13:03:09 <Rhea> #startmeeting Fedora DotNet (2016-11-04)
13:03:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Nov 11 13:03:09 2016 UTC.  The chair is Rhea. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:03:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_dotnet_(2016-11-04)'
13:03:15 <Rhea> #meetingname dotnet
13:03:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'dotnet'
13:03:20 <Rhea> #nick dotnet
13:03:26 <Rhea> #topic Agenda
13:03:34 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:DotNet_2016-11-11
13:03:38 <Rhea> #info (1) Roll Call
13:03:41 <Rhea> #info (2) Announcements
13:03:46 <Rhea> #info (3) Action items from our previous meeting
13:03:49 <Rhea> #info (4) Tickets
13:03:52 <Rhea> #info (7) Open Floor
13:03:57 <Rhea> #topic Roll Call
13:04:01 <Rhea> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
13:04:13 <Rhea> #action dotnet New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the DotNet mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DotNet ]
13:04:15 <Rhea> If this is your first time at a DotNet meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
13:04:19 <Rhea> .hello rhea
13:04:20 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com>
13:04:21 <Rhea> :D
13:04:24 <tpokorra> .hello tpokorra
13:04:25 <zodbot> tpokorra: tpokorra 'Timotheus Pokorra' <timotheus.pokorra@solidcharity.com>
13:04:35 <rkieley> .hello rkieley
13:04:36 <Rhea> #info Radka Janek; UTC+1; CommOps, Diversity, DotNet,...
13:04:36 <zodbot> rkieley: Sorry, but you don't exist
13:04:52 <Rhea> rip
13:04:56 <rkieley> still a ghost it seems... what do I need to do to fix that? :)
13:05:34 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
13:05:35 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
13:05:36 <Rhea> It's'looking for the parameter in the fedora account system (FAS)
13:05:51 <Rhea> rkieley: basically, this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet/Join
13:05:56 <rkieley> k I've got something amiss there then, will take a look
13:05:57 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S;UTC-6;Commops, Metrics, Packaging and more.
13:06:15 <bt0> Hello Everybody o/
13:06:41 * Rhea waves intensively
13:06:48 <Rhea> okay sooo
13:06:51 <rkieley> .hello roddiekieley
13:06:52 <zodbot> rkieley: roddiekieley 'Roddie Kieley' <rkieley@unifiedsoftworx.com>
13:06:58 <rkieley> better
13:06:58 <Rhea> #topic Announcements
13:07:00 <Rhea> Nothing else from me, does anyone have anything to add?
13:07:13 <Rhea> For announcements i mean..
13:07:24 <Rhea> I didn't see anything interesting happening on the dotnet scene...
13:07:29 <bt0> no
13:08:02 <Rhea> omajid packaged 1.1 for RH this week, but he's missing it seems, I wanted to ask whether it's the preview1 or he went from the source
13:08:31 <Rhea> I was a bit too busy so I didn't look at it.. oh well
13:09:05 <rkieley> me neither :(
13:09:17 <Rhea> #topic Action items from our previous meeting
13:09:18 <Rhea> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
13:09:29 <Rhea> #info === [INCOMPLETE] Rhea Create a ticket about updating Fedora developer website with info about dotnet. ===
13:09:31 <Rhea> #action Rhea Create a ticket about updating Fedora developer website with info about dotnet.
13:10:21 <Rhea> I did not poke about that, I'll take a look at the process about that later next week, will be smarter then :P
13:10:38 <tpokorra> I did that for the mono pages, you let me know if you have questions
13:10:56 <Rhea> Oh awesome
13:11:16 <Rhea> If I understand that correctly, we have to file a ticket with infra right?
13:11:22 <tpokorra> we probably have to share the space under c# anyway between mono and dotnet
13:11:33 <tpokorra> you can do a pull request against that website repo
13:11:40 <Rhea> Oh even easier
13:11:41 <tpokorra> it is on github I thinkg
13:11:47 <rkieley> that would make sense, and probably good from an end developer pov
13:11:52 <Rhea> Yeah I'll take a look at it
13:11:56 <Rhea> Yep
13:12:05 <tpokorra> https://github.com/developer-portal/content
13:12:08 <Rhea> That should contain info about using dotnet in fedora...
13:12:52 <Rhea> Okay moving on
13:13:01 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Split the wiki page into wiki/dotnet which will contain info about dotnet in general, running it on Fedora, current limitations, known issues and workaround; and wiki/SIGs/dotnet with organization side of things. ===
13:13:02 <Rhea> #info Marked this as complete, for now, we will keep this in the ticket. (more info under next topic)
13:13:10 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] dotnet Import the meeting to your calendar. ===
13:13:13 <Rhea> #info Please if you haven't done so, make sure to add the meeting to your calendar.
13:13:37 <Rhea> Please if you haven't fixed the meeting thing in your calendar, do so, and actually nect action item is relevant
13:13:45 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Create another email about meeting time to make sure that people can attend. ===
13:13:47 <Rhea> #info If you did not reply to my email, today would be the time, so we can maybe fix the time next week...
13:14:08 <Rhea> I'll also reply to it to remind people... :p
13:14:19 <Rhea> I don't see this time working simply
13:14:21 <rkieley> is it still between this time slot and tuesday 7pm utc?
13:14:50 <Rhea> We are missing Omajid, Takayoshi, Dave is hiding somewhere, ...
13:14:57 <Rhea> Not coowl
13:15:12 <rkieley> yeah pretty early for omajid and dave I think
13:15:22 <Rhea> rkieley: yes, i mean if we happen to discover anything else, sure i'll be happy with almost any time...
13:15:46 <bt0> here are 7am :( but i dont have problem with changes
13:16:49 <Rhea> I think that 7pm is just so much better, it works for US/EU well, the only thing that it won't work for is india, and Japan will be really early...
13:17:01 <Rhea> But considering that we have zero people in india
13:17:04 <Rhea> and one in Japan
13:17:07 <Rhea> we are cool
13:17:10 <rkieley> better balance for sure
13:17:19 <Rhea> (better than right now, missing 3 US people)
13:17:27 <tpokorra> 7pm is ok for me
13:17:46 <Rhea> Yeah will throw in another email after the meeting...
13:17:55 <rkieley> 7pm is good here too
13:18:11 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Create an issue in pageure to keep track of our libicu progress. ===
13:18:30 <Rhea> (more info under tickets topic)
13:18:40 <Rhea> #info === [INCOMPLETE] dotnet Discuss dpendencies and modularity. ===
13:18:57 <Rhea> I don't know if you guys have anything to add to deps/modularity here...
13:19:19 <Rhea> omajid and moto-timo were chatting about it iirc, neither one is present :<
13:19:33 <Rhea> RAWR
13:19:38 <Rhea> This meeting time sucks
13:19:40 <Rhea> :D
13:19:48 <rkieley> unfortunately no, only got a chance to skim the github issue where the problem was being addressed for f24?
13:20:02 <Rhea> #action dotnet Discuss dpendencies and modularity.
13:20:43 <Rhea> rkieley: If i understand it correctly, the 1.1 was supposed to have it fixed - but it is not fixed in the preview1 that is out... There is a pull request or something for the libicu dependency issue though
13:21:01 <rkieley> Rhea: https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/pull/7773?
13:21:13 <Rhea> I hope that they make it into 1.1 release, it would make our life easier
13:21:29 <Rhea> Yep that's the one i think
13:21:30 <rkieley> no doubt there
13:21:41 <rkieley> ran into the same trouble when trying to use powershell and msbuild
13:21:48 <rkieley> which makes sense
13:22:14 <Rhea> I'm kinda tempted to look at the code and all, like... why on earth was this a thing in the first place :D
13:22:47 <Rhea> #topic Tickets
13:22:49 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issues?tags=meeting
13:22:55 <Rhea> #info === Ticket #4 ===
13:22:57 <Rhea> #info === "libicu" ===
13:22:59 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issue/4
13:23:03 <Rhea> We just talked about that..
13:23:06 <rkieley> someone probably saved some time when working toward task completion I'd bet
13:23:06 <Rhea> :]
13:23:15 <Rhea> Yeah maybe
13:23:37 <Rhea> "uh to make this work independent on version would take me 20 minutes to implement while i can cheat like this and do it in 5... mkay"
13:23:48 <Rhea> :D
13:23:57 <bt0> jeje :D
13:23:58 <Rhea> #info === Ticket #5 ===
13:24:00 <Rhea> #info === "Wiki page" ===
13:24:10 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issue/5
13:24:12 <Rhea> #info bt0 created Join page with some additional info that I missed, I went through all the pages again for another pass. We will need to come up with info for the wiki/dotnet page after we've got some packages...
13:24:20 <rkieley> cheating--
13:24:28 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DotNet
13:24:32 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet
13:24:37 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet/Join
13:25:09 <Rhea> I'm gonna see if I can come up with some small info about "how to use dotnet in fedora" which we can use for both the dev page, and wiki...
13:25:40 <rkieley> summarizing the status re: f23/f24/f25 might be useful too
13:25:53 <bt0> yeah... Maybe a little I was impulsive
13:25:53 <Rhea> Not sure if I'll make it next week tho, hopefull it will be a bit more relaxed - I had a lot of extra stuff these two weeks due to taking over some other tasks from people who were busy with exams in one way or another (students/teachers)
13:26:17 <Rhea> rkieley +1
13:26:47 <bt0> rkieley +1
13:28:03 <bt0> Rhea, if you have some ideas about "how to use dotnet" I will write a draft and post in the ticket
13:28:11 <Rhea> #agreed Will add info about current status of dotnet in Fedora, how to install it for different versions (if its ok - rhea find out which sources we can use) and some basic info about using cli.
13:28:36 <Rhea> Yup
13:29:19 <Rhea> by sources i mean where can we tell people to download stuffs... speaking of which
13:29:34 <Rhea> Which copr was working and which one wasn't, tpokorra?
13:29:54 <Rhea> Yours was working?
13:29:55 <tpokorra> my copr was just an experiment. It never worked
13:30:11 <Rhea> Oh okay so it was Nemanja
13:30:19 <Rhea> speaking of - another person who's missing today
13:30:22 <Rhea> >_<
13:30:25 <tpokorra> yes, his copr just packaged the binaries
13:30:48 <tpokorra> download the Microsoft dotnet package, create a tarball of the binaries, upload to copr
13:31:13 <Rhea> Well, he used the libicu from f23 to get it working on 24
13:31:16 <Rhea> or something like that
13:31:17 <tpokorra> ah, ok
13:31:21 <tpokorra> I did not test it
13:31:44 <Rhea> heh neither did i... i always ran vagrant with rhel for my dotnet-poking
13:31:45 * pcreech late
13:31:53 * Rhea waves
13:32:30 <Rhea> Actually that's it for today from my side.. :D
13:32:32 <Rhea> #topic Open Floor
13:32:43 <Rhea> Kinda quick meeting due to peeeeeps missing...
13:32:58 <Rhea> But, I still think that it's better than nothing, at least it keeps us awake
13:33:17 <bt0> agree
13:33:22 <Rhea> Frankly I wouldn't even touch dotnet if it wasn't for the meeting, so yey
13:33:25 <Rhea> :D
13:33:28 <rkieley> true... seems like we still need more info on the libicu issue
13:34:11 <Rhea> We should pester them on github to find out if they will make it into 1.1 release or not... and i'd love to know "when"
13:35:33 <Rhea> mkay, i'm gonna jump on the email right away then, and we can end this
13:35:37 <Rhea> sorry pcreech :D
13:35:47 <pcreech> np, my fault for waking up late :)
13:35:51 <Rhea> #endmeeting