15:01:23 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:01:23 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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15:01:25 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
15:01:32 * sumantrom is here
15:01:43 * pschindl_wfh is here
15:01:44 * garretraziel 
15:01:47 <adamw> morning folks! who's around?
15:02:07 * tflink is around
15:02:20 <adamw> and who's asquare?
15:02:40 * tflink misunderstood the question
15:02:45 * tflink is definitely a square
15:02:53 <tflink> :-P
15:03:13 <hdost> is here
15:04:06 * adamw is adodecahedronic, personally
15:04:18 <garretraziel> It's-a Me, garretraziel!
15:04:32 <adamw> boop boop boop beep boop boop boop beep
15:04:58 <adamw> alrighty, looks like we've got a good group, even though tflink is here...:P
15:05:46 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:05:55 <adamw> let's see what i forgot last time
15:06:11 <adamw> ooo, nothing! yay me
15:06:18 <adamw> sumantrom: there's one for you in here:
15:06:23 * kparal is here
15:06:24 <adamw> "sumukher to go through open pagure tickets and clean them up (refresh ones that are still valid, close ones that have died of old age)"
15:06:26 <adamw> how's that going?
15:06:35 <tflink> adamw: I can go away if that'd help :-P
15:06:59 <sumantrom> I have closed most of them :)
15:07:16 <adamw> awesome, it's almost like we achieved something :P
15:07:23 <sumantrom> :P
15:07:44 <adamw> so are you all the way through the list, or still a few more to do?
15:08:16 <sumantrom> adamw a few more to go , I will close tonight!
15:08:22 <adamw> great
15:08:43 <adamw> #info "sumukher to go through open pagure tickets and clean them up (refresh ones that are still valid, close ones that have died of old age)" - sumantro is nearly done with this, will be completed tonight
15:08:58 * sumantrom feels sorry for spamming everyone cz closing tickets sends two mails to the whole group
15:09:01 <adamw> that's all the action items from last time, anyone remember anything else we need to check on?
15:09:37 * sumantrom to send drafted test cases for blivet gui matrices to adamw
15:09:51 <adamw> sumantrom: that might be worth a bug report, actually (the 'two mails on close' thing)
15:09:57 * roshi is here
15:09:58 <adamw> sumantrom: best send them to the list so everyone can review :)
15:10:18 <sumantrom> adamw sure!
15:11:22 <adamw> morning roshi
15:11:48 <adamw> #topic Fedora 26 status
15:12:04 <adamw> #info Beta freeze is tomorrow
15:12:13 <sumantrom> roshi, o/ :)
15:12:20 <adamw> we still have several outstanding blockers that are going to need testing, i sent out a status mail on Friday
15:12:37 <adamw> a couple of the ones that need testing now need special installer images built, i'll provide those
15:13:04 <roshi> morning :)
15:13:24 <adamw> #info a blocker status mail went out on Friday, please check that for details of which blocker bugs have fixes that need testing. adamw will provide installer images for bugs that need them today
15:13:41 <adamw> there's also this thing about a mass rebuild for arm...anyone know more about that?
15:15:04 <adamw> *crickets*
15:16:52 <adamw> well:
15:17:21 <adamw> #info we also need to consider https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6781 , which claims a mass rebuild is required for armhfp (a blocking arch); no proper blocker proposal has been made yet
15:17:35 <adamw> sgallagh: ping?
15:17:35 <zodbot> adamw: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
15:17:59 <sgallagh> oh, I thought I saw a cancelation email
15:18:27 <sgallagh> Wait, this isn't the blocker meeting is it?
15:18:55 <adamw> no, it's the qa meeting
15:19:01 <adamw> though there is going to be at least a brief blocker meeting
15:19:04 <sgallagh> Sorry, it's been a chaotic day
15:19:13 <adamw> i just had a question for you: what's the current status of boltron? are we gonna have anything testable at beta time?
15:19:24 <sgallagh> see previous sentence :)
15:19:42 <adamw> heh
15:19:44 <sgallagh> We're racing to finalize things for Freeze
15:20:39 * adamw plays uptempo, dramatic music
15:21:37 <adamw> so, not sure yet?
15:21:43 <sgallagh> Well, it's slushy
15:22:02 <sgallagh> Our artifacts are built differently, so we may actually not be frozen with everything else
15:22:20 <sgallagh> Well, that's an incomplete statement
15:22:39 <sgallagh> The packages we build from will be frozen, but our issues right now are mainly with our compose process
15:22:42 <adamw> #info Boltron status: slushy
15:22:43 <adamw> :P
15:22:48 <adamw> (that was a fake one)
15:22:55 <Kohane> Hi!
15:23:00 <adamw> hi kohane
15:23:04 <Kohane> .fas lailah
15:23:05 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
15:23:09 <sgallagh> So we may be a little late to deliver our artifacts, but right now we're hoping they should be building okay
15:23:33 <sgallagh> We're basically making all of this up as we go along, but we're really trying to deliver concurrently with everything else
15:24:07 <roshi> wait, someone *else* makes it up as they go along?
15:24:24 * roshi thought it was just him :p
15:24:47 * adamw outsources
15:25:01 <adamw> i hired some guy in a call centre to make things up for me
15:25:40 <sgallagh> adamw: That explains the sudden sharp drop in the grammar of your emails :-P
15:25:42 <adamw> #info Boltron (the modular Server image being produced as a PoC for Fedora 26) is being worked on, may be testable by Beta GA
15:25:53 <adamw> sgallagh: well, it's that or the whisky
15:26:04 <adamw> anyone have anything else on F26?
15:26:26 <adamw> i don't think there's anything else unusual or outstanding, we just need to work the blocker treadmill...and of course fill in missing validation tests
15:27:11 <adamw> i guess one thing we should be keeping an eye on is blivet-gui in the installer, whether it's really ready for primetime
15:27:52 <adamw> if anyone has concerns on that front please do say so
15:28:18 * satellit listening and late
15:28:58 <adamw> alrighty then, moving on...
15:29:03 <adamw> morning satellit! how you doing?
15:29:14 <satellit> better
15:29:15 <adamw> jeff was asking after you at lfnw
15:29:17 <adamw> great to hear
15:29:49 <adamw> #topic Test Day status
15:29:53 <sumantrom> adamw, DNF 2.0 est day went well, report is https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AFKCFMHML35QWOK4HBXH5KKZZID2UXQG/
15:30:17 <sumantrom> Next test will be i18n test day : https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/508
15:30:24 <adamw> sumantrom: great. it'd be good to transfer the results from the app to the wiki page; do you know about doing that?
15:30:42 <adamw> #info DNF 2.0 Test Day (on 2017-05-09) went well, see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AFKCFMHML35QWOK4HBXH5KKZZID2UXQG/
15:31:02 <adamw> #info i18n Test Day is on 2017-05-23, see https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/508
15:31:06 <sumantrom> it will be great if you can help me with that adamw
15:31:24 <adamw> sumantrom: i guess there shouldn't be any issue with the i18n test day, since you've dealt with one before and the i18n team knows what to do, right?
15:31:31 <adamw> sumantrom: no problem, i'll send you an email with info later
15:31:41 <sumantrom> Followed by Gnome test Day which is proposed to the desktop mailing list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7EAKNSK5MRBHR6PB7NY3KCUJ5KB7HH37/
15:31:56 <sumantrom> adamw, i18n should run fine! :)
15:32:01 <adamw> great
15:32:11 <adamw> #info a GNOME Test Day is also in the works for later
15:32:25 <adamw> #action adamw to help sumantrom with moving DNF results from app to wiki page
15:33:19 <sumantrom> adamw thanks :)
15:33:53 <adamw> so if folks can be ready to help with the upcoming test days that'd be great :) especially folks outside of the US, for i18n test day, it's great to have coverage from as many places as possible there
15:33:53 <sumantrom> Also LxQT test day to happen , the change owner is ready for one
15:34:14 <adamw> in case you don't know the jargon, 'i18n' is 'internationalization', it's the test day where we test things like non-US keyboard layouts
15:36:05 <adamw> anything else on test days?
15:36:12 <sumantrom> adamw, we have new contributors who can contribute in testing indic lang :)
15:36:22 <adamw> awesome :)
15:36:23 <sumantrom> adamw no nothing else from my side
15:36:45 <Kohane> adamw :  I can help with the i18n test day. I'm in Germany and I write in multiple languages  (using different layouts as well).
15:37:21 <sumantrom> adamw meet srijita_ , she recently started contributing by doing update testing and release validation and took part in DNF 2.0 test day
15:37:37 <adamw> awesome, hi srijita_
15:37:38 <srijita_> hi
15:38:00 <adamw> so just mark the date on your calendars :) I'm sure sumantrom and/or the i18n team will send out announcements closer to the date too
15:38:16 <adamw> #topic New member welcome / onboarding
15:38:19 <sumantrom> adamw, I have done it! :)
15:38:42 <adamw> so first off, if any of our new members are here, welcome to you! feel free to say hi if you like
15:39:17 <srijita_> hi adamw
15:39:32 <adamw> hi! welcome
15:39:40 <adamw> thanks for helping out with the dnf test day
15:39:41 <srijita_> thank you
15:39:59 <srijita_> looking forward to do more
15:40:50 * sumantrom feels we should do a on-boarding like we did in the last cycle!
15:41:12 <adamw> right, that's the other part of this topic
15:41:17 <adamw> if we've got enough folks, it would make sense
15:41:32 <adamw> are you happy to go ahead and organize that, sumantro? anything you need from anyone else?
15:42:00 <sumantrom> adamw I would love to go ahead and organize it! :)
15:42:07 <adamw> great
15:42:16 <hdost> Hi
15:42:20 <adamw> hi hdost!
15:42:28 <sumantrom> hi hdost ! :)
15:42:30 <Kohane> Hi hdost!
15:43:00 <roshi> welcome :)
15:43:40 <hdost> thank you :)
15:43:43 <adamw> so i guess you'll send out announcements and so on after picking a date, sumantro?
15:44:09 <sumantrom> yes adamw
15:44:11 <adamw> #action sumantrom to set up another onboarding session for new members sometime soon
15:44:12 <adamw> great
15:44:35 <adamw> so please keep an eye out for that, new folks - it'll be a video chat session with sumantro helping guide you through some of the QA processes
15:45:24 <sumantrom> I will send out the email with the pool link which will help us fix the time :)
15:45:43 <adamw> great
15:45:49 <adamw> anything else on this topic, folks?
15:46:03 <Kohane> Not from my side
15:46:32 <sumantrom> adamw, not from my side too
15:46:40 <adamw> great
15:46:53 <adamw> man, i'm calling lots of stuff great today
15:47:01 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:47:08 <adamw> so, that's all i had - any other business, folks?
15:47:28 <Kohane> Mmm...  no.
15:47:35 * roshi has nothing to add
15:47:41 <adamw> note there was a new validation candidate on Saturday, so all-new validation pages :) new version of anaconda
15:47:45 <Kohane> I mentioned two issues I had but I didn't file a bug yet.
15:48:02 * satellit looked at cinnamon and soas
15:48:03 <adamw> yep, we'll run at least a mini blocker meeting at the top of the hour for those
15:48:18 <Kohane> Good.
15:48:31 <Kohane> Then I have nothing to say as for now.,'
15:48:33 <sumantrom> the fedora qa classroom is starting somewhere just after the release we will fix the dates and keep it posted as the process if anyone wants to join and help :)
15:49:25 <adamw> sounds great
15:49:48 <adamw> if you're not yet familiar with the Classroom thing, it's written up here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
15:49:54 <adamw> sumantro is putting together a QA Classroom
15:51:15 <Kohane> Thanks adamw  I was going to ask...
15:54:55 <adamw> anything else?
15:55:01 * adamw sets the fuse
15:55:14 <adamw> note, we *will* have a blocker meeting in #fedora-blocker-review in 5 minutes, though it'll probably be short
15:55:30 <Kohane> ok
15:55:47 <sumantrom> adamw thanks for hosting the fedora-qa meeting :)
15:56:59 <adamw> thanks for coming everyone!
15:57:21 <Kohane> thanks to you adamw !
15:57:30 <adamw> #endmeeting