01:00:49 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:49 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 14 01:00:49 2017 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:49 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:05 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA 01:01:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:09 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:01:23 <award3535> #chair bexelbie reher 01:01:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie reher 01:01:48 <award3535> evening reher 01:01:59 <bexelbie> .hello bex 01:02:00 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com> 01:02:21 <reher> hi award3535 01:02:30 <bexelbie> I happen to be in a US appropriate timezone so I wanted to join 01:02:46 <award3535> hopefully we will have more since there is another ticket 01:03:04 <award3535> bexelbie, that is wonderful where are you at now 01:03:13 <bexelbie> I am at the LATAM Organizational FAD - they have been discussing a lot of the same questions going on in NA - good stuff 01:03:16 * bexelbie is in Peru 01:03:25 <award3535> cool 01:03:30 <reher> hello bexelbie 01:03:58 <reher> you must have some lomo saltado 01:04:02 <bexelbie> It'd be great to see some cross-regional collaboration on the questions around how to evaluate what we do, etc. There may also be some event ideas that are useful 01:04:09 <bexelbie> Hi reher 01:04:16 <bexelbie> I'll ask some one here to help me with that :) 01:04:22 * bexelbie is not a Spanish speaker 01:04:35 * mikedep333 is here 01:04:45 <mikedep333> Sorry, was replying to https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/181 01:04:48 <award3535> #chair mikedep333 01:04:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie mikedep333 reher 01:05:14 <award3535> mikedep333 that was one of the items that I was going to cover tonight 01:05:36 <award3535> #chair jsandys 01:05:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys mikedep333 reher 01:05:40 <jsandys> computing al fresco 01:05:44 <award3535> evening jsandys 01:06:08 <award3535> ok moving on.... 01:06:13 <award3535> #topic === Announcements === 01:07:08 <award3535> #info If you didn't get a chance to read the SELF report 01:07:08 <award3535> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=4028&preview=1&_ppp=6ba9d39410 01:08:04 <award3535> Does anyone have anything else for the announcements before I move on 01:09:08 <award3535> ok I will post some things that are forth coming in planning events 01:10:14 <award3535> The first item is going to be required in generation and budget tickets need to answer or cover the following 01:10:22 <award3535> 1. What is the focus of the event from a Fedora point of view? 01:10:42 <award3535> 2. How does our attendance at this event build users of or contributors to the Fedora platform overall? 01:11:10 <award3535> 3. How does our attendance at this event build users of or contributors to specific Fedora solutions — and why are those particular solutions strategically important? 01:11:27 <award3535> 4. How will success be measured? If the event doesn't meet its benchmarks, how will we adjust? 01:12:57 <award3535> This is a new initiative that must be on your wiki page and included in your write up 01:13:11 <mikedep333> Understood. 01:13:23 <jsandys> How will success be measured? 01:14:16 <award3535> mikedep333 as you saw in the ticket that is the new format, more guidance to follow when the council gets the initiative documentation complete 01:14:21 <jsandys> Part of an event is intangible 'good will' 01:15:04 <juggler> hello 01:15:13 <award3535> jsandys that is what we need to come up with, for instance, I bring a survey sheet for visiting individuals to fill out and I put it thru the grinder 01:15:20 <award3535> #chair juggler 01:15:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys juggler mikedep333 reher 01:15:22 <jsandys> initiative documentation? URL? 01:15:41 <award3535> jsandys its not ready yet 01:15:53 <jsandys> draft? 01:16:16 <award3535> I was assured by mattdm that it was in the works 01:16:58 <award3535> I also put myself on the council mailing list so that I would see the changes coming out 01:17:49 <award3535> the bottom line is we as a group should be able to meet the requirements put forth by our leaders 01:18:05 * kk4ewt is here 01:18:14 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt 01:18:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys juggler kk4ewt mikedep333 reher 01:18:14 <juggler> hello kk4ewt 01:18:33 <award3535> bexelbie, do you have anything more you can add to this 01:18:44 <bexelbie> sure 01:19:07 <bexelbie> My understanding is that Matthew offered these questions as how he thinks about events 01:19:22 <bexelbie> The council wants all ambassador groups to thinkabout events and evaluate them 01:19:30 <bexelbie> we don't expect everything to be a 100% success 01:19:39 <bexelbie> pushing yourself and trying new things is going to mean somethings don't work 01:20:00 <bexelbie> knowing what you expected and then figuring out how to adjust is a natural process to think about for any event, even recurring ones 01:20:17 <bexelbie> the other portion of this is trying to focus the majority of our effort on things that support hte mission 01:20:30 <bexelbie> there will always be other events and ideas, but those should consume the majority of hte effort 01:20:48 <bexelbie> If NA wants to use these 4 questions as a requirement to help event planners think about the events they suggest 01:20:49 <bexelbie> that is fine 01:21:03 <bexelbie> whatever helps NA and all the ambassadors together enjoy the greatest success 01:21:06 <bexelbie> eom 01:22:07 <award3535> mikedep333, you also need to create a wiki page for the event with these questions answered 01:22:55 <award3535> ok moving on 01:22:58 <award3535> #topic === Tickets === 01:23:14 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues 01:23:22 <mikedep333> Understood 01:23:38 <award3535> .famnaticket 181 01:23:39 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #181: FOSSCON 2017 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/181 01:24:22 * bexelbie moves to his phone as the meeting is ending on site 01:24:52 <award3535> mikedep333 no worries, I am also behind on mine as well, so once you get the page created and final budget completed, we have time 01:25:23 <award3535> also its been a steep learning curve for me and the budget process, so you are not alone 01:25:26 <mikedep333> Should I create it right now during the meeting? 01:26:07 <award3535> mikedep333, its up to you, but we need a bottom line for budget and is anyone else attending other than you? 01:26:40 <mikedep333> I reached out to linuxmodder, who was the owner for previous years. I have not heard back yet. 01:27:13 <award3535> linuxmodder has another engagement, conflict, so probably not 01:27:24 <mikedep333> Once we figure out the shipping costs and any media costs, and if I am the only one coming, then the budget can be finalized. 01:27:44 <award3535> linuxmodder has stepped away for a while 01:28:06 <kk4ewt> i really think that for events we need to have at least 2 ambassadors at an event 01:28:18 <mikedep333> Yeah, I understand. 01:28:26 <kk4ewt> and no ambassador should be one on one with anyone 01:28:29 <award3535> mikedep333, before finalize put some invites out, cydrobolt is in that area as well 01:28:37 <mikedep333> Oh, right. 01:28:42 <mikedep333> I will reach out to him. 01:28:57 <award3535> and yes there will be no single ambassador at anyevent 01:29:22 <award3535> mikedep333, where you at the meeting when we discussed this 01:30:07 <mikedep333> No 01:30:13 <mikedep333> It makes perfect sense though. 01:30:29 <juggler> <--laptop battery dying. will stay until I drop off. :( 01:31:10 <award3535> mikedep333, here is what you missed, to protect all involved there will be no one on one event. 01:31:10 <jsandys> and no ambassador should be one on one with anyone? 01:31:20 <kk4ewt> correct 01:31:37 <mikedep333> Understood 01:31:48 <award3535> there can be one ambassador and two individuals, or two ambassadors with one individual 01:31:56 <award3535> this protects all parties 01:32:02 <juggler> offhand, was there some one on one incident historically? 01:32:10 <kk4ewt> jsandys basicly if know anything about Scouting its simulair to youth protection training 01:32:57 <award3535> juggler, in a sense, but this is for everyones protection 01:33:12 <kk4ewt> it prevents issues in the long run 01:33:40 <juggler> understood 01:33:52 <award3535> moving on 01:34:03 <award3535> .famnaticket 179 01:34:04 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #179: Ohio Linux Fest Budget request - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/179 01:34:49 <award3535> The only information on this ticket is that I need to update the wiki and ticket with the questions and initiative information 01:36:07 <award3535> ok moving to open 01:36:20 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:37:14 <juggler> happy F26 all 01:37:35 <award3535> kk4ewt do you have anything to discuss? juggler roger! 01:37:51 <award3535> will be loading it on my sisters laptop this weekend 01:38:18 <jsandys> Is there someone who could give a presentation on Python Classroom at SeaGL? 01:38:29 <juggler> any positive experiences in-place upgrading F25->F26? thinking of doing so after bkp 01:39:32 <kk4ewt> juggler, i have heard of good and bad 01:40:12 <juggler> ok, make a bkp definitely, check. :) 01:40:17 <kk4ewt> my suggestion is backup dnf update disable third party repos and have a live usb ready just in case 01:40:39 <juggler> got it. 01:43:08 <award3535> anything else folks 01:43:24 <jsandys> Python Classroom speaker? 01:44:17 <award3535> I will be in Texas and Ohio, so I cannot 01:44:26 <kk4ewt> jsandys, the first person i think is possible adamw 01:44:38 <adamw> what'd I do now 01:45:18 <adamw> oh, i can't do that. i'll be in england during seagl. 01:45:23 <award3535> adamw, I am going to my sons Air Force Pilot graduation 01:45:31 <award3535> then off to Ohio 01:45:37 <award3535> for OLF 01:46:01 <award3535> adamw, I have not heard anything about TXLF 01:46:09 <jsandys> looking for a speaker on Python classroom for SeaGL in October 01:46:27 <adamw> award3535: i dunno why you keep addressing things to me, i'm not in charge of anything here - i just got pinged by kk4ewt. 01:46:31 <jsandys> adamw, you can crash at my place. 01:46:45 <adamw> that's okay, i'll be at my mum's. 01:47:05 <award3535> okay, usually you are involved in TXLF 01:47:06 <kk4ewt> adamw, i know you proable good to it off the top your head 01:47:15 <kk4ewt> could 01:47:18 <adamw> award3535: er, you may be confusing me with someone else. i've never been to texas. 01:47:23 <jsandys> adamw, do you want to submit a python classroom talk to SeaGL? 01:47:29 <kk4ewt> and you are alot closer than most of us 01:47:36 <adamw> ....i just said, i'll be in england when seagl is happening. 01:47:52 <jsandys> mom = England 01:47:52 <award3535> adamw, I think I am..... thought you were maxamillion 01:48:18 <adamw> award3535: jeez, that guy. next time i see him i'm forcing him to change his name 01:48:21 <adamw> :P 01:48:23 <kk4ewt> jsandys, put out a call on the amabassador list and the developers list 01:48:36 <jsandys> will do 01:50:00 <award3535> ok, if there is nothing else I will close the meeting 01:50:09 <jsandys> I could also use some help with flask to get the beefy connection kiosk app working with a badge scanner. 01:51:19 <jsandys> I'll try vwbusguy the original author again 01:52:00 <kk4ewt> vwbusguy may be a good person for the y python lab 01:52:23 <jsandys> OK 01:53:00 <reher-> I'm very interested in the python lab, but nowhere near ready to give a talk. 01:54:48 <jsandys> They will have some 20 minute talk slots at SeaGL 01:58:40 <award3535> Thank you all for attending, Our next meeting will not be until the 28th of July 01:58:57 <jsandys> thanks 01:59:15 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:59:29 <award3535> #endmeeting