14:01:03 <jkurik> #startmeeting Prioritized_bugs_and_issues
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14:01:05 <jkurik> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues
14:01:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues'
14:01:14 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
14:01:16 <jkurik> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and
14:01:28 <jkurik> #info   issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution.
14:01:30 <jkurik> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help
14:01:35 <jkurik> #info   contributors focus on the most important issues.
14:01:41 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/Prioritized_bugs_and_issues_-_the_process
14:01:47 <jkurik> #info Currently we have 3 proposed bugs for evaluation and 7 bugs already approved for review.
14:01:53 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
14:02:08 <jkurik> #chair jkurik mattdm sgallagh roshi
14:02:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: jkurik mattdm roshi sgallagh
14:02:21 <sgallagh> .hello sgallagh
14:02:22 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
14:02:28 <jkurik> hi sgallagh
14:03:01 <jkurik> sgallagh: mattdm is on vacations today and I do not know whether anyone else will join
14:03:19 <sgallagh> ok
14:03:52 <sgallagh> (Today is not *ideal* for me either, but I feel like I owe you my attendance this week)
14:05:03 <jkurik> ok, lets start, just two of us :)
14:05:10 <jkurik> #topic Evaluation of bug #1358700: [Wayland] In rare cases, applications don't react to mouse input any more (but to keyboard events)
14:05:16 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1358700
14:06:17 <jkurik> we postponed this bug to get more info, however I do not have any update on this
14:06:37 <jkurik> sgallagh: do you have any info on this ?
14:06:43 <sgallagh> I do not.
14:06:49 <sgallagh> (Was just reading the two bugs)
14:07:27 <jkurik> IMO this is not as serious to have it on the Priority list
14:07:38 <sgallagh> It's gotten attention and there *appears* to be an upstream fix pending, so I'm -1 for prioritizing
14:07:53 <jkurik> ok
14:08:49 <jkurik> #agreed As there is already an upstream fix pending, this bug has not been approved for the Priority list
14:09:00 <jkurik> #topic Evaluation of bug #1306992: PackageKit accumulate over 18GBytes of RPM packages in /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata and fill my root filesystem with unused RPM files
14:09:07 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1306992
14:10:12 <sgallagh> I'm +1 to prioritizing this. PackageKit should not be consuming that amount of disk space for that amount of time.
14:11:05 <jkurik> that is true, however you can simply "rm" the cache and the problem is solved
14:11:37 <jkurik> I understand this might be anoying but I am not sure we need this on the Priority list
14:12:19 <jkurik> we should keep the Priority list short, and this has a simple workaround
14:12:26 <sgallagh> hmm
14:12:42 <sgallagh> I don't like declaring things a "workaround" that no one knows how to discover.
14:12:51 <sgallagh> It's never clear what files are safe to delete
14:13:17 <jkurik> I did this several times, I know by experience :)
14:13:18 <sgallagh> But I'm not sure I disagree with your point
14:13:38 <sgallagh> jkurik: But would an average user know what to do?
14:13:44 <jkurik> probably not
14:13:45 <sgallagh> Is there a 'pkcon clean cache' command?
14:13:54 <sgallagh> That's kind of my point.
14:13:57 <jkurik> I do not know
14:14:22 <sgallagh> I don't care if the tool doesn't automatically clean up, but there's no obvious way to force it short of typing 'rm' and praying it doesn't break things
14:15:32 <sgallagh> I guess I'm kind of on the fence here
14:15:39 <sgallagh> I'd like to see *something* better than we currently have
14:15:47 <jkurik> It seems to be a duplicate of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80053 since 2014-June
14:16:25 <jkurik> IMO not many users faced this issue, I guess
14:16:48 <sgallagh> I think every user hits it, but only the ones who have limited HD space *notice*
14:17:10 <jkurik> right
14:17:46 <sgallagh> Since we don't agree, let's email mattdm to break the tie later.
14:17:55 <jkurik> :)
14:18:24 <jkurik> #agreed Postponing evaluation of this bug as we do not have a quorum
14:18:53 <jkurik> #action jkurik to ask mattdm to express his POV
14:18:57 <jkurik> #topic Evaluation of bug #1385432: Dracut exhibits numerous AVC denied errors during cleanup, takes long time to power off
14:19:04 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1385432
14:21:04 <sgallagh> I think this is already getting all the attention it needs.
14:21:04 <jkurik> I am +1 here
14:21:14 <sgallagh> I'm not sure adding it to the list is *meaningful*, but sure. +1
14:21:49 <jkurik> OK, I will add it and we can mark it as "solved" the next meeting (hopefully)
14:22:15 <jkurik> #agreed The bug has been approved for the Priority list
14:23:06 <jkurik> sgallagh: these were all the new bugs, would you want to do review of already approved bugs ?
14:23:09 <sgallagh> Alright if we skip the follow-ups this week?
14:23:28 <jkurik> ok, the question has been answered :)
14:23:35 <jkurik> thanks for your help
14:23:43 <sgallagh> Thanks; I've got a lot on my plate today.
14:23:57 <jkurik> sgallagh: have a successfull day
14:24:10 <jkurik> #endmeeting