14:05:45 <zoglesby> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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14:05:52 <zoglesby> #meetingname Fedora Docs
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14:06:00 <zoglesby> #topic Roll Call
14:06:10 <c0mrad3> .hello dhanvi
14:06:10 <zoglesby> #info Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help in order to make the
14:06:10 <zodbot> c0mrad3: dhanvi 'Tummala Dhanvi' <dhanvicse@gmail.com>
14:06:14 <bexelbie> .hello bex
14:06:16 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
14:07:13 * randomuser arrives
14:07:44 <stickster> .hello pfrields
14:07:45 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
14:07:52 <zoglesby> #chair randomuser
14:07:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: randomuser zoglesby
14:08:11 <zoglesby> I am trying to run two meetings at the same time! randomuser take this one
14:08:18 * stickster lurking to see how things are progressing with tool/process rollout
14:08:25 <stickster> heh
14:08:31 <randomuser> got it, zoglesby
14:08:52 <randomuser> welcome, stickster
14:09:19 <randomuser> #topic New Writers
14:09:29 <randomuser> any new-ish folks lurking around today?
14:09:30 * c0mrad3 wondering zoglesby is having another fedora meeting or a day job meeting
14:10:53 * stickster runs afk but will catch up on backscroll in a few minutes
14:10:59 <randomuser> let's say no, but feel free to jump in whenever even if you missed the topic
14:11:06 <randomuser> #topic GSoC Updates
14:11:16 <randomuser> hey c0mrad3, what have you been up to?
14:12:09 <c0mrad3> well this week was kind of slow, I just got started with packaging https://github.com/projectmallard/pintail-asciidoc
14:12:24 <c0mrad3> the second task as the part of gsoc
14:12:42 <c0mrad3> #link https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issues?assignee=dhanvi
14:12:48 <c0mrad3> #link https://github.com/projectmallard/pintail-asciidoc
14:13:12 <randomuser> any spec yet?
14:13:14 <c0mrad3> #link https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dhanvi/asciidoctor-mallard/
14:13:37 <randomuser> oh, this is what you did two weeks ago
14:13:45 <c0mrad3> asciidoctor-mallard has a successful build
14:13:53 <randomuser> file a review request, send an email to devel@ asking for review, and move on to the next thing
14:14:12 <randomuser> ... which is?
14:14:19 <c0mrad3> randomuser: I have spec for the second package in my local machine
14:14:35 <randomuser> c0mrad3, please share it today
14:14:56 <c0mrad3> sure I agree things are going on a bit slow on my side but I will speed them up
14:14:59 <c0mrad3> <eof>
14:15:09 <randomuser> python packages are quite straightforward, i think between the two of us we can get it done today or tomorrow
14:15:43 <c0mrad3> I was also working on getting started with git hooks
14:15:50 <c0mrad3> as my mentor mentioned
14:15:52 <randomuser> cool, what kind of hooks?
14:16:39 <c0mrad3> I mean pagure supports them kind of https://pagure.io/git-hooks-test
14:17:12 <randomuser> what functionality to you intend to achieve with git hooks?
14:17:32 <randomuser> there's only a readme there
14:17:59 <c0mrad3> I was also talking to https://farhaanbukhsh.wordpress.com/2016/06/02/pagure-ci/  farran who is also working on similar project
14:18:21 <randomuser> yeah, i saw that - it looks really neat :)
14:18:29 <randomuser> it might be able to handle our CI needs entirely
14:18:34 <c0mrad3> randomuser: it was test repo to work with git hooks
14:19:06 <c0mrad3> well it was my gsoc task to handle our CI tasks
14:19:32 <c0mrad3> #link https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issue/16
14:20:02 <c0mrad3> so I am pretty positive that I can complete my project :)
14:20:06 <c0mrad3> <eof>
14:20:26 <randomuser> okay, okay, we'll eof for you
14:20:33 <randomuser> thanks for bringing us up to speed
14:20:46 <randomuser> #topic Release Notes
14:20:54 <randomuser> #action randomuser to build new package today, already
14:21:27 <randomuser> if you're following the mailing list, you, like me, realized that we've been neglecting to push POTs to zanata
14:21:33 <stickster> c0mrad3: Is there a place where the CI plan is laid out on the wiki, or elsewhere?
14:21:37 <randomuser> so, please push your PTs to zanata
14:22:12 <stickster> c0mrad3: so an "innocent bystander" can see what your goals are for CI?
14:22:21 <c0mrad3> stickster: I am afraid no! for now we just agreed to use buildbot
14:22:30 <randomuser> stickster, that pagure issue is our back of the napkin notes
14:22:52 <c0mrad3> I will let you know in the updates
14:22:55 <stickster> OK, https://pagure.io/docs-fp-o/issue/16#comment-2821
14:23:06 <randomuser> if there's another student working on the CI functionality, we should probably focus on what the CI will execute for now
14:23:24 * stickster has been hearing a bit about OpenStack's new CI stuff lately too
14:24:07 <randomuser> c0mrad3, if you'll be around for a bit after the meeting, let's talk abou tit
14:24:35 <randomuser> if not, let's talk about it anyway :)
14:24:52 <randomuser> #info please push your POTs to zanata, all the time
14:24:55 * c0mrad3 sure randomuser
14:26:07 <randomuser> I changed the topic a bit early, i guess
14:26:18 <randomuser> any further thoughts on release notes?
14:27:28 <randomuser> let's assume no
14:27:33 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:27:47 <randomuser> cspicer, are you available to comment on the install guide?
14:28:31 <cspicer> hello! sorry was afk
14:29:15 * c0mrad3 will be back
14:29:30 <cspicer> what's the question?
14:29:48 <randomuser> cspicer, you're handling the installation guide these days, iirc?
14:30:08 <randomuser> i'm wondering what work needs to be done on it for f24, if any
14:30:27 <cspicer> well I have offered to do what I can, for sure, but still quite new to it
14:30:41 <cspicer> yeah there's probably a few things, off the top of my head
14:31:11 <cspicer> we'll need to mention inst.nosave
14:31:35 * randomuser nods
14:32:01 <randomuser> i'm encouraged to hear there's things at the top of your head :)
14:32:41 <randomuser> can you maybe brain dump a todo list at https://pagure.io/install-guide/issues ?  others probably have cycles, given some direction
14:32:59 <cspicer> haha it's a small space, the floor isn't too far from the ceiling
14:33:06 <randomuser> heh
14:33:11 <cspicer> sure
14:33:28 <randomuser> awesome, thanks
14:34:10 <randomuser> #info guide maintainers should file pagure issues for pending work; taking ownership is optional, coordination is as important as actual writing
14:34:33 <pbokoc> cspicer, if you send me patches I can push them for you
14:34:49 <pbokoc> same thing we did with relnotes
14:34:58 <cspicer> great, will do
14:35:07 <cspicer> did those ever get published btw?
14:35:22 <randomuser> feel free to add him to the #fedora-docs group on pagure when the time is right, pbokoc
14:35:29 <randomuser> s/#/@/
14:36:21 <pbokoc> I'll do that right after he finally sends that introduction mail to docs like he was supposed to do months ago! :P
14:36:28 <randomuser> zing!
14:37:56 <randomuser> any other guides we should talk about?
14:38:21 <randomuser> I'll be doing a round of publishing this week, so queue em' up
14:39:32 <randomuser> #topic Publishing
14:40:04 <randomuser> #info insubstantial progress on pintail configs has been made
14:40:14 <randomuser> i've played with it, zoglesby has played with it
14:40:26 <randomuser> personally, i've got some mallard/ducktype learning to do
14:40:43 <randomuser> as the index and such are written in that
14:40:52 <zoglesby> I am waiting for the asciidoc package to be done, right now we have docbook stuff in the cfg that will need to be pulled out anyway
14:41:42 <randomuser> perhaps if someone - *ahem* pkovar - has more experience with such things, they could dumb it down for me :)
14:42:20 <randomuser> i'll work with c0mrad3 on the asciidoc-mallard package
14:43:44 <randomuser> and perhaps nb can be our goto packaging sponsor
14:44:36 <pkovar> if you have mallard questions, feel free to ask me :)
14:44:46 <randomuser> pkovar, how do I mallard ?
14:44:48 * randomuser ducks
14:44:52 <pkovar> haha
14:44:56 <pkovar> that's a hard one
14:44:58 <c0mrad3> haha
14:45:23 <randomuser> really though, thanks, i will probably have some questions
14:46:00 <pkovar> cool
14:46:12 <randomuser> any additional thoughts or questions on the publishing topic?
14:46:19 <pkovar> happy to see mallard being used outside of gnome land
14:46:38 <c0mrad3> may be doing our work flow on a basic doc file pkovar
14:47:01 <randomuser> my biggest hangup is ducktype at this point
14:47:21 <randomuser> shaunm tried to explain it to me, I decided he is a witch and ducktype is witchcraft
14:48:02 * cspicer is belatedly zinged - sorry about that email!
14:48:11 <randomuser> c0mrad3, gnome docs is looking at pintail as well, as I understand it
14:48:22 <randomuser> at least, shaun would really like that
14:49:04 <c0mrad3> yes they are using it
14:50:43 <randomuser> okay, that's publishing
14:50:59 <randomuser> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:51:04 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:51:26 <randomuser> while we're on bugs.. at some point, bz tickets should be migrated to pagure
14:51:37 <randomuser> keep that in mind if you bump into someone looking for something to do
14:52:45 * c0mrad3 need to do
14:53:14 <randomuser> not sure if he's volunteering or announcing his departure :/
14:53:20 <randomuser> #topic Open floor discussion
14:54:22 <randomuser> speak your mind, folks
14:54:56 <zoglesby> I closed a ticket on the release notes issues the other day
14:55:23 <randomuser> the 'when are you gonna push to zanata' issue?
14:55:57 <zoglesby> Yes, anyone have an issue with that? I did not think that was a good way to use issues on pagure, but if other disagree I would like to know
14:56:14 <randomuser> i'll admit to being mildly embarrassed by having that problem
14:56:26 <randomuser> but I do agree that it isn't in scope for a pagure issue
14:56:44 <zoglesby> Okay, just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page.
14:57:00 <randomuser> it's the project sources, and the issues should be .. issues with the project sources
14:57:50 <zoglesby> agreed
14:59:20 <randomuser> okay, it's about time
14:59:33 <randomuser> good meeting, everyone, hope to see you around
14:59:38 <randomuser> #endmeeting