12:03:41 <Amita> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity Team - 2017 Feb 8
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12:03:56 <Amita> #meetingname diversity
12:03:56 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity'
12:04:24 <Amita> #topic Roll Call / Q&A
12:04:37 <bexelbie> .hello bex
12:04:39 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
12:04:46 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
12:04:47 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
12:05:02 <Amita> .hello amsharma
12:05:03 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com>
12:05:53 <marinaz> .hello marinaz
12:05:54 <zodbot> marinaz: marinaz 'Marina Zhurakhinskaya' <marinaz@redhat.com>
12:05:59 <Amita> #chair amsharma bexelbie jflory7 marinaz
12:05:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita amsharma bexelbie jflory7 marinaz
12:06:36 <Rhea> .hello rhea
12:06:37 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com>
12:06:48 <Amita> #chair Rhea
12:06:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea amsharma bexelbie jflory7 marinaz
12:07:11 <jflory7> Hi everyone!
12:07:16 <Amita> hello everyone
12:07:23 <Amita> I have shared the meeting agenda
12:07:24 <jflory7> Hope all of you who were traveling have made it home safely and had time to rest :)
12:07:27 <Amita> let's go by that
12:07:38 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
12:07:39 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
12:07:43 <Amita> hi jonatoni
12:07:48 <Amita> #chair jonatoni
12:07:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea amsharma bexelbie jflory7 jonatoni marinaz
12:07:52 <jonatoni> Hi all :)
12:08:03 * jflory7 waves to Rhea and jonatoni
12:08:27 <jflory7> Amita: Sounds good about the agenda.
12:08:47 <Amita> #agenda We can discuss about the FAD report and initiate writing one.
12:08:48 * jonatoni jflory7 o/
12:08:50 <marinaz> hi Rhea and jonatoni!
12:08:54 <Rhea> hiiii cant talk
12:08:57 <Amita> hello everyone
12:09:00 <jonatoni> Hi marinaz :)
12:09:05 <Amita> #topic FAD Report
12:09:28 <Amita> I have seen bexelbie already have written one (neat and to the point)
12:09:36 <jflory7> #link http://www.winglemeyer.org/technology/2017/02/07/fedora-diversity-fad/
12:09:45 * jflory7 needs to go through it
12:09:51 <Amita> bexelbie++
12:10:12 <Amita> we should target one for the comops blog in this week
12:10:12 <jflory7> bexelbie++ for somehow having time to keep on top of emails, write event reports, and still be ready for GSoC applications :P
12:10:34 <bexelbie> s/ready/panicked/ :P
12:10:49 <Amita> I am kinda amazed the amount of energy bexelbie have
12:11:01 <marinaz> bexelbie++
12:11:01 <zodbot> marinaz: Karma for bex changed to 11 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
12:11:01 <bexelbie> y'all are too kind
12:11:08 <Amita> so the idea is to use a pirate pad
12:11:11 <jonatoni> bexelbie++ :)
12:11:12 <zodbot> jonatoni: Karma for bex changed to 12 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
12:11:24 <Amita> and we can give it a proper structure and start filling up the sections
12:11:31 <Amita> may be 1 section/per person
12:11:51 <Amita> so that it will be a parallel process of writing different sub sections
12:11:58 <Amita> and we can cover the details
12:12:01 <jflory7> Amita: Agreed. I also encourage all of us to consider writing our own reports too for our own blogs, maybe at a more personal angle. Maybe not as detailed as a report on the CommBlog, but this would help give additional exposure to our work (and it may still be officially part of the reimbursement process – I know it is for events in North America and Flock).
12:12:13 <Amita> everyone can review all the subsections at the end
12:12:46 <Amita> jflory7, that is our personal tasks :)
12:12:49 <bexelbie> If it isn't in the reimbursement rules, it should be.  Everyone who travels should be writing something, imho.
12:13:03 <Amita> from diversity team point of view, lets target the common report first
12:13:04 <jflory7> Amita: From my experience, I think it will be difficult to split writing across like that because it will be different voices and authors in the same report. I think the best way to do this is to charge it to a single person to write, and then have a peer review / edit once we have an initial draft.
12:13:05 <bexelbie> *cough*FOSDEM*cough*
12:13:24 <Amita> yeah bexelbie FOSDEM reports too :)
12:13:25 <jflory7> For me, it's confusing to have multiple people writing a single report, but I acknowledge that this could just be my own view too.
12:13:35 <bexelbie> jflory7, I agree with you in principal, however, I think in this case it might be better to have an outline people fill in.  The editing pass can fix voice.
12:13:49 <bexelbie> making this one person's responsibility will probably result in it not getting done
12:13:52 <jonatoni> bexelbie totally agree with you, we need an article for FAD and FOSDEM too
12:13:56 <bexelbie> a FAD without outboudn reporting didn't happen
12:14:23 <jflory7> I have the cycles where I could write a report for the FAD tomorrow and have a final draft by end of day Thursday
12:14:52 <Amita> jflory7, I am ready to throw this all to you
12:14:57 <Amita> but I don't want that
12:15:17 <Amita> a. This can skip other's voices
12:15:28 <Amita> b. we want to be kind to you
12:15:29 <Amita> :)
12:15:36 <jflory7> If we want to break it up into an outline and have us all contribute to it, that will work fine by me. I understand the other points you all raise and that's fair. :)
12:15:43 <marinaz> I'd be happy to jflory7 and Amita to take on the initial pass at the report
12:16:08 <jflory7> Yeah, maybe Amita and I can tag-team this and then share a first draft for peer review?
12:16:29 <Amita> ok, so lets do this, me and jflory7 will draw the outline within next 2 days
12:16:43 <jflory7> Sounds like a doable plan to me!
12:16:44 <Amita> and then share that with team on mail
12:17:03 <Amita> and let team fill in the blanks (if any)
12:17:19 <jflory7> #info All FAD participants (and FOSDEM goers) are highly encouraged to write personal event reports on their personal blogs to share on the Fedora Planet and elsewhere
12:17:29 <jflory7> Amita: +1.
12:18:03 <Amita> #action Amita and jflory7 to comeup with FAD report outline in a piratepas and share this with team by Feb 10
12:18:15 <jflory7> #agreed For the general FAD report on the Community Blog, Amita and jflory7 will tag-team this to work on a first draft, and then will share the initial draft with the team for peer review / edits
12:18:24 * jflory7 adds action item to to-do list
12:18:41 <jflory7> All looks good to me!
12:18:49 <Amita> #action jonatoni bee2502 Rhea marinaz bexelbie to review the report and fill the gaps if any
12:19:17 <Amita> ok, so this was fast, anyone wants to add something to it?
12:19:35 <Amita> moving to next
12:19:38 <Amita> #topic Study of other communities diversity and inclusion policies and how they can fit in Fedora.
12:20:04 <Amita> I was in marketing meeting yesterday, jflory7 was running it :)
12:20:21 <Amita> so the idea is kind a spreading and very helpful
12:20:46 <jflory7> For this topic, I haven't yet fully had a chance to do my research, but I did have a long conversation with meskarune, the founder of Arch Women, and she provided a lot of valuable insight
12:21:05 <jflory7> I have a couple things I want to action myself for:
12:21:19 <Amita> jflory7, It will be great if you can put that in the prague ticket and/or mailing list
12:21:51 <Amita> I am taking care of mozilla community study, I will take that action
12:21:52 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Take feedback from meskarune about Arch Women and add insight to ticket #3 (due:2017-02-09)
12:22:27 <Amita> #action Amita started conversation with Mozilla contributors (local in office)
12:22:50 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Research / reach out to freenode community team to better understand how they handle issues in the wider freenode community and what steps they follow or take for different situations (due:2017-02-12)
12:23:14 <jonatoni> I will ask LibreOffice community about this
12:23:15 <Amita> jonatoni, bee2502 Rhea you have any community to be covered under this?
12:23:53 <jonatoni> also Wikimedia
12:24:05 <jflory7> In our Etherpad, we had also tasked bee2502 with Mozilla, me with Ubuntu / Canonical, jonatoni with LibreOffice / The Document Foundation, jonatoni with Wikipedia, jonatoni with KDE, bee2502 with Python, GNOME with marinaz / bee2502, and Systers / Ada Initiative to bee2502.
12:24:17 <Amita> #action jonatoni will reach out to  LibreOffice for study of diversity and inclusion policies
12:24:43 <Amita> jflory7, nice, we can put that in Pagure - what is in the etherpad for the record
12:24:43 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Start a conversation with cprofitt about Ubuntu community guidelines / code of conduct and his experiences in the Ubuntu community (due:2017-02-10)
12:25:09 <jflory7> #link https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-diversity-fad-notes (line #372)
12:25:22 <Amita> .thank jflory7
12:25:23 <zodbot> Amita thinks jflory7 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to jflory7++ also)
12:25:52 <Amita> I think we are good here
12:25:56 <Amita> moving to next
12:26:15 <Amita> #topic Where we are at survey progress.
12:26:43 <Amita> I think this one goes to marinaz :)
12:26:44 <jflory7> The only question I had for this topic was if our questions/options have been shipped to Fedora Legal yet.
12:27:05 <Amita> and marinaz and bexelbie can answer that
12:27:30 <marinaz> jflory7: no, not yet - bexelbie and I need to sync up on it after all the travel he had + GSoC "panic" :)
12:28:03 <jflory7> Maybe an action item for this week (or maybe just better for next week, after GSo
12:28:04 <marinaz> jflory7: were you planning to update the wiki with our set of questions from the etherpad or should I do that?
12:28:05 <Amita> marinaz, don't mind an action item, hehe :)
12:28:07 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
12:28:07 <jflory7> * GSoC)?
12:28:07 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
12:28:16 <Amita> #chair bee2502
12:28:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea amsharma bee2502 bexelbie jflory7 jonatoni marinaz
12:28:20 <Amita> hello b
12:28:23 <Amita> hello bee2502
12:28:27 <Amita> I hope you are better now
12:28:39 <bee2502> Hi everyone o/
12:28:45 <marinaz> hi bee2502!
12:28:53 <jflory7> marinaz: One of my personal action items for today is to do a lot of ticket updating for Diversity and other teams – I think I can safely take that action item since I'll be going through a lot of this kind of stuff.
12:29:03 <jflory7> marinaz: My question was how public we wanted the questions?
12:29:10 * jflory7 waves to bee2502
12:29:12 <jflory7> #chair bee2502
12:29:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita Rhea amsharma bee2502 bexelbie jflory7 jonatoni marinaz
12:29:14 <Amita> #action marinaz and bexelbie to sync up survey questions for  Fedora Legal
12:29:22 <bee2502> Amita : Not really, I am here before the cough medicine makes me sleepy again
12:29:40 <bee2502> marinaz jflory7 o/
12:29:44 <marinaz> jflory7: sounds good! I think as long as we keep the note that these are draft questions, there is an improvement over having our previous draft questions on the wiki :)
12:29:46 <Amita> bee2502, take proper medicine and rest, we love you and need a healthy bee
12:29:58 * jflory7 nods
12:30:06 <jflory7> marinaz: Okay, then this is one I can take then.
12:30:08 <bee2502> just scrolling through the past minutes for now..
12:30:16 <marinaz> jflory7: thank you!
12:30:45 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Update wiki page with draft of questions from FAD as part of ticket triaging process for today (inc. note that they are NOT finalized)
12:30:59 <Amita> .thanks jflory7
12:31:00 <jflory7> +1 Amita :P
12:31:13 <Amita> jflory7, I hope, you are not taking too much :)
12:31:27 <Amita> jflory7, feel free to share the load whenever you feel like please
12:32:22 <jflory7> Amita: Most of these things were action items I already had for myself for whenever I got my boots back on the ground for Dubrovnik. I mostly want to spend time getting info from Etherpads / IRC into tickets or more loggable places of discussion.
12:32:41 <jflory7> I don't anticipate this being a *normal* amount of actions :)
12:32:43 <Amita> jflory7, you rock!
12:32:52 <Amita> moving to next agenda
12:32:56 <Amita> #topic Subproject Report meetings
12:33:04 <Amita> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
12:33:06 <jflory7> Ah, yeah
12:33:13 <Amita> this one I have taken from marketing meeting
12:33:24 <Amita> and if we check the mail thread, diversity is mentioned there
12:33:31 <jflory7> As a note, Marketing and possibly the Magazine is tentatively aiming for the March 22 date. We should probably avoid the Feb. 22 date too since mattdm will be absent.
12:33:44 <jflory7> I'm not sure how many groups they are planning to get a report from during one meeting.
12:34:18 <Amita> jflory7, March 23 works for me, lets ask rest of the team mates
12:34:25 <Amita> and what will the meeting time?
12:34:44 <bexelbie> I believe it is one per meeting
12:34:46 <Amita> also, I would like to sync on the report before we jump on the meeting
12:35:40 <Amita> Report should include our current state of tasks we are doing + what help we need from council ( in nutshell, if I am not totally wrong here) ?
12:35:47 <jflory7> Amita: Meeting time is also on Wednesdays, 14:00 UTC if I recall now.
12:36:02 <jflory7> Amita: Oh, definitely, this is a ticket worth of its own discussion
12:36:16 <jflory7> * worthy
12:37:04 <Amita> jflory7, I assume the FAD blog post will help us showcase better, how we are helping and progressing
12:37:50 <Amita> but a overall project report would cover the bigger space in spectrum here
12:38:05 <Amita> let's open a pargue ticket
12:38:10 <Amita> I will take that up
12:38:39 <Amita> #action Create a project report for https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
12:38:48 <Amita> #undo
12:38:48 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by Amita at 12:38:39 : Create a project report for https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
12:38:58 <Amita> #action Amita Create a project report for https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
12:39:20 <Amita> I should come up with something by next week for review
12:39:36 <Amita> any more helpful suggestions here?
12:40:05 <Amita> jflory7, bexelbie how to reserve a date for this with council ?
12:40:28 <bexelbie> Amita, not sure - add to the ticket I guess we don't have that part mapped out
12:40:35 <jflory7> Amita: I'm replying to the thread about this now about prioritization, since there's three meeting dates, but nine groups to potentially be surveyed.
12:40:54 <Amita> bexelbie, ok
12:40:58 <Amita> jflory7, sure, thanks
12:41:32 <Amita> #action jflory7 to reply to mail and comment in council ticket for reserving a date for diversity team for reporting
12:41:37 <Amita> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
12:41:45 <jflory7> I just replied now.
12:41:46 <Amita> jflory7, do you have ticket link handy?
12:42:05 <jflory7> Amita: Let's go ahead and file a ticket for ourselves to create the report, and then reserve discussion for our next meeting
12:42:09 <Amita> jflory7, bexelbie you people make me think about my capabilities , how come soo super FAST one can be
12:42:11 <Amita> ><
12:42:28 <Amita> jflory7, I have taken that action
12:42:30 <jflory7> I think we'll need to wait a bit before we discuss this further, when we have more clear info from what the Council plans to do for these.
12:42:38 * jflory7 nods to Amita
12:42:52 <Amita> jflory7, can you link the ticket please?
12:43:01 <jflory7> Amita: Ticket?
12:43:35 <Amita> <bexelbie> Amita, not sure - add to the ticket I guess we don't have that part mapped out
12:43:39 <Amita> this ticket ^^
12:44:19 <Amita> ok, I will try to find it offline, if at all there is one
12:44:25 * bexelbie looks
12:44:27 <Amita> let;s move on to next one
12:44:29 * bexelbie had someone talking to me in the room
12:44:36 <Amita> .thanks bexelbie
12:44:37 <Amita> np
12:44:53 <Amita> #topic Code of Conduct expansion.
12:45:02 <bexelbie> Amita, n/m it is an email thread - reply there
12:45:12 <Amita> bexelbie, got it, thanks
12:45:24 <jflory7> Amita: There isn't a ticket yet as far as I know - I don't think the Council has gotten there yet :)
12:45:34 <jflory7> Oops, missed Brian's comment
12:45:50 <Amita> if everyone agrees, we have covered good topics for the meeting today, I would like to move to the openfloor now
12:46:03 <jflory7> Amita: For this topic, I don't know how much there is to discuss for this until we have some more research.
12:46:06 * Amita have meeting lined up next hour and I need to prepare for them as well
12:46:06 <jflory7> I am +1 for open floor
12:46:23 <Amita> #topic openfloor
12:46:35 * jflory7 thinks he has a meeting with bexelbie to pick up shortly too :P
12:46:40 <Amita> floor is open, music is on,.. let;s start dancing
12:46:41 <bexelbie> jflory7, heh
12:46:59 <jflory7> Amita: lolol.
12:47:14 <jflory7> As for any other details, I don't have much else to mention here…
12:47:18 <Amita> I wanna dance.. but sadly can't do while typing
12:47:25 <jflory7> I think we all have a lot to keep ourselves busy until the next meeting :)
12:47:45 <jflory7> And hopefully some sleep to recover on / illness to shake off. :P
12:47:50 <Amita> so we gonna have next meeting next to next week, as discussed?
12:48:02 * jonatoni will read meeting logs later
12:48:08 <jflory7> Amita: Currently, Fedocal has our next meeting for Wednesday, 22 February
12:48:12 <Amita> meetings every alternate week?
12:48:19 <jflory7> See ya, jonatoni!
12:48:20 <Amita> cool
12:48:21 <jonatoni> every two week
12:48:30 <Amita> we have enough time to do our action items
12:48:37 <Amita> let's try to kill some of them
12:48:50 <Amita> and be an awesome team hehe :)
12:48:57 <Amita> anything else?
12:49:00 <jonatoni> btw any action item to me? apart LibreOffice
12:49:09 <Amita> jonatoni, FAD report
12:49:20 <Amita> FOSDEM too
12:49:22 <jonatoni> yes I know that :)
12:49:22 <Amita> :)
12:49:26 <Amita> cool
12:49:33 <Amita> so if nothing else, lets close?
12:49:36 <jflory7> jonatoni: Reach out to LibreOffice / TDF and put anything you learn into the ticket, and then event reports… other than that, I think that's it.
12:49:46 <jflory7> Amita: I have nothing else to add. :)
12:49:48 <Amita> in 5
12:49:48 <jflory7> diversity_team++
12:49:50 <jonatoni> thanks jflory7 amita
12:49:54 <Amita> 4
12:49:56 <Amita> 3
12:49:58 <Amita> 2
12:49:59 <marinaz> yay diversity team!
12:50:01 <Amita> .
12:50:02 <jflory7> Amita++ Thank you for chairing :)
12:50:02 <Amita> .
12:50:04 <Amita> .
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12:50:10 <jflory7> .thank Amita
12:50:10 <zodbot> jflory7 thinks Amita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Amita++ also)
12:50:12 <Amita> #endofmeeting
12:50:28 <bee2502> Amita++
12:50:32 <marinaz> Amita++
12:50:32 <zodbot> marinaz: Karma for amsharma changed to 6 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
12:50:36 <bee2502> jflory7++
12:50:37 <Amita> #endmeeting