15:01:14 <coremodule> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:01:23 <coremodule> #meetingname fedora-qa
15:01:23 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
15:01:32 <coremodule> #topic Roll Call
15:01:39 <coremodule> Who's around?
15:01:49 * satellit listening
15:02:10 * pschindl is here
15:02:21 <coremodule> Good morning satellit, pschindl
15:03:11 <coremodule> #chair satellit pschindl
15:03:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule pschindl satellit
15:04:57 <coremodule> We'll give 'em a few more minutes, it was short notice this morning.
15:05:16 * kparal is here
15:05:26 <coremodule> Good morning kparal
15:05:32 <coremodule> #chair kparal
15:05:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule kparal pschindl satellit
15:08:29 <coremodule> Well, let's get started this morning. We'll keep it as short as possible.
15:08:50 <coremodule> #topic adamw and satellit to submit the step-by-step live image guide as a pull request for lorax docs
15:09:10 <coremodule> Any news here?
15:09:28 <satellit> there is a wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Livemedia-creator-_How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
15:10:04 <satellit> but I do not know how to put in lorax docs...
15:11:22 <coremodule> #info satellit created step-by-step guide to live image install here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Livemedia-creator-_How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
15:11:44 <coremodule> #info still needs to be put into lorax docs
15:11:48 <paragan> satellit, you may want to contribute to this help page if anything is missing there -> https://github.com/rhinstaller/lorax/blob/master/docs/livemedia-creator.rst
15:12:30 <satellit> I am not familiar with edit protocol here
15:12:58 <paragan> maybe talk to lorax developers and they can help
15:13:45 <satellit> big problem I found was using /tmp/lmc   ran out of memory   /var/lmc solved it
15:14:15 <satellit> who should I contact?
15:15:11 <paragan> satellit, or you can ask on #anaconda channel
15:15:19 <satellit> ok will do
15:15:26 <paragan> thanks
15:16:05 <coremodule> #info satellit to contact lorax devs to see about correct editing protocol
15:16:32 <coremodule> #topic cmurf to collect replies to blocker notification thread and make a proposal for changes if any
15:17:13 <coremodule> Does anyone have an idea as to if this was completed?
15:17:45 <kparal> there were some replies
15:17:46 * kparal looking
15:18:15 <coremodule> Thanks kparal
15:19:28 <kparal> can't find it right now
15:19:43 <kparal> no proposal was made AFAIK
15:19:53 <kparal> but there weren't many replies saying that something needs to be changed
15:20:03 <kparal> so I think the procedure will stay as it is
15:20:22 <kparal> we can keep the item for the next time to confirm with cmurf
15:20:38 <coremodule> Alright, we'll standby on this until we hear from cmurf
15:21:51 <coremodule> #info cmurf was not around to consult with on this, so we will wait until we talk to him
15:22:10 <coremodule> #topic adamw to post final F23 HoF and first F24 HoF
15:22:13 <coremodule> To be honest, I don'
15:22:20 <coremodule> t know what an HoF is...
15:22:28 <kparal> heroes of fedora
15:22:38 <kparal> stats about QA contributions
15:22:55 <coremodule> Ahhhh, okay. Is that on adamw's blog?
15:23:23 <kparal> I don't see it there
15:23:51 <kparal> this got posted: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-hof-f23-final/
15:23:56 <kparal> F24 stats were not
15:24:20 <coremodule> #info HoF 23 stats were posted here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-hof-f23-final/
15:24:58 <coremodule> #info HoF 24 stats cannot be found, coremodule to consult with adamw when he gets back about this
15:25:42 <kparal> I'm pretty sure adamw hasn't posted F24 stats yet
15:25:53 <kparal> I watch all the usual channels
15:26:56 <coremodule> Alright, well we've got the F23 stats now, which puts us better off than we were last meeting. I'll shoot adamw an email inquiring so we can close this.
15:27:45 <coremodule> #topic sumantro and/or adamw to write personal and/or communityblog posts about the meeting
15:28:34 <coremodule> I could not find anything regarding the onboarding session, I know that it was supposed to be recorded and posted somewhere but those posts have yet to be found...
15:28:54 <kparal> is it this? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/hosting-fedora-test-day/
15:29:09 <kparal> that's not onboarding, though
15:29:19 <kparal> there's also this: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/getting-started-fedora-qa-part-1/
15:29:49 <kparal> not sure what "the meeting" means
15:30:31 <coremodule> I don't think either of those are them, the first one is for test days and the second was in early June... The onboarding session was on Friday, July 8 I think.
15:31:11 <coremodule> Sorry, Thursday, July 7.
15:31:53 <coremodule> According to this, we're waiting for a link to the video: http://piratepad.nl/yCH1St3wOr
15:32:37 <FQ224> yes, does anyone has the recorded video  on youtube or somewhere else for those who can not join the session because of the limitation of the google hangout?
15:32:45 <coremodule> In the meantime, it looks like sumantro has posted these to get started with: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlylBL-4PErH8goQ1IXPggQ19CD9STuk6
15:33:09 <coremodule> The above link isn't the Google Hangouts recording, but it looks like some good content to get started with.
15:33:58 <coremodule> #info coremodule to inquire about the link to the Google Hangouts recording and post is publicly
15:34:56 <FQ224> that is  also helpful,thx
15:35:19 <coremodule> #topic Open floor
15:35:40 <coremodule> Did anyone here participate in the onboarding session?
15:36:09 <FQ224> i did ,but droped in the middle because the connection
15:36:39 <coremodule> FQ224, Of what you saw, what did you think?
15:37:32 <kripx> Hi, I joined QA group. I am newbie, I hope it is okey for me to watch the meeting.
15:37:58 <FQ224> that’s helpful but need for re-check for our none english native audience
15:38:10 <coremodule> kripx, No problem! We're close to wrapping up, but stay tuned, you might catch something helpful!
15:38:44 <FQ224> a little bit hard to listen to the guy from india :)
15:39:38 <coremodule> #info Good idea to have a multi-language onboarding session: need a native Indian-speaker to host a session
15:39:40 <FQ224> so have to re-check the recorded video to make sure any detail stuff
15:40:22 <coremodule> Any other feedback on the onboarding session?
15:41:02 <FQ224> need a short guide with related link about the session, that’ also helpful
15:41:38 <coremodule> FQ224, Does the etherpad link help any?
15:42:24 <FQ224> that’s the agenda topic, which lead to a lot of open resouce, need more specific, bottom line, etherpad works ok
15:42:45 <coremodule> FQ224, Gotcha, going in the minutes.
15:42:52 <FQ224> thanks~
15:43:19 <coremodule> #info Need a bare-bones, bottom-line summary of the onboarding session
15:43:38 <coremodule> One last thing to talk about before we wrap up today: blocker review meeting.
15:44:15 * kparal has one more topic: graphical system upgrades for F23
15:44:38 <coremodule> You have the floor kparal, didn't mean to cut you off.
15:44:47 <kparal> ok
15:45:09 <kparal> so, we're about to give GO to graphical system upgrades for F23
15:45:28 <kparal> all critical issues seem to have been resolved
15:45:31 <kparal> but I'd welcome any further testing
15:45:37 <kparal> the bodhi update is here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-fad11727bf
15:45:45 <kparal> the list of bugs is linked inside
15:46:12 <kparal> the procedure is pretty simple, update, and then look into Updates in gnome-software, you'll see "F24 available" banner
15:46:47 <kparal> so, if anyone else tests that and gives karma to bodhi (a also report any bugs to bugzilla, if required), that would be awesome
15:47:11 <kparal> we'll probably push it in the next few days, if we see no negative feedback
15:47:31 <kparal> that's all from me, thanks
15:48:12 <coremodule> kparal, This is F23 --> F24 graphical update?
15:48:17 <kparal> yes
15:48:28 <coremodule> Gotcha.
15:49:30 <coremodule> #info Testing on F23 --> F24 graphical update would be helpful to pushing this stable: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-fad11727bf
15:50:20 <coremodule> Thanks kparal
15:52:16 <coremodule> For the blocker review meeting, it's too late to carry the meeting out at regular time (Monday, 16:00UTC), since we have a few 'Proposed Blockers' to go over, would scheduling the meeting for later this week (Wed/Thurs/Fri) help, and if so are there any preferences to the day?
15:52:53 <kparal> it's not yet too late, it's in 8 minutes :)
15:53:00 <kparal> however, today is not really working for me
15:53:19 <coremodule> :P
15:53:31 <kparal> I don't have a preference about a different day
15:53:48 <kparal> what about pschindl, garretraziel?
15:54:41 * satellit I have to leave  cannot attend
15:54:55 <kparal> however, there are only 3 proposed blocker for alpha, I don't think we're in *that* rush
15:55:14 <kparal> so even if we properly announce it for next monday, things should be fine, I guess
15:55:29 <kparal> however, I'm on vacation next week
15:55:36 <kparal> (so even better for me :P )
15:55:57 <coremodule> lol hmmm, a predicament indeed.
15:56:54 <coremodule> Let's plan something for Thursday at 16:00UTC, that gives a bit of a buffer in case something comes up.
15:56:56 <kparal> seems everybody else fell asleep
15:57:52 <tflink> zzzzz
15:58:21 <pschindl> I had to leave for a while. I have to catch up.
15:59:08 <kparal> pschindl: any preference to a blocker bug meeting this week (or next week)?
15:59:11 <pschindl> ah blocker bug meeting. I would prefer Wednesday.
15:59:30 <pschindl> or next week. I couldn't attend at Thursday.
15:59:47 <pschindl> I can run if I'll be available.
16:00:01 <kparal> ok, let's do Wed
16:00:03 <coremodule> pschindl, Let's do Wednesday then.
16:01:24 <coremodule> #info pschindl to host Blocker Review meeting on Wednesday, July 20 at 16:00UTC
16:01:43 <coremodule> Anything else we should go over?
16:02:21 <kparal> nothing from me
16:02:34 <coremodule> Meeting terminating in 3...
16:02:45 <coremodule> 2...
16:02:57 <coremodule> 1...
16:03:12 <coremodule> Thanks for the participation, see you Wednesday! :P
16:03:14 <coremodule> #endmeeting