13:01:31 #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2016-10-11) 13:01:31 Meeting started Tue Oct 11 13:01:31 2016 UTC. The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:31 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:01:31 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_meeting_(2016-10-11)' 13:01:46 #meetingname marketing 13:01:46 The meeting name has been set to 'marketing' 13:02:03 #topic Agenda 13:02:15 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2016-10-11 13:02:25 #topic Roll Call 13:02:35 #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas 13:02:51 Who is all with us this fine day? 13:03:21 #info Brian Proffitt; UTC-4; Social media 13:04:33 .hello pfrields 13:04:35 stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' 13:05:01 lurking here since the Beta release is happening imminently 13:05:02 * mailga around... 13:05:16 #chair stickster mailga 13:05:16 Current chairs: bkp mailga stickster 13:05:31 Hi! 13:06:00 #chair bkm_ 13:06:00 Current chairs: bkm_ bkp mailga stickster 13:06:11 Hey, bkm_ ! 13:06:29 Lurk away, stickster 13:06:31 * FranciscoD will sit quietely in a corner and watch :) 13:07:16 * Southern_Gentlem seeding beta torrents 13:07:29 Welcome FranciscoD 13:07:37 Okay, let's roll 13:07:47 #topic Announcements 13:07:57 #info === Fedora 25 Beta to go out today === 13:08:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_Beta_release_announcement 13:08:18 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_Beta_release_announcement 13:08:32 #info More links to announcements to follow 13:09:19 #info The wiki release announcment will be the basis for the upcoming Fedora Magazine article, and mattdm has written a separate blog that will appear in Red Hat's blog. 13:10:21 #info Things will be published later today. Please be active on social media to get the work out! 13:10:40 ++ 13:10:49 That's it for announcements this week. Any comments/questions? 13:11:35 I have one 13:12:01 mailga: Shoot 13:12:58 .fas x3mboy 13:12:59 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 13:13:08 #chair x3mboy 13:13:08 Current chairs: bkm_ bkp mailga stickster x3mboy 13:13:21 can I say I'd like to see a release announcement less technical? End users are not interested to the version of sw. IMO They'd like to see which improvement they can have... 13:13:22 bkp o/ 13:14:05 for the rest there are the release notes. EOF 13:14:31 mailga: I think that is a good point, and for a general release announcement, I think the tenor of the announcement should be less tech and more benefits and a better story. 13:15:25 I will say the actual announcement going out on FM is a bit more polished. But your point still stands. 13:16:07 bkp: I'm not seeing that tech is not important. Only that the first impact should be more readable to end users. 13:16:17 mailga: +1, understood 13:16:24 s/seeing/saying 13:17:00 I think that's a great topic for process and objectives. 13:17:18 Let's table till open floor? 13:17:30 #topic Action items from last meetings 13:17:37 #link https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-04/marketing.2016-10-04-13.00.txt 13:17:52 #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 13:18:01 #info === COMPLETE bkp will draft F25 beta release announcement today or tomorrow, and create new ticket (#240) === 13:18:14 #info === jflory7 to review pending FedoraHosted article (#238) === 13:18:43 jflory7: Update? 13:19:46 He may be out of pocket. 13:19:52 #info === bkp to get clarification on marketing and how it related to export policy === 13:20:25 This was based on an inquiry from bkm_ . I have not done this yet, due to travel last week. 13:20:35 #info === x3mboy to inquire about moving issues 208, 233, and 239 to Magazine pagure === 13:20:47 x3mboy: Update? 13:21:18 bkp, yes, for now, there will be a query to both ML to discuss 13:22:14 #info x3mboy has made inquiries to both marketing and FM mailing lists for discussion 13:22:26 The comment is that Magazine doesn't have Pagure so, if the decission is to split magazine issues from Marketing issues, we need to follow the steps to make a request for that 13:23:28 I will start a ML discussion today 13:23:42 #info The comment is that Magazine doesn't have Pagure so, if the decission is to split magazine issues from Marketing issues, we need to follow the steps to make a request for that. Discussion to start today. 13:23:50 x3mboy++ 13:23:50 bkp: Karma for x3mboy changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:24:07 #topic Tickets 13:24:15 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issues?tags=meeting 13:24:31 #info === Ticket #231 === 13:24:31 #info "Create Fedora 25 talking points" 13:24:31 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/231 13:24:31 #info Completed 13:24:32 #action jflory7 mark #231 as complete 13:24:44 Pretty much going to call that one done. 13:25:23 #info === Ticket #235 === 13:25:34 #info "Marketing group list FAS cleaning" 13:25:35 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/235 13:25:36 #info mailga posted a list of people who may be inactive, asking for review. Some feedback given, deadline for all feedback is today's meeting, so please see ticket. 13:25:53 mailga: Anything to add? 13:25:57 I was just waiting for this meeting. I saw the jflory7 notes, and if no one has else to say, before the end of the week I will send emails. 13:26:25 Nothing from me, i doesn't know anybody in that list 13:26:44 Nor I 13:27:19 ok, I'll wait till tomorrow, then what's done is done. 13:27:27 #action mailga to send out emails to potentially inactive members by the end of this week. 13:27:44 mailga++ 13:27:54 mailga++ 13:28:41 #info === Ticket #238 === 13:28:41 #info "Write an article on impact of Fedorahosted migration and what systems/processes were effected" 13:28:44 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/238 13:28:59 * mailga brb 13:29:11 #info Still in review? 13:30:39 Still no Amita or jflory7 So we will have to get and update later. 13:30:53 #info === Ticket #240 === 13:30:53 #info "Create F25 Beta Announcement" 13:30:54 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/240 13:30:54 #info Completed, will go out today. Will mark as complete. 13:31:16 Cool! 13:31:22 #info stickster and mattdm are doing last-minute review now. 13:31:42 Like right now. In #fedora-mktg 13:32:45 #topic Upcoming Tasks 13:32:53 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-marketing-tasks.html 13:33:03 #info Beta Release Public Availability (Tue 2016-10-11) 13:33:03 #info Update and freeze the screenshots page (Tue 2016-10-25) 13:33:03 #info Email WGs to solicit bullet points for GA release announcement (Mon 2016-10-24) 13:33:06 #info Marketing: Final Screen Shots (Tue 2016-11-01) 13:33:34 Sorry for the weird characters. As you can see, there is plenty to do for GA. 13:33:47 Any takers for the screenshots? 13:36:46 Well, take a look and let the list know if you want to volunteer. 13:36:57 #topic Open Floor 13:37:12 Anythng for open discussion? 13:37:40 Sorry - seems connection broke down 13:37:55 bkp: Did you find anything? 13:38:40 bkm_: On the export question? No, I did not get a chance to ask. 13:38:58 ! 13:39:13 'Sup x3mboy ? 13:39:27 I'm running test for the issue 239 13:40:00 Is more related to Magazine, so we should discuss it 13:40:15 In magazine meeting??? 13:40:24 https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/239 13:41:10 bkp also is the docs team grabbing screenshots as well, maybe someone should ask so people are not duplicating the samething? 13:41:34 Southern_Gentlem: I can check. 13:41:41 x3mboy: Looking... 13:41:53 they usually have screenshots for their docs 13:42:30 I make the comment because Magazine Meeting runs out of time with article reviews 13:42:32 x3mboy: Probably discuss there; that's very magazine-specific 13:42:50 x3mboy: Is there an agenda point for bugs? 13:43:06 Because that seems like an infra problem, not a contant problem. 13:43:13 s/contant/content 13:43:21 No, there is not 13:43:34 Even the name of the meeting remarks that is editorial meeting 13:43:51 Hm. 13:44:27 x3mboy: I think this is something we should ask jflory7 because now I am not sure. 13:44:41 bkp, ok, I will 13:44:59 Ok, there is nothing else from me 13:45:08 x3mboy: Sorry to defer; I just thought they would have handled their own infra/design issues, too. 13:45:45 #action x3mboy will check to see who will handle issue #237 (Magazine or Marketing) 13:46:02 bkp, it's 239 13:46:22 #action bkp will see if the Desktop group is gathering screenshots we can use for marketing purposes. 13:46:39 #action x3mboy will check to see who will handle issue #239 (Magazine or Marketing) 13:46:44 And np, I think this need to be handled by infra too, because CommBlog have the same issue 13:46:53 s/have/has 13:47:03 I don't like to see red link here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_activities so 1) erase the dupes 2) let the link get blue. IMO. We had a discussion time ago, and we decided the screenshots have to be available in the mktg page. 13:48:34 mailga: They will be available in the marketing page. But if Desktop has gathered them for their docs already, we might be able to save some time. 13:48:41 Or, they can use ours. 13:48:51 Either way, no reinvention of the wheel. 13:49:18 bkp: right; sharing resources. 13:49:48 #action Release Activities page needs to be updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_activities 13:50:43 Any other issues? 13:50:54 nope 13:50:58 NOpe 13:51:01 Will volunteer for export 13:51:39 bkm_: You would need to contact our legal department, I think. 13:52:05 bkm_: How about you send me the exact question you have and I can forward it to them? 13:52:18 bkp: Ok. Will do! 13:52:49 Good stuff today, all! 13:53:36 And I see from the discussion on #fedora-mktg that the beta announcement is about to go live. So, without further adieu... 13:53:41 #endmeeting