06:33:10 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n 06:33:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Dec 6 06:33:10 2017 UTC. The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:33:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:33:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:33:10 <paragan> #meetingname i18n 06:33:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:33:11 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call 06:33:11 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-12-06 06:33:25 <suanand> hi.. 06:33:28 <epico> hi 06:33:43 <tagoh> hi 06:33:50 <bhavin192> hi 06:33:59 <mfabian> ☺ 06:34:28 <paragan> Hi all 06:34:37 <fujiwarat1> hi 06:34:46 <paragan> #chair suanand epico tagoh bhavin192 mfabian fujiwarat1 06:34:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: bhavin192 epico fujiwarat1 mfabian paragan suanand tagoh 06:35:21 <paragan> Let's start 06:35:33 <paragan> we are meeting after almost one month now. 06:36:12 <paragan> Fedora 27 has been released and we had our FAD last month 06:36:35 <paragan> both went very well ;-) 06:37:00 <paragan> now we are going for Fedora 28 development 06:37:22 <paragan> so let's check quickly the upcoming schedule milestones 06:37:42 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:37:42 <paragan> #info 2017-11-14 Fedora 27 Release 06:37:42 <paragan> #info 2018-01-09 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes) 06:37:42 <paragan> #info 2018-01-09 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild) 06:37:42 <paragan> #info 2018-01-30 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes) 06:37:43 <paragan> #info 2018-01-31 Mass Rebuild 06:38:14 <paragan> #info the current schedule is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule 06:39:42 <paragan> let's discuss about F28 in next agenda item tickets 06:40:01 <paragan> looks like this is not that short schedule so we have time to work on things we need to get in Fedora 28 06:40:35 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issue 06:40:39 <juhp> Okay, but not so long until the submission deadlines 06:41:03 <paragan> right 06:41:43 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017 06:41:44 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72 06:42:00 <paragan> well this is not now outstanding issue 06:42:43 <paragan> so we had FAD last month and it went well as per we decided 06:43:13 <paragan> we had good number of attendee's from i18n development and quality engineering side. 06:44:04 <paragan> we discussed on different topics of i18n like locales, input methods, fonts, rendering and its quality assurance 06:44:43 <paragan> few of the people have already blogged about this FAD event and rest will soon post their event reports 06:45:39 <paragan> We were happy that we got QE people with us to discuss on quality issues for i18n packages. 06:45:56 <juhp> Yes 06:46:35 <paragan> we discussed on the further development we are planning for upcoming Fedora 28 release 06:47:24 <paragan> we got few things to develop for Fedora 28 and hopefully they will get converted as Fedora 28 or Fedora 29 Changes 06:48:04 <paragan> so lets keep working on those tasks that we got as outcome of this FAD 06:50:07 <paragan> #info if anybody want to know the outcome of this FAD then we have it documented in this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-CCH2pR76MHAjzMJT1vsFsFDR7MCBkrXyGjuuK04LNE 06:50:45 <paragan> Feel free to go though it and if you got any comment please email us on Fedora i18n mailing list 06:51:33 <paragan> I think that is the update for i18n FAD 06:51:49 <paragan> I think I will close this ticket now. 06:52:28 <juhp> Thanks 06:53:12 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues 06:53:12 <paragan> #info #86: Fedora 27 release party/event during i18n FAD at Pune 06:53:51 <paragan> This is done during i18n FAD 06:54:11 <paragan> the event is owned by Pravin so I will assign the ticket to him first 06:56:34 <paragan> I updated the ticket and asked pravins to provide update on that ticket 06:57:06 <paragan> #action pravins to provide F27 release party update on this #86 ticket and then we can close this ticket. 06:57:59 <paragan> Let's move 06:58:22 <paragan> I will just re-order the tickets from agenda item to have them sequentially discussed 06:58:55 <paragan> #info #83: Tracker for Fedora 28 Changes 06:58:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/83 06:59:31 <paragan> #chair 06:59:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: bhavin192 epico fujiwarat1 mfabian paragan suanand tagoh 06:59:49 <paragan> anyone has already submitted any change for Fedora 28? 07:00:00 <paragan> or anyone is planning to do so soon? 07:02:29 <juhp> I think we have plans from the FAD 07:03:37 <paragan> yes we do have them :) 07:03:50 <mfabian> I think I should submit a change for Fedora 28 for the improvements in the glibc locals (syncing with CLDR and improving the collation of various locales). 07:04:49 <juhp> great 07:08:11 <paragan> okay so I request if someone submits a Change then add the link of that Change to this ticket 07:08:49 <paragan> let's move to next ticket 07:09:14 <smaitra> hi 07:09:28 <paragan> #chair juhp smaitra 07:09:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: bhavin192 epico fujiwarat1 juhp mfabian paragan smaitra suanand tagoh 07:09:31 <paragan> #info #85: Docs Beats for Fedora 28 07:09:31 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/85 07:10:00 <paragan> I have created this placeholder ticket so we will remember to create documentation for Fedora 28 07:10:10 <paragan> nothing more to discuss for this ticket for now 07:10:11 * pravins here now :) 07:10:56 <juhp> paragan: I think good if people could post their intentions to propose a Change even already now - then we can track 07:11:14 <juhp> paragan: thanks 07:11:27 <paragan> right 07:12:11 <paragan> #info #79: Fedora 25 Bug triaging 07:12:11 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/79 07:12:56 <paragan> I can see we still have 28 bugs 07:13:08 <paragan> check on agenda page for bug statistics 07:13:29 <paragan> good if corresponding package owners can triage their bugs 07:14:28 <paragan> I think all of them already got F25 EOL notice on 16th Nov 07:14:46 <paragan> I guess only one week should have remained for actual EOL of F25 07:17:15 <paragan> Let's move to next ticket 07:17:34 <paragan> #info #84: Fedora 26 Bug triaging 07:17:34 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/84 07:19:11 <paragan> Same thing here 07:19:38 <paragan> let's keep triaging the bugs and either fix them or move them to rawhide 07:20:22 <mfabian> paragan: Could you add a bugzilla link to https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/84 ? 07:21:23 <mfabian> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=POST&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&f1=OP&f2=assigned_to&f3=cc&f5=keywords&f6=CP&j1=OR&list_id=8190247&o2=substring&o3=substring&o5=substring&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced&v2=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&v3=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&v5=i18n&version=26 07:22:51 <paragan> mfabian, sure I will add it 07:23:54 <paragan> mfabian, done its https://da.gd/sFmG 07:25:53 <paragan> let's move to next ticket 07:26:16 <paragan> I think I missed this one ticket related to F28 07:26:17 <paragan> #info #82: Fedora 28 i18n test day 07:26:17 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/82 07:26:32 <paragan> we need to think on some date for Fedora 28 i18n test day 07:26:45 <paragan> QA people are already ready to help us with this :) 07:27:15 <paragan> I don't want we to decide today only but keep thinking on this and hopefully we can decide in next meeting? 07:28:53 <paragan> Let's move to the last ticket 07:28:59 <paragan> #info #78: package Liberation Classic Font in Fedora 07:29:00 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/78 07:29:09 <paragan> this is pending from sometime now 07:30:00 <juhp> Yeah problem is noone is currently looking after liberation fonts I think 07:30:50 <paragan> okay no problem 07:30:59 <paragan> hopefully we will get someone soon to work on this 07:32:10 <juhp> I think there is no upstream release yet? 07:33:44 <paragan> #topic Open Floor 07:33:56 <paragan> juhp, need to check 07:34:10 <paragan> anyone got any other issues to discuss in this meeting? 07:34:17 <juhp> yeah, I can't see one anyway 07:34:54 <paragan> ok 07:34:59 <juhp> Is it better to have one ticket per Change? 07:38:08 <paragan> maybe we can have 07:38:33 <paragan> maybe change owner can create a ticket also 07:40:51 <paragan> if nothing more to discuss then let's close the meeting 07:41:16 <paragan> thanks who came to this meeting 07:41:37 <paragan> #endmeeting