06:00:48 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
06:00:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 10 06:00:48 2017 UTC.  The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:00:48 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
06:00:49 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:49 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-05-10
06:01:04 <tagoh> hi
06:01:08 <suanand> hi..
06:01:17 <fujiwarat> hi
06:01:32 <epico> hi
06:01:50 <paragan> hi all
06:02:06 <pravins> hi paragan :)
06:02:08 <paragan> #chair tagoh suanand fujiwarat epico pravins
06:02:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat paragan pravins suanand tagoh
06:03:19 <juhp__> hi
06:03:36 <paragan> #chair juhp
06:03:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp paragan pravins suanand tagoh
06:03:41 <paragan> let's start
06:03:51 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:04:02 <paragan> #info 2017-05-02   Software Translation Deadline
06:04:02 <paragan> #info 2017-05-16 	Beta Freeze (*)
06:04:02 <paragan> #info 2017-05-16 	Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
06:04:25 <paragan> F26 Beta freeze is coming next week
06:04:46 <paragan> anyone got any changes to push please do so soon so that it will be part of Beta release
06:04:58 <paragan> we also got Change Checkpoint
06:06:04 <paragan> I think our both the Changes are already on ON_QA?
06:07:44 <paragan> tagoh, I see your Change bug is not on ON_QA state
06:08:05 <paragan> If the work has been done 100% , can you move it to ON_QA state?
06:08:10 <paragan> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1416380
06:08:14 <pravins> We have only 2 changes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FontconfigCacheDirChange
06:08:31 <pravins> and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/libpinyin2.0
06:08:51 <tagoh> paragan: sure
06:09:21 <tagoh> paragan: who would be responsible to do QA and close it at the end?
06:10:05 <paragan> Those will be general users of your package and who would have submitted feedback on your changed package in bodhi
06:10:11 <tagoh> was expected to move it to ON_QA when it happens though
06:10:34 <pravins> we were including changes in our test days.
06:11:03 <paragan> The wiki page for this milestone says
06:11:05 <paragan> New accepted changes must be code complete, meaning all the code required to enable to the new change is finished.
06:11:06 <paragan> The level of code completeness is reflected as tracker bug state ON_QA. The change does not have to be fully tested by this deadline.
06:11:11 <juhp> I think probably Change owner is responsible for changing the state?
06:11:31 <epico> I changed it for libpinyin 2.0 this week.
06:11:51 <paragan> juhp, yes
06:11:55 <paragan> epico, thanks
06:12:04 <epico> welcome
06:13:03 <tagoh> it has been built before branching. so maybe not expecting to get testers from bodhi.
06:13:57 <paragan> If you are in need of more testing then good to sent email on test list
06:14:47 <tagoh> I don't think so... because I didn't get any report against this change at this moment. just wonder if we can simply close it...
06:16:04 <juhp> tagoh: it is just part of the Change process to move the bug status at each milestone basically
06:16:06 <paragan> I think closing them is done by Change Wrangler
06:16:11 <juhp> right
06:16:16 <tagoh> aha. okay
06:16:40 * tagoh updated the status
06:16:47 <paragan> Please read last line from here -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ChangesSOP#Tracking
06:16:49 <juhp> I didn't see any reminder mail yet though?
06:17:01 <juhp> or maybe i missed it
06:17:28 <paragan> juhp, yes its already sent on the list
06:17:56 <juhp> I mean previously I think change owners received a direct reminder mail?
06:17:56 <paragan> yesterday only :)
06:18:07 <juhp> ok
06:18:17 <pravins> we can definitely add this change for testing in test day
06:18:18 <paragan> I am not sure about the direct email
06:18:24 <juhp> okay
06:18:25 <pravins> it will help for some more testing
06:18:32 <juhp> sure
06:18:47 <juhp> maybe it only affects updates?
06:19:01 <juhp> or mainly
06:19:53 <paragan> I think so
06:21:26 <paragan> Let's move to next topic
06:21:41 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
06:21:41 <paragan> #info #74: I18N test day for Fedora 26
06:21:41 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/74
06:21:56 <paragan> I have done some progress on this ticket
06:22:30 <paragan> Created ticket to fedora-qa https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/508
06:22:30 <paragan> Updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2017-05-23_I18N_Test_Day
06:22:30 <paragan> Created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2017-05-23_I18N_TestdayApp_Metadata
06:22:40 <paragan> Created http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/21
06:23:15 <pravins> paragan: excellent, i already see our change proposals in test day page :)
06:23:22 <paragan> Please note that we will pick any available working Workstation Live iso on the test day
06:23:38 <juhp> paragan: thank you
06:23:48 <paragan> you can check them at https://www.happyassassin.net/nightlies.html
06:24:28 <paragan> #chair
06:24:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp paragan pravins suanand tagoh
06:24:33 <pravins> make sense.
06:24:44 <paragan> I request all to make any changes if needed to our test cases https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:I18n_Test_Cases
06:25:16 <juhp> so two weeks away
06:25:28 <paragan> also tagoh epico fujiwarat mfabian do you need to add any more new test cases?
06:25:54 <paragan> good to add test cases for what you have developed recently for your packages so that end users can get a way to test them
06:26:13 <paragan> mfabian, fujiwarat maybe you want to add something related to emoji test cases?
06:26:28 <mfabian> Maybe I should improve the test case for ibus-typing-booster ...
06:26:45 <paragan> that will be helpful to get more testing
06:27:06 <pravins> mfabian: yeah, for new features. I still fill emoji-picker can have different test case
06:27:11 <pravins> s/fill/feel :)
06:27:14 <mfabian> and yes, something about the emoji as well.
06:29:39 <paragan> next ticket
06:29:46 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017
06:29:47 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72
06:30:35 <pravins> Ok, so we have some progress on this, at least from my side :)
06:30:55 <pravins> Dates: 6-7 October 2017.
06:31:03 <pravins> Location: Pune, India
06:32:04 <pravins> i worked out on rough budget yesterday. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18N_2017#Budget
06:33:07 <pravins> 6th is Friday and 7th is Saturday
06:33:31 <juhp> Sunday?
06:33:48 <juhp> or only budgeting for 2 days?
06:33:59 <pravins> yeah, presently calculated budget only for 2 days
06:34:02 <juhp> also does it have to be weekend?
06:34:08 <pravins> adding Sunday will not increase cost that much actualy
06:34:09 <juhp> i see
06:34:13 <pravins> actually
06:34:25 <juhp> okay I feel 3 days looks more effective
06:35:09 <pravins> say: Lunch : $70, Stay: $250
06:35:24 <pravins> so its possible
06:35:32 <pravins> may be 2 and half day make sense
06:35:37 <juhp> 4?
06:36:01 <pravins> normally we dont do 4 days FAD in Fedora
06:36:05 <juhp> ok
06:36:20 <pravins> but yes, if we have specific agenda and plan, we can proceed ahead for it.
06:36:37 <pravins> i think lets consider for 3 days, then?
06:36:39 <pravins> #chair
06:36:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp paragan pravins suanand tagoh
06:37:13 <pravins> since, i also agree with juhp that having one days will help us to organize some other stuff.
06:38:15 <juhp> pravins: +1
06:38:38 <pravins> Proposal: Sometime, we should do google hangout meeting - just for a change !!
06:39:30 <pravins> Council is doing - Hangouts meeting sometime
06:39:38 <paragan> I think good to keep Sunday non-working
06:39:55 <juhp> or Thu-Sat?
06:40:02 <juhp> paragan: true
06:40:10 <pravins> perfect
06:40:14 <suanand> pravins: +1
06:40:15 <pravins> Thu-Sat looks nice.
06:40:17 <paragan> juhp, +1
06:40:40 <juhp> it will slightly stretch the budget though
06:40:46 <juhp> do we need to use weekend even?
06:40:47 <pravins> it will give some relaxing time for people who are travelling from abroad.
06:40:53 <juhp> true
06:41:19 <pravins> As of now, we are well in budget. I think last time we were more people travelling.
06:41:49 <juhp> ok
06:41:58 <pravins> Me, Parag, Ani, Noriko, Mike, Peng and Anish
06:42:09 <pravins> Travelling is more bottleneck
06:42:14 <fujiwarat> Updated air plain cost now.
06:42:50 <pravins> fujiwarat: thank you :)
06:43:06 <fujiwarat> s/plain/plane/
06:44:23 <pravins> sure, i will update proposal page accordingly
06:44:31 <pravins> requesting others as well, to update airfare rate
06:44:41 <pravins> so fujiwarat it is from Tokyo-Pune, right?
06:45:21 <pravins> So my next plan is:
06:45:48 <pravins> 1. Once everyone update airfare will calculate total budget and will create ticket to council for budget approval
06:45:54 <fujiwarat> pravins: Yes, Narita/Tokyo-Pune
06:46:17 <pravins> sure.
06:47:26 <pravins> i am done for todays updates
06:47:31 <juhp> how about during Mon-Fri ?
06:48:46 <pravins> At least, we should keep Sat, since community members can join us, if required
06:48:55 <juhp> ah right
06:49:01 <juhp> okay
06:49:10 <juhp> but do we want large FAD? :)
06:49:26 <juhp> I am not sure
06:49:43 <pravins> no, we want this time more focused FAD
06:49:50 <pravins> so, max 3-4 projects
06:50:06 <pravins> i think, we should keep half day as a conference type in last day
06:50:10 <juhp> alright well if we have some specific people in mind I guess it makes sense
06:50:21 <pravins> something like: talks about things completed and plans
06:50:25 <juhp> okay
06:50:26 <pravins> more people can join here.
06:50:31 <juhp> alright
06:52:31 <paragan> next ticket
06:52:40 <paragan> #info #63: Fedora 24 Bug triaging
06:52:41 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63
06:53:21 <pravins> i must work soon on liberation fonts, lots of bugs
06:53:35 <paragan> Keep triaging bugs for Fedora 24, currently
06:54:57 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:55:02 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:55:13 <paragan> if not will close the meeting in 2 minutes
06:56:18 <fujiwarat> juhp: Mon-Fri is a little cheep but I think we don't have to calculate it strictly at the moment.
06:56:51 <juhp> ok
06:57:26 <juhp> I respun my translate-toolkit updates to fix a couple of minor packaging issues
06:58:43 <pravins> fujiwarat: agree.
07:02:07 <paragan> okay thanks all for coming to this meeting
07:02:10 <paragan> #endmeeting