21:00:05 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 21:00:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 21:00:05 2016 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:06 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 21:00:07 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 21:00:07 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 21:00:09 <stickster> #topic Roll call 21:00:11 <stickster> .hello pfrields 21:00:13 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 21:00:18 <jflory7> .hello jflory7 21:00:19 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com> 21:00:28 <cprofitt> .hello cprofitt 21:00:29 <zodbot> cprofitt: cprofitt 'Charles Profitt' <fedora@cprofitt.com> 21:00:52 <jflory7> o/ 21:01:53 * stickster pings ryanlerch to see if he's around 21:02:56 <stickster> OK, we need to get rolling 21:02:59 <stickster> #topic Last week review 21:02:59 <jflory7> Ping him with a cup of coffee ;) 21:03:01 * jflory7 nods 21:03:07 <stickster> #chair jflory7 cprofitt 21:03:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: cprofitt jflory7 stickster 21:03:12 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch 21:03:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: cprofitt jflory7 ryanlerch stickster 21:03:34 <stickster> So it was a bit of a slow week due to Flock 21:03:51 <stickster> I was hoping to have an article queued in advance, but the author didn't get it to me :-( 21:03:59 <jflory7> I (regretfully) missed the second day keynote... the jet lag caught up with me on Wednesday... :( 21:04:10 <jflory7> I was planning on taking notes but missed the session 21:04:22 <stickster> So the week was down as expected, but not terribly 21:04:35 <stickster> thank you cprofitt for the HDYF article! 21:04:40 * cprofitt smiles 21:04:41 <jflory7> cprofitt++ 21:04:43 <cprofitt> you are welcome 21:04:44 <stickster> cprofitt++ 21:04:59 <stickster> The good news is we have a chance to get things in great shape for next week 21:05:29 <stickster> #info July 2016 was our 2nd-highest non-release month of views ever 21:06:12 <jflory7> Whoa, really? 21:06:17 <jflory7> Awesome! 21:06:25 <stickster> Yup, the only one better that didn't have a release in it was May 2015 21:06:44 <jflory7> That's awesome. 21:06:49 <stickster> #topic Pending review 21:06:57 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending 21:07:26 <stickster> #info stickster pushed out a mostly-ready article on using shell extensions 21:07:34 <stickster> it was the closest to ready, and we needed a post today :-) 21:08:03 <stickster> #info --- Performance profiling with perf --- 21:08:07 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13999&preview=1&_ppp=85841a798c 21:08:25 <jflory7> Oh! And I have something else pending review that's not quite in "pending review" (later) 21:08:41 <stickster> This perf article looks pretty good 21:08:55 <stickster> It needs style/lang editing but it has good screenshots 21:08:57 <jflory7> stickster: This was one that originally was on the CommBlog, but thought with some cleanup / formatting, it would be a good piece for the Magazine 21:09:04 <stickster> jflory7: agreed! 21:09:11 <stickster> great fit for the Mag IMHO 21:10:57 <stickster> #action stickster take on editing the perf article 21:11:08 <stickster> I think we could set this one to publish Monday 2016-08-15 21:11:22 <jflory7> +1. 21:11:29 <cprofitt> +1 21:12:08 <stickster> #agreed publish perf article Mon 2016-08-15 21:12:08 <jflory7> For what it's worth, I'll be avoiding taking on too much of an editing load until the 22nd - I'm finishing up GSoC and also have a fair backlog in the CommBlog that needs my attention too. But post-22nd, I should be back to full gears 21:12:18 <stickster> sounds fine to me jflory7 21:12:29 <stickster> I'm going to lean on ryanlerch to help out with one or two articles now that Flock is over 21:13:12 <stickster> #info --- Temporary graphics fix --- 21:13:13 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13941&preview=1&_ppp=af3ad53bda 21:13:38 * jflory7 clicks 21:13:58 <cprofitt> +1 21:14:00 <stickster> So... this is another article Georg contributed, but it's a really limited audience and I don't know whether it makes a good Magazine post 21:14:17 * jflory7 isn't sure how widespread the problem is 21:14:21 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch 21:14:22 <jflory7> Having that context would help 21:14:22 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 21:14:29 * cprofitt ponders 21:14:31 <jflory7> And if it is a notable issue, it would need to be shipped ASAP 21:14:42 <jflory7> Otherwise it'll just be fixed upstream, I imagine 21:14:52 <stickster> o/ ryanlerch !!! 21:14:52 <cprofitt> it is a limited article... but it could affect a good cross-section of users 21:14:58 <jflory7> ryanlerch: o/ Good morning! 21:15:00 <ryanlerch> heyhey! sorry im late! 21:15:03 <cprofitt> I meant limited audience 21:15:25 <jflory7> I think deciding whether to publish it comes down to a question of whether or not we could get it published tomorrow 21:15:46 <cprofitt> also, if we are going to publish screenshots I would prefer them to be the actual screenshots -- not a previous Kernel 21:16:14 * mailga is around 21:16:30 <jflory7> mailga: Good evening! 21:16:33 <jflory7> #chair ryanlerch mailga 21:16:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: cprofitt jflory7 mailga ryanlerch stickster 21:16:54 <mailga> jflory7: good morning? for you. 21:17:10 <cprofitt> I am torn on this one 21:17:30 <stickster> The other question, jflory7, is whether -- very high-impact security issues aside -- whether we want the Magazine to be where we publish workarounds for bugs. 21:17:38 <jflory7> Hmmm. 21:17:41 <stickster> oops, s/whether// 21:17:49 <jflory7> Valid point. 21:18:02 <stickster> On the one hand, we could have a never ending flow of articles ;-D 21:18:03 <cprofitt> I think I would lean against publishig that one. 21:18:21 <stickster> On the other, not a very fun Magazine ("Come read about all the broken things") 21:18:26 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, i'm leaning towwards no -- especially when the workaround is quite techincal itself too 21:18:30 <jflory7> Yeah... with that note... I think this isn't the best content for the Magazine 21:19:09 <mailga> ? 21:19:29 <stickster> You know, this would make a good personal blog, though -- and sgallagh had mentioned at Flock he might be into doing a quick weekly summary of "interesting things seen on other blogs etc. around Fedora" 21:19:33 <jflory7> As someone having this problem now... I think I might just wait until 4.7 kernel anyways, heheh 21:19:45 <jflory7> stickster: Yeah, this kind of thing would be great for something like that 21:19:46 <stickster> jflory7: You could always pick up the Rawhide kernel to fix it 21:19:53 <jflory7> Oh, true. 21:20:04 <mailga> and going to publish only workaround of the most important bugs? 21:21:32 <jflory7> mailga: I think we've done that before (e.g. shellshock / heartbleed) 21:23:04 <stickster> jflory7: Right, just critical security things that are plastered all over the news 21:23:09 * jflory7 nods 21:23:33 <mailga> jflory7: ok. But they were general bugs, aren't they? And the ones strictly related to Fedora? (I don't have any in mind at the moment). 21:24:17 <jflory7> mailga: The ones I remember were general, not specific to Fedora. 21:24:54 * mailga thinks we should ask for a less perfect distro... 21:25:00 <stickster> ha 21:25:09 <stickster> well, in any case, I think I'm -1 to move this on, fwiw 21:25:20 <jflory7> stickster: Agreed on -1 21:25:26 <ryanlerch> yeah -1 from me too 21:25:26 <cprofitt> If we have a need for more articles next week I am working on several HDYF articles currently. 21:25:38 <stickster> #agreed won't publish the temporary graphics fix article 21:25:58 <cprofitt> I am working on the following HDYF articles: Alfonso Savio, Akinsa Akinwale, Kanika Muraka, Julita Inca, Amanda Carter, Ayoub Elyasir, and Jona Azizaj. 21:26:00 <ryanlerch> especially since we have been a little light on articles lately too 21:26:12 <stickster> cprofitt: that's AWESOME 21:26:15 <ryanlerch> cprofitt: wow 21:26:18 <cprofitt> I might be able to have two ready -- one for early and one for late. 21:26:19 <ryanlerch> cprofitt++ 21:26:38 <jflory7> cprofitt: Whoa, sweet! Some names I recognize in there too 21:26:49 <jflory7> A diverse lineup :) 21:26:51 <cprofitt> some were at Flock jflory7 21:26:55 <stickster> The other two "Pending Review" haven't moved since last meeting :-( 21:27:00 <mark_otaris> They have! 21:27:27 <mark_otaris> The Docker article, at least. 21:27:33 <stickster> No wait! 21:27:39 <stickster> *jinx 21:27:52 * stickster was relying on "last update" stamp and that is clearly wrong 21:28:00 <mark_otaris> Yes, the last modified date is a lie 21:28:15 <stickster> \o/ 21:28:22 <stickster> We have a winner for Wednesday I think 21:28:28 <ryanlerch> yay! 21:28:33 <stickster> ryanlerch: want to edit this one and get it ready for then? 21:28:44 <ryanlerch> stickster: ack! 21:28:44 <mark_otaris> JohnMH and I have had some troubles with LXC in Fedora, so we decided to swap the intended second (LXC) and third (Docker) articles. 21:28:48 <cprofitt> It would be nice to see a Docker article 21:28:48 <stickster> mark_otaris++ 21:28:51 <jflory7> And we have the featured image done for it too (well, 99% done). 21:28:54 <mark_otaris> And we got the Docker article ready a few weeks ago 21:28:58 <jflory7> mark_otaris++ JohnMH++ 21:29:02 <stickster> JohnMH++ 21:29:03 <cprofitt> mark_otaris++ 21:29:26 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Oh, and make sure to include this one in the post series with the previous one too :) 21:29:33 <stickster> #action ryanlerch to edit and schedule Docker article for Wed 2016-08-17 21:29:34 <cprofitt> JohnMH++ 21:29:34 <zodbot> cprofitt: Karma for johnmh changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:30:11 <mark_otaris> (FAS names can't contain underscores :-() 21:30:25 <cprofitt> do we still have to set the post series right before it is published? 21:30:40 <mark_otaris> I think so 21:30:47 <puiterwijk> mark_otaris: but you can set your irc nick in fas to contain underscore 21:30:57 <stickster> oh rats, is that a theme bug that could be fixed, ryanlerch? 21:30:58 <ryanlerch> #info ryanlerch to include docker post in post series 21:31:02 <stickster> or plugin bug 21:31:23 <ryanlerch> stickster: both actaully -- its a plugin built into the theme ;?/ 21:31:24 <cprofitt> I know when the HDYF articles were set in the series prior to publication they showed up in the list 21:31:41 <mark_otaris> In any case, it should be in the same series as https://fedoramagazine.org/container-technologies-fedora-systemd-nspawn/ 21:31:48 * ryanlerch thought he fixed it, but then it showed up again 21:31:52 <cprofitt> so I have been setting that just prior to publication or immediately following 21:32:29 <cprofitt> We need a feature image for the Docker article as well 21:32:45 <ryanlerch> i can do that as part of the review 21:32:51 * cprofitt nods 21:33:15 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to get the featured image for the docker article done 21:34:13 <stickster> cprofitt: Shall we schedule one of the HDYF for Friday? 21:34:41 <cprofitt> stickster: sure. 21:34:58 <mark_otaris> puiterwijk: I set the IRC nick. :-) 21:35:36 <stickster> #action cprofitt have a HDYF in the queue mid-week, for publishing on Friday 21:35:47 <stickster> cprofitt: I'll happily edit for you if you can provide it by ~Wed a.m. 21:36:23 <cprofitt> I the two that are the closest are Julita and alfonso 21:36:45 <cprofitt> so it will be one of those 21:37:13 <cprofitt> stickster: should be ready by late Sunday 21:37:43 <jflory7> Was that all that was left in the queue? 21:37:45 * jflory7 has something from cpacheco 21:37:47 * jflory7 thinks his connection is stuck 21:37:49 <jflory7> I think I missed some lines, had to restart my connection 21:38:54 <x3mboy> Hi team 21:39:03 <x3mboy> Sorry for being late 21:39:05 <cprofitt> hello x3mboy 21:39:08 <x3mboy> .fasinfo x3mboy 21:39:09 <zodbot> x3mboy: User: x3mboy, Name: Eduard Lucena, email: eduardlucena@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-11-28, IRC Nick: x3mboy, Timezone: America/Santiago, Locale: en, GPG key ID: DCDC2FFE, Status: active 21:39:12 <zodbot> x3mboy: Approved Groups: marketing magazine ambassadors cla_fpca cla_done 21:39:17 <jflory7> #chair x3mboy 21:39:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: cprofitt jflory7 mailga ryanlerch stickster x3mboy 21:39:29 <ryanlerch> hi x3mboy 21:39:41 <stickster> jflory7: Yeah, I wanted to get to that too 21:39:43 <jflory7> x3mboy: o/ 21:39:45 <x3mboy> ryanlerch, o/ 21:39:48 <x3mboy> jflory7, o/ 21:39:52 <x3mboy> cprofitt, o/ 21:40:07 <stickster> #info labbott has article in for review re: kernel, also -- will plan for following week 21:40:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: jflory7: Since we've cleared up the next week+ of publishing, would anyone object to a no-holds-barred slugfest of All Other Business/open floor? 21:40:57 <ryanlerch> no objections here! 21:41:04 <stickster> #topic All Other Business 21:41:09 <cprofitt> no objections from me 21:41:10 <ryanlerch> let's fill up the pitch queue! 21:41:14 <ryanlerch> :D 21:41:28 <cprofitt> ryanlerch: I have a potential pitch that I will put in soon 21:41:30 <stickster> jflory7: the feedback idea from cpacheco -- would you like to lead that? 21:41:33 <jflory7> Yep! 21:41:48 <jflory7> #info === Containers and Building Fedora Images === 21:41:49 <ryanlerch> cprofitt: awesome! 21:41:51 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/commops@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/2NZQNY6DNZZWDQ3PUO3CX6OCNZOK6TVD/ 21:42:03 <cprofitt> It is 'How did you discover Fedora' 21:42:11 <jflory7> It went to the CommOps mailing list, but cpacheco has what could be a three-part series almost entirely written up and ready to go 21:42:34 <jflory7> I haven't replied in the mailing list yet, but we touched base in IRC. 21:43:38 <jflory7> I told her that something like that would probably be great for the Magazine (the tech is a little bit over my head, though). 21:44:00 <ryanlerch> yeah, the pitch series looks pretty solid to me! 21:44:11 <stickster> it looks great to me, and perfect for the Mag 21:44:20 * stickster hopes to learn something from it 21:44:25 <ryanlerch> the tech is a bit over my head too, but is this sepereate from the other docker series we think? 21:44:25 <jflory7> Awesome :) 21:44:26 <x3mboy> That series goes perfect in Magazine 21:44:52 <jflory7> I can get back with her and ask her to put the three pieces as drafts in the Magazine, and we can work on getting them published. It would be nice to have a series all lined up and scheduled weeks ahead too. 21:45:33 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Touch base with cpacheco on the containers + imagefactory series idea, add as drafts into WordPress for editing and publishing soon 21:45:35 <stickster> jflory7: agreed -- we could get them all done at once, and schedule to go out once/week 21:45:46 <x3mboy> Do you mean like 3 tuesdays in a row? 21:45:51 <stickster> sure 21:45:53 <x3mboy> Or something like that??? 21:45:55 <jflory7> Mhmm 21:46:24 * mailga looks forward to read those articles. 21:46:26 <jflory7> And it use the fancy post series feature that ryanlerch worked in ;) 21:46:35 <x3mboy> :D 21:46:36 <jflory7> Anyways, eof on this pitch for me 21:46:41 <x3mboy> ryanlerch++ 21:46:42 <stickster> coolio, thanks jflory7 21:46:45 <stickster> jflory7++ 21:46:49 <x3mboy> jflory7++ 21:47:01 <ryanlerch> jflory7++ 21:47:02 <cprofitt> jflory7++ 21:47:15 <mailga> jflory++ 21:47:21 <mailga> jflory7++ 21:47:21 <jflory7> What will I do with all of these cookies??? 21:47:23 <zodbot> mailga: Karma for jflory7 changed to 37 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:47:37 <cprofitt> jflory7 eat some of them I hope 21:47:45 <stickster> #info === Article template === 21:47:48 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?page_id=13947&preview=1&_ppp=392ca3e0a5 21:47:59 <stickster> I started this at Flock and would like some review/comments 21:48:02 <jflory7> cprofitt: I'll have to share some of them around :) 21:48:03 * jflory7 clicks 21:48:48 <cprofitt> stickster: I like the concept of it... 21:49:09 <stickster> Reading it again, I think I may have been medicated when I wrote it 21:49:20 <x3mboy> stickster, I like the concept, but not all articles fits in a template. 21:49:42 <stickster> x3mboy: the point is not to template all articles. the point is to give a template for common "how to" articles which are a majority of what we publish 21:49:49 <jflory7> stickster: I think for technical how-to articles, this template would wor kwell 21:49:53 <jflory7> * work well 21:50:03 <ryanlerch> stickster: that is an awesome general template! 21:50:25 <jflory7> It makes sense to me and I think would be helpful for some new writers who want to contribute some knowledge to the Mag :) 21:50:30 <jflory7> stickster++ 21:50:36 <cprofitt> The ideas of some templates is good... I agree that some articles may deviate, but this will give a potential author a nice start 21:50:53 <ryanlerch> pointers to some well-structured posts might work well at the top too 21:51:01 <ryanlerch> to sorta see the template in action 21:51:05 <stickster> Yeah, deviation is fine -- I was told specifically by the OSDC editors that a template helped them with keeping their writers on-task 21:51:08 <cprofitt> I know when I started writing my GPG series I read a bunch of previous articles to get a flavor for how to write the series. 21:51:11 <jflory7> Oh, +1 to that 21:51:15 <stickster> that way first drafts were better, and saved the editors time too 21:51:24 <cprofitt> +1 stickster 21:51:27 <stickster> cprofitt: that's a great hint, yesh 21:51:27 <x3mboy> stickster, i looks ok 21:51:30 <x3mboy> stickster++ 21:51:42 <stickster> ryanlerch: ^^ also agreed 21:52:31 <stickster> #action stickster to update template page with (1) better title; (2) examples from published articles 21:52:45 <stickster> <eof/> 21:52:52 <ryanlerch> stickster++ 21:52:54 <jflory7> +1 21:53:11 <jflory7> Sounds good to me. 21:53:21 * jflory7 knows cprofitt also had a new series he wanted to pitch 21:56:21 <x3mboy> Guys i have some points i want to mention here 21:56:43 <jflory7> cprofitt: Want to go over your pitch really quick? 21:56:51 <jflory7> x3mboy: Should be able to fit them in 21:56:58 * stickster has to bail in 4 min but can hand gavel to jflory7 21:57:40 <jflory7> x3mboy: If you want to go ahead for now, we can revisit with cprofitt in a minute. 21:57:58 <x3mboy> jflory7, ok 21:58:00 <x3mboy> First one 21:58:12 <x3mboy> Bring the idea of the downloadable version again 21:58:50 <stickster> Like a PDF? 21:58:58 <x3mboy> stickster, yes 21:59:09 <stickster> Is there a WordPress plugin we could use for that? 21:59:20 <x3mboy> stickster, the idea is to make a compilation of articles, not to write new content 21:59:23 <x3mboy> stickster, yes 21:59:26 * ryanlerch is still not sure we have the hands to do a downloadable version justice, tbh 21:59:59 <x3mboy> https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/233 22:00:10 <x3mboy> Use this to check the ideas 22:00:47 <x3mboy> For now i've been testing IssueM with wordpress and the results are ok. But for now i need to continue testing it 22:01:33 <jflory7> x3mboy: If you could upload screenshots or example PDFs to the ticket, that would be awesome too, for comparison! 22:01:51 <x3mboy> Of course, when i have more test done, i will 22:02:03 * mailga has the same thought as ryanlerch. 22:02:32 <jflory7> Cool – it would be easier for me to decide on it if I had an example of what the output product was and also how automated it is to produce that kind of output 22:02:52 <stickster> yeah, agreed 22:03:37 <x3mboy> Also, i've been talking with kohane, and maybe if we decide to make it, we can have help from design team to get a cover of the magazine pdf edition. 22:03:44 <jflory7> I'd hate for us to commit to it and then have it be forgotten about weeks later because someone forgot to follow up with generating / putting the PDF out. 22:03:58 <x3mboy> jflory7, agreed 22:04:20 * stickster has to run, and hands jflory7 gavel 22:04:24 <jflory7> stickster: o/ 22:04:29 <jflory7> Enjoy your evening! 22:04:40 <jflory7> x3mboy: Mind if I give you an action on that one? 22:04:49 <x3mboy> Please, do it 22:05:08 <jflory7> #action x3mboy Attach a PDF example of output to the ticket with details about how automated the process is to produce that type of content 22:05:17 <jflory7> Anything else to cover? 22:05:22 <x3mboy> Yes 22:05:27 <jflory7> Go for it! 22:05:55 <x3mboy> I sent an email regarding "The firsts steps to write in the magazine" 22:06:44 <x3mboy> Basically, it's a little hard to answer introduction emails because there is too much places to guide newcomers 22:06:54 <x3mboy> And, IMHO, not all info is available 22:07:13 <x3mboy> Please, take a look and comment... 22:07:24 <x3mboy> Oh, too bad stickster goes 22:07:30 <jflory7> x3mboy: Looks like stickster did swing a reply a bit ago – I haven't had a chance to look yet. 22:07:40 <x3mboy> I want to ask him, why is he against the wiki? 22:07:44 * jflory7 will try to weigh in soon 22:07:46 <x3mboy> Yes, i read it 22:07:51 <jflory7> I think I can answer that one 22:07:59 <ryanlerch> x3mboy: is this needing extending? 22:08:01 <ryanlerch> https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/ 22:08:18 <x3mboy> ryanlerch, yes, but is my opinion 22:08:29 <jflory7> It's not that we're against the wiki, but that's not where we are consistently updating information for those wanting to contribute. I think stickster's point was to maybe make the wiki a better reflection of where to find the content we are curating and maintaining for bringing new writers in. 22:08:48 <jflory7> I'd prefer to have big, bold links to the Magazine pages on the wiki 22:08:49 <x3mboy> For example, the info here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Howtopost regarding the tool is good 22:09:10 * jflory7 didn't know that page was there 22:09:23 <jflory7> #help Wiki gardening: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Howtopost 22:09:43 <x3mboy> I think is a good wiki page, but is bad structured... 22:10:00 <jflory7> Actually, once stickster's guide is complete, we could probably defer this wiki page to the Magazine page 22:10:08 <ryanlerch> TBH, i didnt reliase there was any magazine content on the wiki either 22:10:12 <mailga> jflory7: +1 22:10:22 <jflory7> Some of the basics are covered in there right now, but it's definitely not current for how we're doing things right now 22:10:37 <x3mboy> Other point missing everywhere, and that had been discussed here, is about content 22:10:55 <mailga> that page was created at starting point by mitzie. 22:11:06 <mailga> is out of date. 22:11:45 <x3mboy> Normally we have this rule: talk about FOSS or no FOSS, but legal is OK. No legal NOK 22:12:09 <ryanlerch> yeah, i think this content is better on the magazine, and remove old crufty stuff from the wiki all together 22:12:52 <x3mboy> But that's not mentioned anywhere, and we already rejects one article (Plex server or something like that) because there are not rules in about what can i write in the magazine 22:13:22 <ryanlerch> x3mboy: that is also why we do the pitch process, TBH 22:13:31 <mailga> ryanlerch: I thinks that all contents magazine related should be placed in the magazine itself, using the wiki only for linking mag pages. IMO 22:13:46 <ryanlerch> to review and catch these things before an article is written 22:13:49 <jflory7> I know stickster wrote a big email to the list about this – it would be nice to take some points from that email and incorporate them into some of our pages we have. 22:14:55 <jflory7> #help Better covering tips for content in our "getting started" pages (see: stickster's email regarding appropriate content, e.g. FOSS/legal/legally ambiguous/etc.) 22:15:33 <x3mboy> EOF 22:15:57 <jflory7> I think that's something I can try to work on in coming weeks 22:16:12 <x3mboy> Oh, one question 22:16:21 <jflory7> I agree that having that info more visible would be helpful for writers in terms of knowing what they can or cannot write about 22:16:39 <jflory7> Even with us having the pitch process, it could save disappointment if people know ahead of time that a particular thing cannot be covered 22:16:42 <x3mboy> It's possible to edit an article already published, but not publish the changes??? 22:17:17 <jflory7> x3mboy: Right now, that's not possible. You could "duplicate" an article and do it that way, but there's no way to have edits for an already published article without pushing them live. 22:17:44 <x3mboy> jflory7, GTK, thanks 22:17:51 <jflory7> Yep! 22:17:54 <jflory7> No problem. 22:18:22 <jflory7> Okay, we're going on 20 minutes over – I think I'll go ahead and close out the meeting, and anything else we cover in #fedora-mktg. :) 22:18:36 <jflory7> Thanks for coming out today, everyone! 22:18:43 <x3mboy> Thanks 22:18:48 <jflory7> See you all next week... 22:18:49 <jflory7> #endmeeting