14:00:09 <randomuser> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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14:00:09 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:00:09 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:00:18 <randomuser> #chair zoglesby pbokoc
14:00:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: pbokoc randomuser zoglesby
14:01:33 * zoglesby is here
14:03:42 <randomuser> good morning, zoglesby
14:06:10 <randomuser> #topic New Writers
14:06:28 <randomuser> Any new writers, reports of new writers, or concerns regarding the lack of reports of new writers?
14:06:53 * pbokoc is late
14:09:01 * randomuser infers no
14:09:12 <randomuser> #topic Release Notes
14:09:28 <pbokoc> well, relnotes are finally filling up at least a bit
14:09:41 <randomuser> Activity in the release-notes repo is picking up; I think we have made substantial progress on Changes
14:10:07 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats
14:10:32 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule
14:10:42 <randomuser> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-docs-tasks.html
14:11:37 <randomuser> besides continuing with the writing, we need to cycle POTs to zanata
14:12:08 <pbokoc> randomuser, do we do that before beta?
14:12:22 <randomuser> #info remember to push translations to zanata after review
14:12:42 <randomuser> pbokoc, according to the schedule, yes
14:13:10 <pbokoc> hm. Time to chop chop I guess
14:13:32 <randomuser> it would probably be a good idea to get some minimal peer review in before running the push command, but we *should* be making the strings available for translation
14:14:28 <zoglesby> randomuser: maybe build a copy and put in on fedorapeople, so people can read without looking a src?
14:14:47 <randomuser> #action randomuser to build relnotes on fedorapeople
14:15:23 <randomuser> any other thoughts on relnotes?
14:18:04 <randomuser> probably not
14:18:11 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:18:26 <randomuser> pbokoc, Capesteve - can you share a status report, please?
14:18:36 <Capesteve> Hello
14:19:34 <Capesteve> I have not done any work  last week, but can create repos for f24 anytime
14:20:07 <pbokoc> I'm hoping I can make Clayton talk to the anaconda team, figure out what changed in 24, write about it in relnotes and update the Install Guide at the same time
14:20:27 <Capesteve> week or so ago last spent some time going through outstanding bugs
14:21:12 <pbokoc> I don't expect there to be any huge changes, just some small ones in kickstart syntax maybe
14:21:16 <Capesteve> randomuser: when do you want to build the guides?
14:21:34 <pbokoc> it would be nice if we could document the new media creator, assuming it really works, but I'm not sure I'll have time for that. Also I don't have a Windows system, and I recall hearing something about the tool only working on Win right now
14:21:37 <randomuser> Capesteve, around beta release day, probably
14:23:13 <pbokoc> randomuser, I think historically we've only been building relnotes for beta and anything else only for the final release, haven't we?
14:23:24 <randomuser> I haven't looked at the media creator yet, but people do like a solid description of the security measures we take when distributing deliverables, and if it is the default download, there's changes there
14:23:35 <randomuser> pbokoc, *shrug* - we build what's ready
14:23:50 <pbokoc> randomuser, it would also mean we could finally get rid of the powershell mess in the media creation chapter :))
14:24:01 <Capesteve> there is a chance we might get more bug reports if we publish for beta
14:24:06 <pbokoc> and close all those bugs that each says something different
14:24:13 <Capesteve> more eyes, bugs shallow etc.
14:25:37 * randomuser agrees
14:25:52 <randomuser> maintainer's discretion, really
14:26:16 <randomuser> #topic Publishing
14:26:36 <randomuser> #info FAD set for 6 May - 8 May
14:27:00 <randomuser> I don't really have any *news* here, but it is happening
14:29:14 <pbokoc> well, the attendee list is surprisingly big
14:29:33 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Documentation_2016
14:30:10 * randomuser can't help but read the list as 'jared, pete, zach, others'
14:30:42 <zoglesby> If history show anything, many of the remote folks will not show up
14:33:20 <randomuser> well, we can consider it mentioned, at least
14:33:33 <randomuser> #info stay tuned to common channels for remote fad attendance info
14:33:48 <randomuser> #topic #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:33:51 <randomuser> bah
14:33:53 <randomuser> #undo
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14:33:57 <randomuser> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:34:07 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:34:18 <Capesteve> Beta target date 2016-05-03
14:35:32 <randomuser> It looks like there's a lot of low hanging fruit in there
14:36:03 <randomuser> #info many bugs are probably easy to fix given a little background knowledge, and fixing them is a good way to get that knowledge
14:37:28 <randomuser> okay, that's bugs
14:37:33 <randomuser> #topic Open Floor Discussion
14:38:40 <zoglesby> c0mrad3 was accepted to work with Docs for GSoC, we are working on a game plan for him, but I don't have much to talk about on this until after the FAD as things may change as a result of that.
14:39:01 <randomuser> congrats c0mrad3 !
14:39:15 <pbokoc> nice
14:39:28 <randomuser> zoglesby, should we add an agenda item at some point?
14:39:34 <zoglesby> short version of the story for now, he is here and will be working on our publishing woes over the summer
14:39:42 <zoglesby> randomuser: I did, but you did not check the wiki
14:40:11 <randomuser> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Standing_Agenda ?
14:40:47 <zoglesby> yep you see the #topic GSoC Updates after guies?
14:41:14 * randomuser refreshes
14:41:38 <randomuser> yes, yes I do.
14:42:17 <zoglesby> so I have asked him to give a weekly update in the meeting, or if he can not attend to give it to me and I will do the talking at the meeting
14:42:29 * randomuser notes Cache-Control: s-maxage=432000, must-revalidate, max-age=0
14:43:18 <randomuser> cool.  Is he boning up on anything in the meantime, or is it too early in the process for him to dig in?
14:43:49 <randomuser> like, maybe general community and workflow stuff?
14:44:07 <zoglesby> that all starts this week
14:44:24 <zoglesby> and with that I need to run to another meeting
14:44:46 <randomuser> okay, thanks zoglesby
14:46:01 <randomuser> allright, ima call it
14:46:11 <randomuser> thanks for coming, folks, see you around
14:46:16 <randomuser> #endmeeting