15:01:23 #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:01:23 Meeting started Mon May 15 15:01:23 2017 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_qa_meeting' 15:01:23 #meetingname fedora-qa 15:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:01:25 #topic Roll Call 15:01:32 * sumantrom is here 15:01:43 * pschindl_wfh is here 15:01:44 * garretraziel 15:01:47 morning folks! who's around? 15:02:07 * tflink is around 15:02:20 and who's asquare? 15:02:40 * tflink misunderstood the question 15:02:45 * tflink is definitely a square 15:02:53 :-P 15:03:13 is here 15:04:06 * adamw is adodecahedronic, personally 15:04:18 It's-a Me, garretraziel! 15:04:32 boop boop boop beep boop boop boop beep 15:04:58 alrighty, looks like we've got a good group, even though tflink is here...:P 15:05:46 #topic Previous meeting follow-up 15:05:55 let's see what i forgot last time 15:06:11 ooo, nothing! yay me 15:06:18 sumantrom: there's one for you in here: 15:06:23 * kparal is here 15:06:24 "sumukher to go through open pagure tickets and clean them up (refresh ones that are still valid, close ones that have died of old age)" 15:06:26 how's that going? 15:06:35 adamw: I can go away if that'd help :-P 15:06:59 I have closed most of them :) 15:07:16 awesome, it's almost like we achieved something :P 15:07:23 :P 15:07:44 so are you all the way through the list, or still a few more to do? 15:08:16 adamw a few more to go , I will close tonight! 15:08:22 great 15:08:43 #info "sumukher to go through open pagure tickets and clean them up (refresh ones that are still valid, close ones that have died of old age)" - sumantro is nearly done with this, will be completed tonight 15:08:58 * sumantrom feels sorry for spamming everyone cz closing tickets sends two mails to the whole group 15:09:01 that's all the action items from last time, anyone remember anything else we need to check on? 15:09:37 * sumantrom to send drafted test cases for blivet gui matrices to adamw 15:09:51 sumantrom: that might be worth a bug report, actually (the 'two mails on close' thing) 15:09:57 * roshi is here 15:09:58 sumantrom: best send them to the list so everyone can review :) 15:10:18 adamw sure! 15:11:22 morning roshi 15:11:48 #topic Fedora 26 status 15:12:04 #info Beta freeze is tomorrow 15:12:13 roshi, o/ :) 15:12:20 we still have several outstanding blockers that are going to need testing, i sent out a status mail on Friday 15:12:37 a couple of the ones that need testing now need special installer images built, i'll provide those 15:13:04 morning :) 15:13:24 #info a blocker status mail went out on Friday, please check that for details of which blocker bugs have fixes that need testing. adamw will provide installer images for bugs that need them today 15:13:41 there's also this thing about a mass rebuild for arm...anyone know more about that? 15:15:04 *crickets* 15:16:52 well: 15:17:21 #info we also need to consider https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6781 , which claims a mass rebuild is required for armhfp (a blocking arch); no proper blocker proposal has been made yet 15:17:35 sgallagh: ping? 15:17:35 adamw: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings 15:17:59 oh, I thought I saw a cancelation email 15:18:27 Wait, this isn't the blocker meeting is it? 15:18:55 no, it's the qa meeting 15:19:01 though there is going to be at least a brief blocker meeting 15:19:04 Sorry, it's been a chaotic day 15:19:13 i just had a question for you: what's the current status of boltron? are we gonna have anything testable at beta time? 15:19:24 see previous sentence :) 15:19:42 heh 15:19:44 We're racing to finalize things for Freeze 15:20:39 * adamw plays uptempo, dramatic music 15:21:37 so, not sure yet? 15:21:43 Well, it's slushy 15:22:02 Our artifacts are built differently, so we may actually not be frozen with everything else 15:22:20 Well, that's an incomplete statement 15:22:39 The packages we build from will be frozen, but our issues right now are mainly with our compose process 15:22:42 #info Boltron status: slushy 15:22:43 :P 15:22:48 (that was a fake one) 15:22:55 Hi! 15:23:00 hi kohane 15:23:04 .fas lailah 15:23:05 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 15:23:09 So we may be a little late to deliver our artifacts, but right now we're hoping they should be building okay 15:23:33 We're basically making all of this up as we go along, but we're really trying to deliver concurrently with everything else 15:24:07 wait, someone *else* makes it up as they go along? 15:24:24 * roshi thought it was just him :p 15:24:47 * adamw outsources 15:25:01 i hired some guy in a call centre to make things up for me 15:25:40 adamw: That explains the sudden sharp drop in the grammar of your emails :-P 15:25:42 #info Boltron (the modular Server image being produced as a PoC for Fedora 26) is being worked on, may be testable by Beta GA 15:25:53 sgallagh: well, it's that or the whisky 15:26:04 anyone have anything else on F26? 15:26:26 i don't think there's anything else unusual or outstanding, we just need to work the blocker treadmill...and of course fill in missing validation tests 15:27:11 i guess one thing we should be keeping an eye on is blivet-gui in the installer, whether it's really ready for primetime 15:27:52 if anyone has concerns on that front please do say so 15:28:18 * satellit listening and late 15:28:58 alrighty then, moving on... 15:29:03 morning satellit! how you doing? 15:29:14 better 15:29:15 jeff was asking after you at lfnw 15:29:17 great to hear 15:29:49 #topic Test Day status 15:29:53 adamw, DNF 2.0 est day went well, report is https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AFKCFMHML35QWOK4HBXH5KKZZID2UXQG/ 15:30:17 Next test will be i18n test day : https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/508 15:30:24 sumantrom: great. it'd be good to transfer the results from the app to the wiki page; do you know about doing that? 15:30:42 #info DNF 2.0 Test Day (on 2017-05-09) went well, see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AFKCFMHML35QWOK4HBXH5KKZZID2UXQG/ 15:31:02 #info i18n Test Day is on 2017-05-23, see https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/508 15:31:06 it will be great if you can help me with that adamw 15:31:24 sumantrom: i guess there shouldn't be any issue with the i18n test day, since you've dealt with one before and the i18n team knows what to do, right? 15:31:31 sumantrom: no problem, i'll send you an email with info later 15:31:41 Followed by Gnome test Day which is proposed to the desktop mailing list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7EAKNSK5MRBHR6PB7NY3KCUJ5KB7HH37/ 15:31:56 adamw, i18n should run fine! :) 15:32:01 great 15:32:11 #info a GNOME Test Day is also in the works for later 15:32:25 #action adamw to help sumantrom with moving DNF results from app to wiki page 15:33:19 adamw thanks :) 15:33:53 so if folks can be ready to help with the upcoming test days that'd be great :) especially folks outside of the US, for i18n test day, it's great to have coverage from as many places as possible there 15:33:53 Also LxQT test day to happen , the change owner is ready for one 15:34:14 in case you don't know the jargon, 'i18n' is 'internationalization', it's the test day where we test things like non-US keyboard layouts 15:36:05 anything else on test days? 15:36:12 adamw, we have new contributors who can contribute in testing indic lang :) 15:36:22 awesome :) 15:36:23 adamw no nothing else from my side 15:36:45 adamw : I can help with the i18n test day. I'm in Germany and I write in multiple languages (using different layouts as well). 15:37:21 adamw meet srijita_ , she recently started contributing by doing update testing and release validation and took part in DNF 2.0 test day 15:37:37 awesome, hi srijita_ 15:37:38 hi 15:38:00 so just mark the date on your calendars :) I'm sure sumantrom and/or the i18n team will send out announcements closer to the date too 15:38:16 #topic New member welcome / onboarding 15:38:19 adamw, I have done it! :) 15:38:42 so first off, if any of our new members are here, welcome to you! feel free to say hi if you like 15:39:17 hi adamw 15:39:32 hi! welcome 15:39:40 thanks for helping out with the dnf test day 15:39:41 thank you 15:39:59 looking forward to do more 15:40:50 * sumantrom feels we should do a on-boarding like we did in the last cycle! 15:41:12 right, that's the other part of this topic 15:41:17 if we've got enough folks, it would make sense 15:41:32 are you happy to go ahead and organize that, sumantro? anything you need from anyone else? 15:42:00 adamw I would love to go ahead and organize it! :) 15:42:07 great 15:42:16 Hi 15:42:20 hi hdost! 15:42:28 hi hdost ! :) 15:42:30 Hi hdost! 15:43:00 welcome :) 15:43:40 thank you :) 15:43:43 so i guess you'll send out announcements and so on after picking a date, sumantro? 15:44:09 yes adamw 15:44:11 #action sumantrom to set up another onboarding session for new members sometime soon 15:44:12 great 15:44:35 so please keep an eye out for that, new folks - it'll be a video chat session with sumantro helping guide you through some of the QA processes 15:45:24 I will send out the email with the pool link which will help us fix the time :) 15:45:43 great 15:45:49 anything else on this topic, folks? 15:46:03 Not from my side 15:46:32 adamw, not from my side too 15:46:40 great 15:46:53 man, i'm calling lots of stuff great today 15:47:01 #topic Open floor 15:47:08 so, that's all i had - any other business, folks? 15:47:28 Mmm... no. 15:47:35 * roshi has nothing to add 15:47:41 note there was a new validation candidate on Saturday, so all-new validation pages :) new version of anaconda 15:47:45 I mentioned two issues I had but I didn't file a bug yet. 15:48:02 * satellit looked at cinnamon and soas 15:48:03 yep, we'll run at least a mini blocker meeting at the top of the hour for those 15:48:18 Good. 15:48:31 Then I have nothing to say as for now.,' 15:48:33 the fedora qa classroom is starting somewhere just after the release we will fix the dates and keep it posted as the process if anyone wants to join and help :) 15:49:25 sounds great 15:49:48 if you're not yet familiar with the Classroom thing, it's written up here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom 15:49:54 sumantro is putting together a QA Classroom 15:51:15 Thanks adamw I was going to ask... 15:54:55 anything else? 15:55:01 * adamw sets the fuse 15:55:14 note, we *will* have a blocker meeting in #fedora-blocker-review in 5 minutes, though it'll probably be short 15:55:30 ok 15:55:47 adamw thanks for hosting the fedora-qa meeting :) 15:56:59 thanks for coming everyone! 15:57:21 thanks to you adamw ! 15:57:30 #endmeeting