both in long-term holding patterns at the momnet
21:47:31 * nirik looks up.
21:47:38 <jflory7> Maybe we slide both of them into the Holding Pen for now.
21:47:51 <nirik> oh yeah, I hacked out a draft of that yesterday, but it seems to me like it would be better as a 2 or 3 parter
21:48:07 <nirik> 1 - how to manage certs (easy-rsa or something like that)
21:48:16 <nirik> 2 - how to get openvpn working
21:48:26 <nirik> 3 - advanced tricks/neat features
21:48:37 <ryanlerch> nirik: great!
21:48:39 <jflory7> Let's actually cover this one real fast then!
21:48:41 <jflory7> #info === "Protect your privacy with OpenVPN" ===
21:48:45 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=true
21:48:49 <jflory7> nirik++
21:48:57 <nirik> but yeah, no way it's ready yet. ;)
21:48:59 <jflory7> I think a three part series would be a great way of breaking this up.
21:49:04 <nirik> I can keep hacking on it as time permits
21:49:21 <jflory7> #info nirik has an initial local draft for the article. He thinks it would be better as a three-part series, broken up in the following way:
21:49:22 <ryanlerch> yeah, lets leave this one in drafts, but just not put a solid date on it
21:49:28 <jflory7> #info 1 - how to manage certs (easy-rsa or something like that)
21:49:33 <jflory7> #info 2 - how to get openvpn working
21:49:39 <jflory7> #info 3 - advanced tricks/neat features
21:49:53 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I'm +1 for that too
21:50:07 * decause said he'd help edit
21:50:07 <nirik> yeah, I can ping back when I have something ready to review
21:50:11 <jflory7> nirik, if keep working on this one, we can publish it whenever it's ready!
21:50:14 <jflory7> Excellent.
21:50:15 <decause> nirik: is there a place where we can collab on the drafts?
21:50:20 <decause> maybe a pagure repo?
21:50:33 <nirik> not yet really, but I can ping you when I have something ready to poke at?
21:50:39 * decause wants to help get work off the plate
21:50:42 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Do you think the COPR article is holding pen status?
21:51:01 <decause> #action decause help nirik edit OpenVPN article when it is ready for review
21:51:42 <nirik> easy-rsa should be pretty easy... just lots of commands, so it will need some work to make it interesting. ;)
21:51:49 <ryanlerch> jflory7: i think we might have to ask stickster about this one on the list
21:51:54 * jflory7 nods
21:51:57 <ryanlerch> keep it in drafts for now?
21:52:04 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Open discussion about COPR article on the list
21:52:12 <jflory7> Sounds good, we will follow up later.
21:52:20 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:52:46 <jflory7> Okay, let's hop over to open floor so croberts and ridgemat can get some feedback on any ideas!
21:52:48 <jflory7> #topic Pitches
21:52:52 <jflory7> #info No new pitches this week
21:52:55 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:53:02 * decause has one too
21:53:08 <jflory7> decause: Sure, go for it!
21:53:17 * decause will wait for others first though
21:53:27 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Also, since you and ridgemat are here, do you have admin privileges on the mailing list?
21:53:42 <ryanlerch> jflory7: the marketing list?
21:53:45 <croberts> manage certs is a good one
21:53:46 <ridgemat> Well, I had a thought this week - I've been trying home budget software, and HomeBank is really nice but could do with a overview/quick tutorial. Does that sound like a good idea or poor idea? :)
21:53:47 <croberts> +1 to that
21:54:02 <jflory7> ryanlerch: ridgemat needed to be approved for membership on the list. If I have privileges, I would be happy to help manage the mailing list too.
21:54:11 <decause> +1 how-to use fedora to do things IRL is good, IMHO
21:54:16 <jflory7> ridgemat: I've never heard of it before! Is it something packaged in Fedora?
21:54:28 <ridgemat> Yes, it's in gnome-software :)
21:54:32 <jflory7> Excellent :)
21:54:33 <jflory7> decause: +1
21:54:38 <MarkDude> +1
21:54:42 <ryanlerch> ridgemat: awesome idea
21:54:49 <decause> ridgemat: taxes being just over with, this may be a good topic (in the US)
21:55:11 <ridgemat> It's like GnuCash for people not wanting their heads to explode
21:55:17 <decause> ridgemat++
21:55:17 <zodbot> decause: Karma for mattnix changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:55:17 <ryanlerch> decause: taxes are never over with...
21:55:19 <ridgemat> decause: soudns good!
21:55:20 <jflory7> ridgemat: For reference, if something is packaged for Fedora and you want to write a how-to for it, those are *definitely* always welcome! :D
21:55:39 <ridgemat> jflory7: Great news! :) I can draft something for next week I'm sure?
21:55:41 <jflory7> The concerns come if it isn't packaged for Fedora because then sometimes things can have non-friendly licenses or other implications for writing about.
21:55:47 <ryanlerch> ridgemat: are you familiar with the process for pitches and all that?
21:56:06 <ridgemat> jflory7: I'm on a mission to only use software in the Fedora repos :) (and COPR!)
21:56:34 <jflory7> ridgemat: Sure! So, since you pitched the idea here in the meeting, I'm inclined to say you can skip getting "official" pitch approval status before beginning writing. However, creating an outline before writing is always a good idea anyways in my book.
21:56:35 <ridgemat> ryanlerch: Yep I think so - I'm just waiting on permission to post pitches on WP etc. and the mailing list (which hates me!)
21:56:41 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-a-new-pitch/
21:56:53 <ryanlerch> ridgemat: awesome!
21:56:53 <jflory7> Hopefully we can get the mailing list solved now.
21:57:10 <jflory7> ridgemat: I believe you should have permissions already to create a draft.
21:57:12 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah i dont think i have access to the marketing list
21:57:22 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Ah, darn. We'll probably need to ask stickster for that one.
21:57:25 <ridgemat> Sorry everyone - back in a second
21:57:29 <jflory7> No problem.
21:58:08 <jflory7> I can reach out to him in PM about the mailing list
21:58:22 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Ask stickster about the mailing list and helping get ridgemat approved
21:58:30 <jflory7> #nick stickster
21:58:57 <jflory7> croberts: Did you want some feedback or time to discuss the Katello idea?
21:59:07 <croberts> jflory7: sure
21:59:11 <ryanlerch> ridgemat: i just made you a author on the magazine, so you should be able to throw your pitch in there now
21:59:17 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:59:20 * ridgemat is back
21:59:30 <ridgemat> Thanks ryanlerch ! Much appreciated
21:59:35 <jflory7> I thought he was already set, thanks for double-checking, ryanlerch!
21:59:45 <croberts> jflory7: actually lets sync up offline
21:59:57 <ryanlerch> croberts: yeah this is def awesome for the magazine
22:00:04 <ryanlerch> sysadmins are users too!
22:00:06 <croberts> awesome :)
22:00:11 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Definitely :)
22:00:11 <MarkDude> Mailga is owner of mktg
22:00:36 * decause has a really quick one if we have time
22:00:39 <ryanlerch> croberts: the commblog / magazine split is more about Fedora Community / Fedora content
22:00:51 <ryanlerch> so something like this is def fedora magazine
22:00:52 <croberts> good to know
22:00:53 <jflory7> croberts: Sure thing – although I tentatively say public channels might be best for now. In coming weeks, I'm going to be pulling back for a bit while I take final exams at my university.
22:00:55 <jflory7> decause: Shoot!
22:01:06 <ryanlerch> we just tend to focus on workstation stuff, because that is what a lot of us know
22:01:13 <decause> today I did a part1 interview with Nate McCallum
22:01:21 <ryanlerch> so it would be good to get more stuff like this on the magazine
22:01:24 <decause> he's what I'd call a 'security expert'
22:01:32 <jflory7> ryanlerch: +100
22:01:36 <decause> and he told me about tang, which is part of a system of clevis and tang
22:01:45 <decause> which is like, next gen crypto-auth stuff
22:01:55 <decause> normally I'd be like "that is prolly too dense for mag"
22:01:56 <decause> however
22:02:12 <decause> Nate's MO seems to be 'security that is not accessible is often disabled"
22:02:30 <decause> so, he puts a *lot* of thought into designing new security that 'just works'
22:02:39 <decause> next gen oAuth stuff
22:02:42 <croberts> jflory7: sounds good ill talk more about it in the mktg chan
22:02:44 <decause> that is going to land in F24
22:02:48 <ryanlerch> decause: it would be awesome to get more deeper-dive content on the magazine!
22:02:50 <croberts> thanks for the meeting i have to head out
22:03:11 <decause> I'm going to do a follow-up interview with him next week on clevis
22:03:11 <jflory7> croberts++ Awesome. :) Feel free to ping me in channel, if I'm around I'll definitely give some feedback!
22:03:13 <ryanlerch> croberts: be sure to throw your pitch in
22:03:21 <MarkDude> +1 for overview, and maybe see if they'll do a short video to mention the plusses of it? And use video to point to in depth article?
22:03:26 <decause> but I learned *much* about crypto and how it works in Fedora/Linux/abstract today in one hour
22:03:36 <jflory7> decause: This all sounds awesome to me!
22:03:44 * decause digs for the video he made
22:03:46 <ridgemat> decause: This sounds *great*!
22:03:54 <jflory7> Could be a pretty hot topic for a "look into the COMPSEC crystal ball", perhaps
22:04:05 <ryanlerch> decause: this sounds awesome!
22:04:12 <decause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-83wkANtWdQ
22:04:16 <MarkDude> If decause is too busy, we have video folks that can do it, with Open Tools
22:04:24 <decause> nate made a video already
22:04:59 <decause> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-83wkANtWdQ
22:05:27 <MarkDude> +1 should be posted to Archive.org or Vimeo (that was process for official videos, assuming tis official)
22:05:27 <ryanlerch> decause: def a good idea! throw a pitch in :)
22:05:33 <jflory7> +1 for a pitch!
22:05:46 <decause> kk, word, just wanted to make sure folks werent' like "too techy"
22:05:46 <jflory7> decause: I'd say you have the "all clear" here. :)
22:05:53 <decause> or narrow
22:05:54 <jflory7> Ooh, for logging, let's get some of these things in
22:06:12 * ridgemat already wants to read it decause :)
22:06:18 <decause> #info decause will fill in a pitch for Clevis/Tang NextGen Security in F24
22:06:27 <MarkDude> +1
22:06:29 <jflory7> #agreed croberts is clear to begin working on a series / article about Katello for a sysadmin target audience
22:06:43 <decause> ridgemat: he gave an *awesome* talk at devconf about it, which is when i was like "ummmmmmm, I need to write about this."
22:06:53 <decause> he agreed, and we finally got onto eachother's calendars today
22:06:57 <decause> he wanted to wait unti the next release
22:07:09 <decause> it works in F23 now, but the behavior is a bit wonky
22:07:23 <jflory7> #agreed ridgemat is clear to begin working on an article introducing users to HomeBank in Fedora. He should have author privileges on the Magazine now, but needs a mailing list admin to approve him so he can use the mailing list.
22:07:25 <decause> soemthing about GNOME needing to always show the password input screen, and a UX patch to disable that behavior
22:07:41 <decause> fixed upstream in F24 though
22:07:41 <jflory7> Okay, I think I got everything!
22:07:48 <jflory7> Anything that I might have missed?
22:07:53 <decause> jflory7: sgtm
22:07:57 <decause> jflory7++
22:07:59 <jflory7> Or anything that anyone wants to bring up before we close?
22:08:06 <decause> thanks for chairing today
22:08:23 <jflory7> Always a pleasure :)
22:08:24 <decause> jflory7: I've gotten some *very* good feedback on pravins' article on commblog about the vFAD
22:08:24 <ridgemat> jflory7: So I can write the article as Draft not Pitch, right? :)
22:08:26 <MarkDude> That is a great video. Short and to the point, piques interest.
22:08:47 <decause> some folks are asking to flesh it out into a more meta "how to plan/execute a vFAD in Open Source"
22:08:48 <ridgemat> decause: I think I'm going to be reading about this all night now, thanks :)
22:08:57 <decause> ridgemat: it's def #newhottness
22:09:00 <jflory7> ridgemat: Yep! However, I would still highly recommend an outline anyways. I find them personally help for organizing ideas into a bulletpoint format before writing. But whatever works best for you!
22:09:07 <decause> ridgemat: look up the talk, it is worth it
22:09:22 <jflory7> decause: It was a super great article and tells an awesome story :)
22:09:51 <ridgemat> jflory7: Will do! I like neat and organised too :)
22:09:57 <jflory7> Excellent :)
22:09:59 <jflory7> ridgemat++
22:09:59 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for mattnix changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:10:05 <ridgemat> decause: I will indeed, thanks
22:10:07 <jflory7> Hey, your karma is finally working!
22:10:09 <jflory7> Woohoo :)
22:10:19 <ridgemat> Yay! :D
22:10:19 <decause> pravins++
22:10:26 <jflory7> Alrighty, open floor, going once...
22:10:26 * decause is good
22:10:29 <decause> we're ten over
22:10:30 <decause> :P
22:10:36 <jflory7> Going twice...
22:10:46 <jflory7> Going thrice...
22:10:48 <ryanlerch> to the marketing RC channel
22:11:02 <jflory7> Okay, thanks for coming today everyone, see you in channel and on the mailing list!
22:11:05 <jflory7> #endmeeting