06:00:14 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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06:00:15 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
06:00:15 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:15 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-01-04
06:00:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:20 <suanand> hi..
06:00:22 <mfabian> Hi ☺
06:00:44 <epico> hi
06:00:54 <pravins> hi 😊
06:00:59 <tagoh_> hi
06:01:05 <paragan> #chair suanand mfabian epico pravins tagoh_
06:01:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:01:41 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:02:02 <paragan> we have this upcoming milestone for F26
06:02:06 <paragan> #info 2017-01-10 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
06:02:21 <paragan> let's discuss on this in next topic
06:02:30 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issue
06:02:36 <paragan> #info #69: Fedora 26 planning
06:02:37 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69
06:04:01 <paragan> Does anyone have any ideas to submit as a Change for Fedora 26?
06:04:39 <pravins> what is present status from change proposal? how many idea proposed
06:05:40 <paragan> for us I see 2 ideas only transdiff and color emoji
06:06:10 <mfabian> paragan: colour emoji would be really nice
06:06:15 <pravins> i saw, tagoh_ also has proposed change for fontconfig.
06:06:27 <tagoh_> yep
06:07:06 <paragan> tagoh_, Can you add comment to https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69 ?
06:07:16 <paragan> with the link to your Change proposal
06:08:13 <suanand> paragan, pravins, transdiff is in progress. do I need to add anything here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1357391 :)
06:09:06 <pravins> for color emoji as of now, we do not have any taker. Dunno if anyone from Gnome side interested or can we takeover.
06:09:13 <tagoh_> paragan: added
06:09:13 <paragan> suanand, I will check with jkurik on that
06:09:26 <paragan> tagoh_++
06:09:30 <paragan> tagoh++
06:09:30 <zodbot> paragan: Karma for tagoh changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:09:36 <pravins> may be juhp can discuss in WG meeting.
06:09:59 <mfabian> paragan and me tried colour emoji again on Monday on F25 and it worked well, somehow even better than on F24.
06:10:00 <suanand> paragan, okay!
06:10:59 <juhp> hi!
06:11:17 <paragan> Yes we got colour emoji working but only with gedit and may be for all other apps that uses gtk/cairo
06:11:36 <paragan> #chair juhp
06:11:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:13:11 <mfabian> Colour emoji work in many programs I am using except they don't work in Emacs and not in LibreOffice
06:13:40 <paragan> right I think that is because of fontconfig priority
06:14:27 <mfabian> paragan: In Emacs I have no idea how to make it work, maybe impossible at the moment. Emacs has an option to build with cairo but some Emacs developer told me that option is not working well at the moment.
06:14:57 <mfabian> paragan: In LibreOffice I have no idea what the problem is either. Some font setting maybe.
06:15:08 <pravins> i think, if possible we can be co-owner of color-emoji change proposal.
06:16:37 <paragan> main problem is emoji cairo patches are not yet upstream, not sure what is the reason for that
06:17:20 <mfabian> paragan: In Fedora 24, I noticed many bugs when using that patch, but on Fedora 25 it works perfectly for me since Monday.
06:18:10 <paragan> that is nice
06:18:43 <paragan> yes I too tested few more apps, colour emoji if set properly working fine except emacs and libreoffice
06:19:26 <paragan> lets check with desktop team for cairo patches. I will send email to them.
06:19:48 <pravins> yeah, that is good start. !!
06:20:11 <juhp> mfabian: great progress
06:20:33 <juhp> paragan: thanks
06:22:33 <paragan> any other idea to propose?
06:23:47 <juhp> pravins: sorry, about?  emoji or fontconfig?
06:24:26 <pravins> juhp: emoji. since important packages are owned by Workstation team.
06:24:55 <juhp> you mean for libreoffice and qt?
06:25:16 <mfabian> juhp: I think to get the colour emoji patches for cairo included
06:25:26 <juhp> ah right
06:25:32 <juhp> mfabian: okay
06:25:40 <juhp> they're not in fedora at all?
06:25:40 <pravins> was talking generally on color emoji change proposal, does Desktop interested in proposing or should we takeover.
06:26:10 <mfabian> juhp: There are some patches made originally by Behdad, but they are not included, we don't know why not. These patches seemed buggy when I used them on F24 but on F25 I don't notice any problems so far.
06:26:52 <juhp> pravins: okay
06:28:06 <juhp> I think it might be too late though for WG
06:28:16 <juhp> next meeting in 2 weeks time?
06:28:31 <pravins> ohh
06:28:41 <juhp> so i would suggest to take the discussion to the fedora desktop list
06:29:01 <juhp> mfabian, paragan: do you want to do that?
06:29:18 <juhp> I think paragan was talking about that already
06:29:31 <mfabian> juhp: Yes, we’ll do that.
06:29:35 <juhp> +1 from me
06:30:18 <juhp> cool
06:30:43 <paragan> yes I will check with them
06:30:46 <juhp> pravins: having a Change sounds good though
06:30:58 <juhp> .whoowns cairo
06:30:59 <zodbot> juhp: company
06:31:19 <juhp> good to suggest that too
06:31:35 <juhp> if we can get the patch in or even better merged
06:32:49 <juhp> paragan: great :)
06:33:49 <paragan> okay if no more ideas to propose let's move to next topic
06:34:36 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
06:34:36 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017
06:34:36 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72
06:35:02 <pravins> hmm, no progress on this yet.
06:35:29 <pravins> it make sense to have this aligned with any conference but which one is tricky.
06:35:45 <pravins> I will create proposal page soon.
06:37:04 <paragan> pravins, thanks
06:37:14 <paragan> #info #71: Fedora 23 EOL bugs management
06:37:14 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/71
06:37:18 <paragan> anything here?
06:37:48 <pravins> we can close this ticket now, deadline was 20th Dec. so nothing much to do here now.
06:38:08 <paragan> okay thanks
06:39:33 <paragan> If in any case your bugs are closed which need to be fixed then reopen and move them to Fedora 26 or rawhide.
06:40:06 <paragan> #info #63: Fedora 24 Bug triaging
06:40:07 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63
06:40:19 <paragan> let's have early triaging for f24 bugs
06:41:58 <paragan> good to invite people to triage bugs
06:42:09 <paragan> will add more details on it before next meeting
06:43:26 <pravins> yes.
06:43:52 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:44:03 <paragan> anyone want to discuss anything here?
06:45:26 <pravins> mfabian: we have to write article about ibus typing booster in Fedora Magazine this month.
06:46:05 <pravins> we will collaborate on draft.
06:46:07 <mfabian> pravins: Yes, mentioning the emoji would be nice in that article.
06:46:31 <pravins> definitely, its specific for ibus-typing-booster, so ideally we should mention major features.
06:49:41 <paragan> okay let's close the meeting.
06:49:50 <paragan> Thank you all for coming to this meeting
06:49:54 <paragan> #endmeeting