05:11:17 <pjp> #startmeeting APAC Ambassador's meeting, 19 Aug 2016
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05:11:57 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
05:11:58 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in>
05:12:02 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
05:12:04 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
05:12:15 <hanthana> .fas snavin
05:12:16 <zodbot> hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka@gmail.com>
05:12:41 <pjp> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic
05:12:50 <pjp> #topic Roll call
05:12:54 <pjp> .fas pjp
05:12:55 <zodbot> pjp: pankaj16 'pankaj joshi' <pjpj1693@yopmail.com> - pjp '' <pj.pandit@yahoo.co.in> - crewab 'flore crew' <eepjpgq0.qs3@20mail.it> - sandeepj 'sandeepj' <sandeepjp22@gmail.com> - pjpedro 'PJ Pedro' <pjpedro@rogers.com>
05:13:34 <paragan> Hi
05:13:58 <kushal> pjp, you are late :)
05:14:21 <praveenkumar> .fas kumarpraveen
05:14:22 <zodbot> praveenkumar: kumarpraveen '' <kumarpraveen.nitdgp@gmail.com>
05:16:30 <pjp> Do we have any specific topics or start with open tickets ?
05:16:40 <kushal> I have one.
05:17:58 <kushal> I have sent out few mails to the community card holder + budget holder for updates.
05:18:33 <kushal> I have created a spreadsheet to maintain the amount we already spent, and already approved for events.
05:18:41 <kushal> But I never received any updates.
05:19:06 <kushal> In this state no one can verify the budget status of APAC.
05:19:26 <gnokii> kushal: because thats the job for the logistician, I told you many times before
05:19:41 <kushal> One suggestion we have is to move the card to PJP.
05:19:53 <kushal> gnokii, We all are supposed to know about budget.
05:20:28 <pjp> I've raised an internal query at RH, am yet to receive any updates
05:20:47 <gnokii> pjp that are two different shoes
05:20:49 <kushal> pjp, The decision has to be made by APAC ambassadors.
05:21:02 <kushal> pjp, If we ask, RH will move the card to you.
05:21:17 <kushal> But we have to make a decision first.
05:21:24 <pjp> kushal: gnokii Yes,
05:21:34 <pjp> kushal: I'm okay with it,
05:21:49 <kushal> gnokii, paragan praveenkumar what do you think about it?
05:22:38 <gnokii> I think before here anything is moved to somebody else I want to hear the other side
05:23:01 <paragan> +1 to kushal let's have someone else holding the card, if pjp wants he can own it
05:23:20 <praveenkumar> +1 to have someone else for the card.
05:23:39 <gnokii> so far is the transfer from treasurer aka tuanta to logistician not done
05:23:40 <paragan> good to have some rotation to this work
05:23:44 <kushal> gnokii, to heard any thing first Izhar has to come down to the meetings.
05:24:07 <pjp> gnokii: Treasurer is Izar
05:24:15 <gnokii> pjp wrong
05:24:24 <gnokii> https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-treasurer
05:24:43 <kushal> Look at the amount of confusion.
05:25:01 <paragan> don't we have something this written in some wiki page for APAC?
05:25:07 <pjp> gnokii: See regional delegates -> https://budget.fedoraproject.org/
05:25:34 <paragan> ah this is nice
05:25:42 <paragan> all information at one place
05:25:47 <gnokii> pjp: read right transfer from treasurer to logistician
05:26:06 <praveenkumar> yes looks like Izhar is the Treasures not tuanta.
05:26:14 <pjp> gnokii:  treasurer aka tuanta
05:26:39 <gnokii> exactly he was the treasurer before you became the logistician
05:26:51 <gnokii> and he did his job in the night before FAD always
05:28:53 <pjp> I thought it was Izhar always, as he held the card
05:30:46 <paragan> well whoever is paying the reimbursement, isn't that person a treasurer?
05:31:55 <pjp> Anyways, it'd help me to have the card to do larger expenses,
05:32:44 <gnokii> pjp we go ahead with what we discussed anything else will just bring more damage
05:33:53 <pjp> gnokii: ie RH card ? I've raised it internally, yet to receive a reply. In case that does not realise, we still need an option
05:34:45 <gnokii> pjp when this solution is no option, then I can go again
05:37:39 <pjp> Okay,
05:38:21 <pjp> Next topic ?
05:38:39 <nuwan600> .fas nuwan600
05:38:40 <zodbot> nuwan600: nuwan600 '' <nuwan600@gmail.com>
05:39:05 <gnokii> pjp: sure
05:41:32 <kushal> So what is the about the pending reimbursements?
05:41:38 <kushal> * what is about
05:41:55 <pjp> kushal: Need to ping Izhar,
05:42:06 <kushal> pjp, he never replied to a single mail
05:42:11 <pjp> I know
05:42:58 <kushal> pjp, for example https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/230
05:43:00 <paragan> hope to see with budget portal, everything gets transparent to the level that anyone can view anytime the remaining budget/reimbursement paid/pending details
05:43:19 <Nuwan> .fas nuwan600
05:43:20 <zodbot> Nuwan: nuwan600 '' <nuwan600@gmail.com>
05:43:21 <kushal> paragan, nope, I can not see that happening.
05:43:46 <paragan> ah then that will be the problem to understand the budget details till we get something realtime
05:43:47 <pjp> paragan: Yes, that's the idea
05:43:50 <gnokii> kushal: you want an answer?
05:44:04 <kushal> gnokii, I asked.
05:45:27 <kushal> For record: this is the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c452Q7D34J-5RIkiKiX_guvetHvvzmITk9bgmR_ebDE/edit?usp=sharing
05:45:55 <gnokii> first, there was an agreement long time ago no report no reimbursment, so when pjp sets it to reimbursement without have it linked there is something wrong
05:46:41 <gnokii> second, the problem we have if the card is empty its empty, so the payment gets delayed we agreed for that with jzb on a solution for the future
05:46:56 <pjp> gnokii: there is event report linked in the ticket
05:46:59 <kushal> gnokii, who is going to tell us that the card is empty?
05:47:13 <gnokii> ooh sorry didnt see it then
05:48:16 <gnokii> kushal: I tell you thats why eg for an event much earlier as your rootconf pravins is already reimbursed and the other person not
05:48:54 <kushal> gnokii, the card holder is supposed to mention that in the ticket.
05:49:34 <kushal> gnokii, and you are telling that in 4 months there was no budget to pay for this?
05:49:51 <gnokii> that can happen
05:50:17 <kushal> gnokii, we are speculating as no information came for the card holder.
05:51:30 <kushal> We just now received an update.
05:51:36 <kushal> The card is empty as of now.
05:51:38 <kushal> Good.
05:51:45 <gnokii> kushal: its no speculation, just read a bit the ambassador list kital saying something to this just yesterday and thats a known issue and we already have a solution for it
05:51:52 <paragan> izhar replied to ticket just now
05:51:55 <kushal> Yes.
05:52:44 <gnokii> yeah but kushal to be honest, go to the end of the queue
05:53:25 <gnokii> so even she will be filled, it will be empty very soon again as there are many other tickets pending that are older then yours
05:55:16 <paragan> good to apply first come first serve policy
05:55:46 <pjp> We are running out of time,
05:55:57 <pjp> 5 mins to conclude meeting
05:56:23 <pjp> Any other topics for discussion ?
05:56:37 <pjp> #topic open floor
05:56:59 <gnokii> pjp well there would be some announcements
05:57:31 <pjp> gnokii: Announcements ?
05:57:46 <gnokii> sure you dont want to have date for FUDCon?
05:57:48 <kushal> On another point: I have nominated sankarshan as a mentor (Ambassador) to FAMA.
05:58:11 <kushal> For India that is.
05:59:40 <hanthana> who should approve it?
06:00:34 <gnokii> well just in case, somebody wants to know it will be 4.-6. November 2016
06:00:41 <gnokii> call will go out next week
06:02:47 <pjp> gnokii: Excellent! That's great! :)
06:02:58 <pjp> hanthana: Any updates about FUDCon in Sri Lanka ?
06:03:11 <pjp> I think we should take that to the list
06:03:16 <gnokii> we will change the venue from ITC to Norton
06:03:24 <pjp> I see,
06:03:37 <pjp> We are past the due closing time,
06:03:59 <pjp> I'll conclude the meeting for today, see you again next time and thank you so much for joining in.
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06:04:32 <pjp> #endmeeting