16:00:20 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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16:00:27 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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16:00:30 <adamw> #topic Roll call
16:00:32 * roshi is here
16:00:35 * coremodule is here
16:00:36 * pschindl_ is here
16:00:38 * garretraziel is here
16:00:38 <adamw> morning everyone! who's around for qa funtimes?
16:01:10 * a2batic_ is here
16:01:22 * sumantro is here
16:01:43 * kparal is here
16:01:47 <adamw> nice to see you all
16:02:11 <adamw> how's the new year, for those who follow pope gregory?
16:02:38 <sumantro> adamw nice to see you too :) kparal o/
16:03:37 <coremodule> Doing well! And you?
16:03:40 * adamw tries to remember how this thing works
16:03:48 <kparal> awesome. empty inbox, all tickets closed, no bugs, you know it
16:03:58 <adamw> who are you and what have you done with kparal
16:04:12 <adamw> security breach! security breach! intruder alert!
16:04:37 * kparal uses his beard to cover his evil laughter
16:04:55 <roshi> great. of course something like kparal's doppleganger shows up my first day back...
16:05:17 <adamw> ooh, hi roshi! welcome back! didn't even see you checking in
16:05:42 <adamw> hmm, very red hat-y crowd today, we've scared all the contributors away :P
16:05:52 <adamw> alrighty, let's get rolling i guess
16:05:55 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
16:05:58 <roshi> :D
16:06:20 * tflink is late
16:06:28 <adamw> #info "adamw to look into USB writing tool coverage in the validation matrices, draft something up" - yeah, I still didn't do that. i'll just move it to my personal todo list and stop boring you about it
16:06:32 <adamw> hi tflink
16:06:53 <adamw> #info "adamw to review the draft retrospective mail" - I reviewed it, I don't think sumantro sent it out yet?
16:07:17 <sumantro> I sent it. Its in the mailing list and you approved it already :)
16:09:00 <adamw> well, there's me starting the new year off on the right foot
16:09:08 <adamw> it's not in my list archive folder. strange. oh well!
16:09:16 <adamw> oh, and I forgot to throw some chairs around
16:09:20 <adamw> #info sumantro *did* send it out
16:09:26 <adamw> #chair roshi coremodule
16:09:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw coremodule roshi
16:09:44 <adamw> a2batic_: we have "a2batic to try and run some test migrations of trac into pagure"
16:09:52 * a2batic_ nods
16:09:53 <adamw> there's a full topic for this later, so can you just give us a quick note for now?
16:10:15 <a2batic_> yes
16:10:49 <a2batic_> the test repository has been setted up here -> https://stg.pagure.io/test-fedoraqa-2
16:11:17 <a2batic_> Roadmap contains all the milestone
16:11:25 <a2batic_> There are 5 levels of priority:
16:11:25 <a2batic_> Blocker
16:11:25 <a2batic_> Critical
16:11:25 <a2batic_> Major
16:11:25 <a2batic_> Minor
16:11:26 <a2batic_> Trivial
16:11:41 <a2batic_> The keywords, component and type are mentioned as TAGS
16:11:54 <adamw> awesome, thanks
16:12:19 <adamw> #info "a2batic to try and run some test migrations of trac into pagure" - a2batic has done this, there is a test repository at https://stg.pagure.io/test-fedoraqa-2 - further discussion later in this meeting
16:12:28 <adamw> that's all I got for followup, anything else?
16:13:07 <a2batic_> adamw, the release-ng project
16:13:24 <adamw> there's a topic coming up for that too
16:13:38 <a2batic_> Ok
16:14:18 <adamw> #topic Optical media test coverage discussion, redux
16:14:35 <adamw> so, kparal? Where do we stand on this?
16:15:14 <kparal> I concluded that we're not going to block on optical media for alpha/beta
16:15:25 <kparal> for Final we only block on Workstation Live/Everything netinst
16:15:39 <kparal> nobody argued against, which means everyone agrees
16:15:42 <roshi> that makes sense to me
16:16:03 <kparal> I'm going to send criteria adjustment proposals to test list this week (I actually wanted today, but...)
16:16:46 <kparal> I think we could track this information in this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fedora25
16:16:51 <kparal> (for F26)
16:17:10 <kparal> create a new column for optical media release blocking
16:17:21 <kparal> but that's an implementation detail
16:17:40 <adamw> sounds great
16:17:51 <adamw> so doesn't seem like any action needed, except for us to stand by to review the criteria draft?
16:17:57 <kparal> yep
16:18:29 <adamw> #info kparal is satisfied that the discussions have reached a consensus, and is working on a criterion draft, so we will stand by to review it
16:18:43 <adamw> #topic Trac -> Pagure migration status
16:18:55 <adamw> so, here's for a2batic :)
16:19:23 <adamw> #info as noted in previous meeting follow-up, a test Pagure instance is up at https://stg.pagure.io/test-fedoraqa-2 for people to check
16:19:41 <adamw> i must admit i haven't looked at it yet, sorry a2batic; I got distracted by python rebuilds. how's it looking?
16:20:24 <a2batic_> adamw, its looks good to me :)
16:20:24 <kparal> tags as categories, nice: https://stg.pagure.io/test-fedoraqa-2/issues?status=Open&tags=testday
16:20:39 <adamw> yay tags, we all love tags
16:21:09 <a2batic_> yes, I have updated some of the tickets #471, #472, #489, #491, #493, #494, #495, #496 for demo
16:21:56 <sumantro> all recently filed test day tickets has been moved ! yaay!
16:22:05 <adamw> it'd be nice if we could hide 'commits' and 'files' i guess
16:22:20 <adamw> not sure if pagure allows that
16:22:28 <adamw> i know you can hide 'pull requests'
16:22:40 <adamw> ideally we'd only have one tab, i guess :P
16:23:15 <a2batic_> ok, so we need only 'Issue' tab ?
16:24:53 <adamw> yeah
16:25:04 <adamw> but it's not super important, and it doesn't need to block the transition
16:25:28 <adamw> a2batic_: do you see any major problems so far?
16:25:45 <adamw> if not i guess we could give it till the end of this week for comments then go ahead and run the official migration next week?
16:26:19 <a2batic_> adamw, no problems till now
16:27:06 <adamw> great
16:27:20 <adamw> #info the test migration is looking pretty good, so we will aim to move ahead with official migration next week
16:27:25 <adamw> thanks for the work on this, a2batic!
16:27:52 <a2batic_> adamw, one thing, there are tickets in fedorahosted that are closed in different way, in pagure they can only be closed under 'invalid'
16:28:29 <adamw> ah, thanks for flagging that up...
16:29:03 <kparal> meaning there's only "resolved" and "invalid"?
16:29:34 <a2batic_> yes
16:30:17 <a2batic_> there are only two tags 'Fixed' and 'Invalid'
16:30:21 <kparal> ok, I think that's enough for us
16:30:31 <adamw> can we use 'fixed' for converted tickets?
16:31:02 <a2batic_> Converted tickets?
16:31:10 <kparal> from fedorahosted
16:32:08 <adamw> right
16:32:22 <adamw> you said 'they can only be closed under 'invalid'', but then kparal mentioned 'resolved'
16:32:33 <a2batic_> yes, the tickets that are closed under 'fixed' are taged as 'fixed'
16:32:39 <adamw> so i'm trying to clear up whether we can use both those statuses when converting issues
16:32:50 <adamw> ah, ok. then yeah, just having those two statuses is probably enough
16:33:15 <a2batic_> and tickets closed under any other tag are mentioned as 'invalid'
16:33:23 <a2batic_> ok
16:33:53 <a2batic_> example :- https://stg.pagure.io/test-fedoraqa-2/issue/470  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/470
16:34:53 <adamw> i think that's OK
16:34:57 <adamw> except that the link doesn't work any more :P
16:35:04 <adamw> tflink: can we not have redirects from the old URLs?
16:35:27 <tflink> they were supposed to work
16:35:35 <tflink> but apparently they aren't
16:36:35 <adamw> next job :)
16:36:45 <adamw> alright, so this is looking fine, thanks again a2batic
16:36:51 <adamw> any other notes or shall we move on?
16:36:56 <a2batic_> Thanks adamw :)
16:37:15 <a2batic_> no more notes
16:38:26 <adamw> roger
16:38:33 <adamw> #topic Fedora 26 Test Day status
16:38:36 <sumantro> The test day satus is DNF 2.0 awaits  F26 branching. The propose change maintainers are suggesting to run it after early f 26 branching.
16:38:46 <adamw> yikes, that was fast
16:38:55 <adamw> anything else? coremodule, any notes?
16:39:01 <sumantro> Fedora 26 BlivetGUI awaits code compelting dealine which is Fed 21
16:39:07 <sumantro> *feb
16:39:12 <sumantro> *deadline
16:39:28 <sumantro> adamw , I typed it beforehand :)
16:39:38 <coremodule> Nothing here, I like the idea of waiting for next week on the switch to pagure.
16:40:36 <adamw> alrighty, thanks sumantro
16:41:08 <adamw> #info DNF 2.0 Test Day is awaiting the branch point, blivet-gui Test Day is awaiting the code completion deadline - in general we will be able to move forward with events as the F26 schedule moves along
16:41:31 <adamw> #topic Fedora 25 Retrospective status
16:41:36 <adamw> so we haven't really got any retrospective feedback yet
16:41:40 <adamw> don't be shy, folks! fill it in!
16:42:00 <adamw> #info everyone please put thoughts about how the F25 cycle went in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_QA_Retrospective
16:42:19 <adamw> if we don't get any feedback it'll make sumantro's life easier, but it's nice to have some :)
16:44:04 <adamw> #topic Relval-ng status
16:44:38 <adamw> so, we got an update in the design ticket just before the holiday break: https://pagure.io/design/issue/483#comment-46427
16:44:47 <coremodule> Wow, totally missed that we had changed topics above ^^.
16:44:52 <adamw> i was kinda hoping to have some time to work on this over the break, but wound up doing python 3.6 rebuilds instead
16:44:57 <misc> genre /win 23
16:45:00 <misc> oups
16:45:03 <adamw> coremodule: d'oh =) did you have anything on test days?
16:45:53 <coremodule> Nothing here! I will get with sumantro closer to branch to work on planning/execution.
16:46:14 <coremodule> But I noticed my answer to your inquiry didn't quite fit...
16:46:54 <adamw> alright :)
16:47:25 <adamw> so on relval-ng, i guess the status is we need to start doing some work :)
16:47:54 <adamw> i think we have at least enough in the design mockups and planning so far to start working on some bits
16:48:52 * a2batic_ nods
16:49:40 <adamw> this meeting isn't really the place for detailed planning, so i guess let's do that elsewhere
16:50:09 <adamw> #info relval-ng status: we have updated mockups in the design ticket, and a vague idea of how we want to build the thing, so the next step is probably to set up a project and actually start working on the code
16:50:25 <adamw> (you can tell why no-one hires me to be a project manager, huh)
16:50:42 <kparal> :D
16:50:44 * adamw puts on project manager hat
16:50:49 <adamw> AGILE! AGILE! STAND-UP MEETING
16:50:52 <adamw> *ahem* sorry
16:52:03 <adamw> alright, and that gets us through the agenda, so there's time for a quick:
16:52:06 <adamw> #topic Open floor
16:52:18 <adamw> note we have blocker review (the first for f26) in #fedora-blocker-review in 8 minutes
16:53:01 <coremodule> Yayyy!
16:53:01 * kparal is not here and never was
16:53:26 <adamw> kparal: you should've paid more attention when i was nailing your feet to the floor earlier
16:54:16 <adamw> anything else for open floor, folks?
16:58:16 <roshi> I have nothing
16:59:12 <adamw> alright, welp, that's our time
16:59:14 <adamw> thanks for coming, everyone!
16:59:18 <adamw> and welcome back roshi!
16:59:34 <adamw> time for some blocker review over in #fedora-blocker-review
16:59:39 <adamw> see you there!
16:59:40 * adamw sets fuse
17:00:18 <a2batic_> Thanks adamw :)
17:00:31 <tflink> adamw: thanks for leading
17:01:10 <roshi> thanks, glad to be back!
17:02:05 <adamw> #endmeeting