06:00:23 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
06:00:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 21 06:00:23 2017 UTC.  The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:00:23 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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06:00:23 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:24 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-06-21
06:00:52 <mfabian> Hi!
06:01:00 <epico> hi
06:01:37 <pravins> hi :)
06:01:57 <paragan> Hi
06:02:12 <paragan> #chair mfabian epico pravins
06:02:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian paragan pravins
06:02:37 <juhp> hi
06:03:28 <paragan> #chair juhp
06:03:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico juhp mfabian paragan pravins
06:03:31 <paragan> let's start
06:03:38 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:03:39 <paragan> #info 2017-06-13   Beta Release
06:03:39 <paragan> #info 2017-06-27   Final Freeze
06:03:39 <paragan> #info 2017-07-11   F26 GA
06:03:56 <paragan> so we have ^^ upcoming schedule for Fedora 26
06:04:08 <paragan> Last week F26 Beta was released
06:04:23 <paragan> anyone tried that release?
06:04:44 <mfabian> I installed in in a vm and found no big problems.
06:04:45 <pravins> not yet, may be time to upgrade machine.
06:04:53 <mfabian> I also updated all my machines to F26 yesterday.
06:05:05 <paragan> mfabian++
06:05:06 <mfabian> Works fine so far.
06:05:39 <mfabian> “ibus emoji” also works for me on real hardware, I don’t know why it crashes for me in the vm.
06:06:42 <paragan> oh
06:08:24 <paragan> I think we should be good for this Fedora 26 release from i18n perspective
06:08:54 <paragan> If anyone still got any important fix to be pushed then final freeze is on 27th June
06:09:14 <paragan> and then 11th July marked as GA
06:10:25 <paragan> We also need to look into Fedora 27 schedule
06:10:30 <pravins> We are working on making google-noto-sans-sinhala-fonts as a default for Sinhala language
06:10:35 <pravins> i hope, it will be in for F26.
06:10:46 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule
06:11:27 <juhp> pravins: good
06:11:31 <juhp> saw your PR
06:11:37 <paragan> I am not sure if its being followed strictly along with F26 schedule, if it is then yesterday was Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
06:11:50 <juhp> woot?
06:11:54 <paragan> and then
06:11:58 <paragan> 2017-07-04 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
06:12:20 <pravins> We should not wait for F27 change proposals.
06:12:25 <pravins> mfabian: i think good to propose Unicode 10
06:12:42 <paragan> Fedora 27 looks short development cycle so we should start thinking for any Change proposals
06:12:47 <juhp> paragan: surely it's not up to date??
06:12:50 <paragan> and submit it as soon as possible
06:13:08 <mfabian> For F26? I am already working on the F26 package for glibc Unicode 10.
06:13:17 <mfabian> Shouldn’t this go to F26 as well?
06:13:26 <paragan> I am under assumption that Feodra PM when makes change in F26 schedule should change F27 same time
06:13:31 <juhp> though F26 date is correct, hmm
06:13:49 <juhp> paragan: okay i haven't been following
06:14:02 <juhp> it would be first time the schedules overlap ever afaik
06:14:08 <pravins> mfabian: since in Unicode 10, we also update other packages, and final freeze is 27th
06:14:24 <pravins> may be good to have Change proposal to get specific attention to it.
06:14:27 <paragan> Also note that since Fedora 27 we will not be having Alpha release
06:14:28 <pravins> Dunno what other feels?
06:14:30 <pravins> #chair
06:14:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico juhp mfabian paragan pravins
06:14:53 <juhp> I built unicode-ucd-10 yesterday thinking it had already been released
06:15:09 <mfabian> juhp: I think it was released, it was a bit confusing.
06:15:17 <juhp> okay!
06:15:28 <juhp> the filename changed
06:15:35 <mfabian> For a while, the text “Draft“ was still on the announcement page, then it suddenly disappeared.
06:16:42 <mfabian> And the announcement mail from Unicode had the date “Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:46:12 -0700”, so it was indeed released yesterday.
06:16:43 <paragan> I saw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode also got updated for "Unicode 10 Release"
06:17:15 <mfabian> It is a pity that there is no font which has the new emoji ☹
06:17:54 <paragan> #link http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode10.0.0/
06:19:15 <paragan> Okay let's move to tickets
06:19:25 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issues
06:19:25 <paragan> #info #74: I18N test day for Fedora 26
06:19:26 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/74
06:19:39 <juhp> mfabian: yes for some definition of yesterday :-)
06:21:02 <paragan> So this was pending on me to write a report.
06:21:15 <paragan> I will do that soon, was busy last week
06:21:41 <paragan> Also we have awarded Fedora test day badges last week only.
06:22:09 <paragan> #action paragan to prepare test day report by next week
06:23:05 <pravins> thanks paragan for badges 👍
06:23:31 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017
06:23:31 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72
06:23:43 <pravins> no update on this.
06:24:07 <paragan> Okay, hope to see some update on this by next meeting
06:24:25 <paragan> next ticket
06:24:32 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
06:24:33 <paragan> #info #75: Docs Beat for Fedora 26
06:24:33 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/75
06:25:57 <paragan> I am not sure if anyone likes to help here
06:26:31 <paragan> good if Change owners can take initiative to write doc beats also
06:27:37 <pravins> in docs beat- we do not write about Change proposals but other changes than Change proposals
06:28:03 <pravins> Change proposals are already get attention from release announcements - Change set etc.
06:28:19 <pravins> but - yes mostly need contribution
06:28:24 <paragan> right I assume then we have not much to add there
06:28:51 <pravins> For F25 - i was used to go through all the new packages added in timeframe - bug fixes etc.
06:29:23 <paragan> okay
06:30:04 <paragan> I have not time for this ticket hence request someone else to take initiative to write this
06:30:10 <paragan> s/not/no/
06:31:27 <paragan> okay let's move, hope we will get someone to work on this ticket
06:31:45 <paragan> #info #63: Fedora 24 Bug triaging
06:31:45 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63
06:32:02 <juhp> I am happy to help with docsbeat
06:32:30 <pravins> I am going to work on liberation-fonts bug in coming week, will triage all the bugs
06:32:40 <paragan> juhp, thanks, I will assign the ticket to you :)
06:32:49 <juhp> okay
06:34:12 <paragan> we still have 39 bugs reported against F24 which are not worked on
06:34:29 <paragan> out of which 28 are in NEW state
06:35:37 <paragan> mostly owned by pravins and fujiwarat
06:36:20 <paragan> Please look into them and if needed move to rawhide
06:36:33 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:36:37 <pravins> sure.
06:36:45 <pravins> we have one more ticket
06:36:50 <paragan> anyone got any other topic to discuss?
06:36:52 <pravins> i created it yesterday, regarding liberation fonts
06:36:55 <paragan> okay
06:37:22 <pravins> #info Liberation fonts separating 1 and 2
06:37:26 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/77
06:37:36 <pravins> need your opinion about this.
06:37:38 <paragan> aha
06:37:51 <pravins> i have also sent email to devel list yesterday, i already got few comments
06:38:14 <pravins> problem: We are managing 2 different liberation fonts version in same git
06:38:29 <pravins> both are fairly different though shapes are same.
06:38:42 <pravins> lots of confusion for managing and fixing issues
06:38:53 <pravins> so proposing to separate project from liberation 1 and liberation 2
06:39:12 <pravins> email also available on i18n list
06:39:56 <paragan> +1 to separate them
06:42:22 <paragan> If there is nothing more to discuss then we can close the meeting
06:42:42 <pravins> #chair
06:42:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico juhp mfabian paragan pravins
06:42:52 <pravins> please comment on ticket or email thread
06:42:53 <pravins> thanks
06:43:50 <juhp> pravins: +1 too
06:44:55 <pravins> how about the name inside fonts?
06:45:18 <pravins> should it be liberation1 and liberation2 ?
06:47:05 <paragan> good to keep different names to differentiate between them
06:47:20 <pravins> i liked the idea from mattdm about liberation fonts classic
06:48:02 <pravins> ok, i will update you all by next meeting for this.
06:48:11 <pravins> please comment on thread
06:51:01 <paragan> Okay, Thanks all who came for this meeting
06:51:04 <paragan> #endmeeting