06:00:23 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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06:00:33 <fujiwarat> hi
06:00:37 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
06:00:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:42 <tagoh_> hi
06:00:47 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:54 <mfabian> Hi!
06:00:55 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-02-15
06:02:04 <paragan> #chair fujiwarat tagoh_ mfabian
06:02:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat mfabian paragan tagoh_
06:02:06 <pravins> hi paragan 😃
06:02:14 <juhp> hi
06:02:27 <paragan> #chair pravins juhp
06:02:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_
06:02:30 <paragan> Hi all
06:02:44 <suanand> hi
06:03:04 <paragan> Hi suanand
06:03:10 <paragan> #chair suanand
06:03:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:04:09 * juhp wonders how the nextmeetings command works - seems this meeting does not appear?
06:04:35 <juhp> ah nevermind maybe it does
06:04:36 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-07  Mass Rebuild
06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-21  Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes)
06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-28   Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-03-07   Alpha Freeze
06:04:48 <epico> hi
06:05:02 <pravins> juhp: we need to add appointment in calendar for it, i think we do have one.
06:05:31 <juhp> yeah
06:05:47 <pravins> but may be not in sync.
06:06:31 <paragan> #chair epico
06:06:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:06:39 <juhp> (well I was offline last night unusually - so log didn't reflect today)
06:06:54 <paragan> So last weekend Fedora mass rebuild has been completed
06:07:09 <juhp> yes
06:07:33 <paragan> we have ticket for that. we will discuss later on
06:07:56 <paragan> Anyone still got any change to be submitted?
06:08:30 <paragan> also whoever got Change accepted need to check on its completion before 2017-02-28
06:08:36 <epico> libpinyin 2.0 changes
06:09:00 <paragan> epico, if you want you can submit self-contained change before 2017-02-21
06:09:53 <epico> sure, will do
06:10:03 <paragan> thanks
06:10:23 <paragan> lets move to our tickets/issues
06:11:02 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issue
06:11:09 <paragan> #info #69: Fedora 26 planning
06:11:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69
06:12:20 <paragan> epico, after you submit change please add link to the submitted change to https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69
06:13:04 <epico> okay
06:14:17 <juhp> any more on the fontconfig Change?
06:14:44 <tagoh_> nope
06:15:45 <tagoh_> having a look at FTBFS issues on other packages first... will do work on fontconfig in this week.
06:17:34 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
06:17:35 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017
06:17:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72
06:18:19 <pravins> I am still not clear on Dates and Venue
06:18:44 <pravins> Actually depending upon date or month we have to decide tasks.
06:19:35 <pravins> 2017-05-30  F26 final release. So we are definitely doing it in F27 schedule timeline.
06:21:19 <juhp> I think should decide theme/goal for the FAD first
06:21:59 <pravins> Even this can work. My only concern was: Last time planning for F24 was one of imp. task at our hand.
06:22:02 <pravins> so something like it.
06:22:23 <pravins> I think Theme can be... Keeping Fedora contemporary from i18n side.
06:22:32 <pravins> Latest fonts, latest input methods
06:22:44 <pravins> and update locales.. such that Unicode CLDR
06:22:49 <pravins> s/updated
06:23:24 <pravins> saying that, we also have i18n tasks for Cloud and containers tech. i.e. flatpack
06:23:41 <pravins> does above typed theme looks good?
06:24:06 <juhp> so a F27 (or F28) planning meeting?
06:24:14 <juhp> probably makes good sense
06:24:35 <juhp> FAD is probably too short to achieve a lot of code etc
06:24:41 <pravins> and history says. This FAD planning serve us for 2/3 years releases :)
06:24:46 <juhp> yeah
06:25:34 <pravins> great. I will add this information in FAD page.
06:25:43 <pravins> november again looks good to me.
06:25:47 <juhp> is there still time to arrange as a F27 planning FAD or should we target F28? (of course we don't know the length of those cycles yet either....)
06:26:08 <paragan> FESCo is thinking to remove alpha freeze/compose/release but looks not yet for f27 maybe from f28+
06:26:18 <juhp> oh
06:26:39 <juhp> paragan: what does that mean?
06:26:51 <juhp> ah no alpha... I see
06:26:56 <juhp> hmmmm
06:27:05 * juhp wonders
06:27:17 <paragan> every day compose is like alpha
06:27:23 <juhp> okay
06:27:39 <pravins> make sense
06:27:46 <juhp> but then no alpha blockers...
06:28:09 <juhp> well it could save a week or two perhaps
06:28:28 <paragan> yeah that needs some discussion which will occur when a new Change is submitted "Alpha Removal" Change
06:28:36 <juhp> aha
06:29:06 <paragan> more on it https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1681#comment-75539
06:30:33 <paragan> pravins, please update ticket when you have some more information
06:30:54 <pravins> paragan: updated this discussion on ticket, will update page soon.
06:31:07 <paragan> thanks
06:31:10 <paragan> #info #63: Fedora 24 Bug triaging
06:31:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63
06:32:56 <paragan> all please keep traiging their bugs
06:33:09 <paragan> and see if they can be fixed/closed
06:33:28 <pravins> sure.
06:34:29 <paragan> #info #73: F26 mass rebuild fixes
06:34:29 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/73
06:34:58 <paragan> Please check the ticket description for the links and see if you got any package which is FTBFS
06:35:07 <paragan> fix it as soon as possible :)
06:35:48 <juhp> thanks for opening that
06:36:01 <juhp> I had been waiting for the mail
06:40:37 <paragan> lets move
06:40:55 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:41:01 <paragan> anyone got anything to discuss here?
06:41:10 <fujiwarat> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1413840
06:41:27 <fujiwarat> .bug 1413840
06:41:27 <zodbot> fujiwarat: Bug 1413840 – The various ibus-* modules tail to refresh gtk's immodule cache in every instance - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1413840
06:41:36 <fujiwarat> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ibus.git/tree/ibus.spec
06:41:49 <fujiwarat> Do you have any ideas to fix it?
06:43:11 <paragan> checking
06:45:11 <paragan> will check on it later on
06:46:44 <juhp> "Note that because of the logic this only applies on the initial install, but the problem will cure itself on upgrades."
06:47:02 <juhp> hmm
06:49:03 <juhp> fujiwarat: might be missing ambiguous Requires(post) as the reporter suggested?
06:49:10 <juhp> s/missing//
06:49:44 <juhp> you could append %{_isa} I think
06:50:25 <juhp> to enforce the correct arch
06:51:50 <fujiwarat> I don't know the recommended pre/post about 'if [ "$1" -eq 0 ]'.
06:53:57 <fujiwarat> any comments are welcome after this meeting.
06:56:10 <paragan> #endmeeting