21:00:06 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:00:10 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:00:13 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:00:17 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:18 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:01:09 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:01:10 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:01:22 <ryanlerch> good morning stickster!
21:01:35 <ryanlerch> loved the easytag article!
21:01:44 <jhogarth> .hello2
21:01:46 <jhogarth> oh that doesn't work anymore?
21:01:48 <jhogarth> .hello jhogarth
21:01:48 <zodbot> jhogarth: jhogarth 'James Hogarth' <james.hogarth@gmail.com>
21:01:51 <zodbot> jhogarth: jhogarth 'James Hogarth' <james.hogarth@gmail.com>
21:01:56 <jhogarth> oh haha just slow
21:01:57 <sub_pop> omg. easytag is a sweet piece of software
21:02:28 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
21:02:29 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
21:02:46 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch jhogarth sub_pop
21:02:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: jhogarth ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
21:02:48 <stickster> Hi all!
21:03:19 <stickster> Give me 1 min to sort out other fallout, be right back
21:03:59 <ryanlerch> stickster: ack
21:04:05 <ryanlerch> morning sub_pop jhogarth
21:04:09 <jhogarth> evening
21:04:31 <stickster> OK, back!
21:04:44 <stickster> #topic Last week review
21:05:08 <stickster> Sorry for being slow, I just got out of a meeting briefing our CTO and it went long
21:06:04 <stickster> #info Last week's views 46K... slightly down from 51K the previous week
21:06:35 <stickster> #info May 2017 views 217,105... down slightly from 226.5K in April
21:06:43 <stickster> unfortunately not the right trend :-(
21:07:08 <stickster> Let's see if we can start June off on a better foot :-)
21:07:38 <sub_pop> will we have f26 content for/in June?
21:08:01 <stickster> sub_pop: at this point Beta is happening in June, release likely in July
21:08:13 <sub_pop> :[
21:08:19 <stickster> We could use the public Beta to build some steam toward the release though.
21:08:43 <ryanlerch> yeah, hopefully the fact that we havent had a release yet will boost the stats a bit
21:09:27 <stickster> #idea articles that show some new release goodies in the distro, that aren't too esoteric (for instance, not just lists of "new version of libfoo," but rather specific features users/devs/sysadmins can use that make life better)
21:09:56 <ryanlerch> stickster: great idea!
21:10:11 <ryanlerch> we could scan the feature pages for candidates?
21:10:35 * ryanlerch knows of a couple off the top of his head -- like the python classroom spin
21:10:45 <stickster> Oh wow, I didn't even know that was a thing.
21:11:15 <ryanlerch> s/spin/lab/
21:11:33 <ryanlerch> yeah i was helping them do the labs.fp.org page for it
21:12:01 <stickster> Some examples might be: new stuff in Cockpit on the Server edition; new GNOME goodies on Workstation edition; fresh spins/labs
21:12:30 <stickster> Let's take this one to the list to discuss, ryanlerch will you kick that off with an email?
21:12:43 <ryanlerch> stickster: ack, give me an action!
21:12:49 <stickster> woohoo
21:13:12 <stickster> #action ryanlerch kick off list discussion on Beta teaser articles of user-facing features
21:13:27 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
21:13:29 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
21:13:48 <stickster> Thank you to cprofitt for getting something in... I moved it to this status :-)
21:13:58 <ryanlerch> cprofitt++
21:14:00 <stickster> #info --- HDYF ---
21:14:02 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=17614&action=edit
21:14:51 <ryanlerch> cprofitt: wooo, this is a great one!
21:14:59 <stickster> cprofitt++++++
21:15:13 <stickster> #action stickster do an editing pass and set up for publishing tomorrow 0800 UTC
21:15:21 <stickster> (I already told him I'd do this for him) :-)
21:16:05 <stickster> OK, that's it... draft time!
21:16:07 <stickster> #topic Draft posts
21:16:14 <stickster> https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
21:16:50 <stickster> #info --- Beta release announcement ---
21:17:05 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17583&preview=1&_ppp=667ae9a01d
21:17:14 <stickster> x3mboy[m]: Thanks for working on this!
21:17:41 * stickster summons mattdm: is there still work ahead for this article?
21:17:57 <ryanlerch> there are a couple of oppotunities here for links to magazine posts
21:18:18 <ryanlerch> i.e. night-light and media creator have just had magazine articles
21:18:58 <ryanlerch> also some screenshots might help to breack up the wall of text
21:19:19 <stickster> ryanlerch: agreed... I think there's some editing work needed too, but I also know that mattdm and others will have more to add here
21:19:19 <ryanlerch> otherwise, i think it is a good level of detail for the beta release announcement
21:19:26 <stickster> agreed
21:20:24 <stickster> sub_pop: jhogarth: Would either of you be interested in taking up a couple screenshots for this article announcement?
21:21:08 <stickster> A shot of blivet-gui in action (could be done from e.g. the Live Workstation image, just run installer in a virtual guest and take a screenshot)
21:21:28 <jhogarth> stickster, I've got F26 on my laptop already ... or yes I can grab it from VM
21:21:40 <stickster> for sure
21:22:05 * stickster usually suggests live image since it means you can avoid any personal user-side decoration differences
21:22:16 <jhogarth> My UI is very vanilla :P
21:22:30 <jhogarth> my vim on the other hand ... ;)
21:22:31 <stickster> maybe a cockpit screenshot would be cool too
21:22:33 <stickster> lol
21:22:41 <sub_pop> i'm addicted to trying new themes, but always fall back to the defaults
21:22:58 <stickster> #action jhogarth take screenshots for the Beta release announcement
21:23:07 <jhogarth> sure ... I'll try and pick out a few different screen shots to align with different parts of the article
21:23:15 <stickster> jhogarth++
21:23:18 <stickster> Anything else we want to do with this one?
21:24:14 <ryanlerch> stickster: do you know when beta is curently sceduled?
21:24:27 <stickster> ryanlerch: hrmm... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule says...
21:24:33 <stickster> June 6
21:24:50 <ryanlerch> should we set a date to get this finaliased?
21:24:57 <stickster> but there was a go/no-go meeting today, I haven't looked at results since I was in meetings
21:25:28 * ryanlerch can be responsible for the featured image for this one too
21:25:40 <stickster> #action ryanlerch make featured image for Beta release announcement
21:27:12 <stickster> ryanlerch: I still don't see an announcement for go/no-go
21:27:45 * stickster will have to follow up on this later
21:27:50 <stickster> should we move on?
21:27:56 <ryanlerch> yes!
21:28:42 <stickster> OK, very little new text on the magazine, so let's go to "grab bag" mode
21:28:55 <stickster> #topic Build out publishing schedule
21:29:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: do you know whether x3mboy[m] was ready to have his JED article reviewed?
21:29:35 <stickster> It doesn't look done to me
21:29:50 <ryanlerch> stickster: i do not
21:30:01 <ryanlerch> yeah, havent heard anything
21:30:30 <stickster> OK, no worries. it's still in Pitch mode anyway. jhogarth, sub_pop, do you have any ideas or drafts in the making you'd like to share?
21:30:44 <ryanlerch> we still have a gtile re-publish in the backup pile
21:31:00 <ryanlerch> jhogarth: what was the date for that ansible post again?
21:31:02 <stickster> ryanlerch: yep, could use that Monday if needed
21:31:29 <sub_pop> i'm empty :(
21:31:51 <jhogarth> ryanlerch, AnsibleFest is June 22nd, so I was targeting within a few days of that
21:31:58 <ryanlerch> the new writer on the list, Bertel King, basically pitched a gthumb post
21:32:45 <jhogarth> I'm part way through a firewalld & nftables article on my own blog but I don't think I'll have time to get that finished there, much less polished and ported to FM next week
21:33:35 <stickster> sub_pop: How would you like to do an article on one of these topics? (1) Games spin overview; (2) How to verify a Fedora ISO file; (3) AlternateTab GNOME Shell extension
21:33:52 <stickster> these are all good ideas without anyone working on them, so I could assign it to you to create
21:33:58 <stickster> take your pick!
21:34:27 <sub_pop> oh sure. how about the games spin. that's kinda turning into my article area
21:34:50 <stickster> sub_pop: brilliant!
21:34:59 <stickster> sub_pop: Do you think you could write something by next Wednesday?
21:35:34 <stickster> IMHO it doesn't need to list everything on the spin, but maybe a selection of more popular things in a couple categories (like strategy, card games, whatever)
21:35:40 <sub_pop> maybe. life's very busy, so my free time is limited, but i can give it a try.
21:35:57 <stickster> sub_pop: OK, if you can't commit to that date, why don't you tell me a date you feel comfortable committing to :-)
21:36:18 * stickster totally identifies with the limite free time :-D
21:36:39 <sub_pop> maybe the 14th. the following weds
21:36:52 <stickster> OK, cool
21:37:09 <stickster> #action sub_pop write up Games spin overview article, finish by Wed 2017-06-14 for review
21:37:21 <stickster> I'll check in with you next week to see how it's going
21:37:49 <stickster> ryanlerch: I'm into a gthumb article, sounds good
21:38:10 <ryanlerch> it is a new writer though, so not sure about it for this week
21:38:25 <ryanlerch> i can do the verify ISO for this week if we need it
21:38:37 <aludwar> hey folks, i reached out to the mailing list a little while ago inquiring about becoming an author and making some pitches. i chatted with ryanlerch a little bit but admittedly have been tardy on syncing up on getting access to create pitches/posts & submit for review.
21:38:47 <stickster> aludwar: hi!
21:38:52 <aludwar> stickster: hello!
21:38:54 <ryanlerch> aludwar: morning!
21:39:09 <aludwar> finally nice to make some time and catch you all for the meeting :)
21:39:47 <stickster> indeed! welcome and thanks for coming. have you checked out https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/ already ?
21:40:04 <aludwar> i don't have anything immediately ready for a pitch, but could throw some ideas/drafts together in the next couple weeks
21:40:11 <aludwar> stickster: yup, I'm at step 3 there now :)
21:40:20 <stickster> awesome!
21:40:30 <ryanlerch> fantastic!
21:40:31 <aludwar> I think I need access to the wordpress to create some drafts?
21:40:45 * stickster doing it right now
21:41:01 <aludwar> you tell me what I should do next, and ill jump through the hoops :)
21:41:22 <stickster> You're now an author and can create pitches, drafts etc. on the WordPress instance
21:41:40 <aludwar> stickster++ ryanlerch++ awesome! tyvm!
21:41:40 <zodbot> aludwar: Karma for pfrields changed to 14 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:41:43 <zodbot> aludwar: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 14 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:41:51 <stickster> WOOO COOKIE PARTY
21:42:01 <ryanlerch> \o/
21:42:14 <stickster> aludwar: Would you be interested in a small, easy article to cut teeth?
21:42:42 <aludwar> stickster: sure! seems like a good way to get aquainted
21:42:43 <ryanlerch> aludwar: yeah, pitches dont need to be anything elaborate, jsut a quick description of what a post is going to be
21:43:19 <stickster> aludwar: there's a pitch already in the hopper for an article on the AlternateTab GNOME Shell extension, for example
21:43:32 <stickster> aludwar: But if you have another idea, we can consider the pitch here "live"
21:44:44 <stickster> aludwar: any preference?
21:44:48 <aludwar> let me check the hopper, I can take an easy article to get acquainted, then try some more polished ideas
21:45:17 <aludwar> im sysadmin/openstack background, was thinking of doing some ISP bandwidth monitoring article with grafana/smokeping
21:45:18 <stickster> aludwar: the "starter pitches" category is a good place to look
21:45:21 <aludwar> ack
21:45:32 <ryanlerch> aludwar: we don't really cover much cloud stuff (yet) on the magazine -- is that something that might interest you?
21:45:42 <stickster> aludwar: I like the idea a lot... we haven't had a sysadmin focused article in a few weeks
21:46:09 <aludwar> another idea I had was a DNS cache server over a VPN for extra privacy, with all the concern for data soveriegnty with ISPs and that these days
21:46:34 <aludwar> yup, i can try some cloud stuff, best with openstack, but can always pick away and see what I can figure out with other tech :)
21:46:43 <stickster> the trick is to be specific enough that the article doesn't need to be too long, while not being so esoteric that few readers bother reading it
21:46:53 <aludwar> right. ok. makes sense.
21:47:47 <stickster> aludwar: The DNS cache server over VPN is a great idea -- targeted and finite but privacy is a hot topic, so it's very appealing
21:48:58 <stickster> aludwar: is that something you'd like to write for next week? If you had a draft Wed we could edit and publish by Friday
21:49:06 <stickster> no time like the present
21:49:43 <jhogarth> stickster, oi what about my NetworkManager and certbot articles ... not sysadmin ... bah :p
21:50:06 <stickster> jhogarth: OHH! certbot, I totally forgot about that, even though I edited it... DUUHHH!!
21:50:10 * stickster sorry
21:50:25 <aludwar> stickster: let me try the starter/hopper place first. i wrote some rough drafts on both topics for my personal blog, but will need some polish for public consumption
21:50:27 <stickster> And I use it all the time too... double-duhh
21:50:30 * jhogarth grumbles wondering why he contributes :p
21:51:00 <stickster> jhogarth: honest mistake, I'm old and I've had a lot of beer pass over my brain cells
21:51:21 <jhogarth> haha no worries
21:51:23 <aludwar> haha
21:51:36 * stickster wishes he had some after today :-D
21:51:43 <stickster> beer, not brain cells. no wait.
21:51:56 <stickster> there's no way that doesn't sound bad
21:52:04 <sub_pop> it's almost friday
21:52:30 <stickster> aludwar: it would be cool if you picked something and tried your hand at it in the next few days. We are always looking for new writers and the best way to get involved is just jump in
21:52:47 <stickster> we can do pretty good polishing on the editor side
21:52:59 <stickster> but srsly, no pressure
21:53:07 <stickster> just pick something you like and go for it
21:53:23 <stickster> So in terms of publishing schedule... right now we have...
21:53:28 <aludwar> stickster: ack ok, will do :)
21:53:30 <stickster> Mon: gTile, I guess
21:53:35 <stickster> Tue: Beta... maybe?
21:53:58 <stickster> Hang on, I forgot tomorrow: HDYF
21:54:09 <stickster> Wed: Verify ISO?
21:54:25 <stickster> Fri: ?? maybe aludwar article
21:54:29 <stickster> did I miss someone/something?
21:55:23 <ryanlerch> no, that looks like it!
21:55:37 <ryanlerch> i can prep the gtile one for monday too
21:55:40 <stickster> Okies. I will wrack my brain for Fri, but at worst I can do the AlternateTab article
21:55:52 <stickster> ryanlerch: cool, thanks! It shouldn't be too hard, main thing is an image needed IIRC
21:55:57 <stickster> since it's a resched
21:56:01 <sub_pop> hey did we ever talk about the mp3 license, or netflix working in Firefox?
21:56:26 <stickster> There was an article on each of those I think?
21:56:51 <sub_pop> i've been out of it for the last few weeks, so i probably missed them.
21:57:00 <ryanlerch> yeah, the netflix one was covered by jiri but we linked to it on the socials
21:57:09 <sub_pop> cool ok
21:57:19 <ryanlerch> it got pretty big coverage, so i decided to to do another post about it
21:58:28 <stickster> #agreed Publishing schedule: Fri Jun 2 - HDYF... Mon Jun 5 - gTile... Tue Jun 6 - F26 Beta (TBA)... Wed Jun 7 - Verify an ISO file... Fri Jun 9 - AlternateTab g-s extension
21:58:36 <stickster> #topic All other business
21:59:46 * stickster has one thing... just encouraging people to be bold about pitching ideas on the list or here in IRC.  Authors are gold!  Main thing is to discuss ideas in advance so the writing is as easy as possible. Then it's possible to turn them out faster as you go
22:00:17 <stickster> It's possible to write a short article of 300 words or so in 15-30 minutes
22:00:18 <ryanlerch> stickster: agreed +1
22:00:45 <stickster> ryanlerch is the king of short, punchy articles in no time... but he's only one guy :-D
22:01:12 <stickster> jhogarth: sub_pop: aludwar: thank you guys for coming to the meeting! Same bat time, bat channel every week :-)
22:01:24 * stickster holds door open for 30 sec for other business
22:01:25 <ryanlerch> stickster: thanks for chairing, as always
22:01:53 <sub_pop> o/
22:02:14 <aludwar> makese sense! i will try to be proactive with the pitches, i tend to be more thorough than I need to sometimes
22:02:23 <aludwar> thanks for organizing and for the help/support!
22:03:43 <stickster> see y'all next week :-)
22:03:45 <stickster> #endmeeting