18:00:19 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2017-12-14) 18:00:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 14 18:00:19 2017 UTC. The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:19 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2017-12-14)' 18:00:19 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:19 <smooge> #topic aloha 18:00:19 <smooge> #chair smooge relrod nirik dgilmore threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson maxamillion 18:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore maxamillion nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:23 <smooge> hello all 18:00:25 <puiterwijk> hello 18:01:20 * pingou here 18:01:23 <cverna> hello too 18:01:24 <pingou> hello people :) 18:02:18 <smooge> linuxmodder, you were early .. so I will just paste this: linuxmodder is here for infra ~ 5 mins early albeit 18:02:36 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions 18:02:36 <smooge> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 18:03:22 <aso> Hey guys, I'm Alex. I sent my introduction email about a week ago. I'm ready for some challenges :) 18:03:50 <cverna> welcome aso 18:03:58 <smooge> Hello aso 18:04:27 <smooge> we are a bit thin on challenges at the moment with the new year break but are looking to see what we can do in the coming year. 18:05:12 <linuxmodder> .fas linuxmodder 18:05:12 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org> 18:05:41 <aso> That's not a problem, I'll be here :) 18:05:45 <smooge> cool 18:05:59 <smooge> #topic announcements and information 18:05:59 <smooge> #info PHX2 Colo Trip, Dec 4th - 9th. Trip was success. All Fedora servers were moved 18:05:59 <smooge> #info Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze begins 2017-12-21 18:05:59 <smooge> #info Many people on vacation. 18:05:59 <smooge> #info Bodhi-3.1.0 mostly deployed (backend01 still needs to be upgraded) 18:06:04 <linuxmodder> not a newbie but been absent for awhile, if anyone needs a refresh of my involvement or skills pm so as not the flood channel 18:06:47 <linuxmodder> semifreeze? care to elabore some ? 18:06:58 * dustymabe late 18:07:04 <dustymabe> .hello2 18:07:05 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com> 18:07:16 <pingou> linuxmodder: every change require a single +1 from another sysadmin-main or releng 18:08:14 <dustymabe> pingou: is that just for the holidays? 18:08:25 <pingou> yes 18:08:34 * dustymabe kinda wishes it was like that all the time. I know it would be a pain, but would help with transparency 18:08:41 <linuxmodder> for the semifreeze pingou ? 18:09:01 <pingou> linuxmodder: ? 18:09:09 <linuxmodder> vice the 3 +1 normally needed 18:09:27 <smooge> so we do a slush every large holiday break 18:10:01 <smooge> during a slush we need 1 +1 by another sysadmin-main before making the change. This is to make sure we have someone else around when a change is happening 18:10:26 <smooge> during a freeze we need a 2 +1 in the email by 2 different sysadmin-main 18:11:18 <smooge> this is to make sure that if something does break during a change/fix/etc there is at least 1 more sysadmin who can help 'rescue'/'keep you sane' while it is being fixed 18:11:35 <linuxmodder> thought it was 3 at one point but I'm foggy on all that noted 18:11:50 <smooge> It is a later topic so I may have filled it out early 18:12:35 <smooge> Currently various infrastructure people are on vacation and more will be doing so in the next week. Doing 'nirik ping' etc will probably get NO response 18:12:46 <smooge> for days if ever 18:12:53 <pingou> ^^ 18:13:25 <puiterwijk> You might get a pong from other people, but that's also not guaranteed to be in standard amounts of time 18:13:39 <smooge> pingou, anything pagure related to announce? [Other than I get to put out a new cert in a couple of hours?] 18:13:43 * bowlofeggs waves from far away 18:14:13 <pingou> 3.12.1 to land in prod shortly I suspect 18:14:18 <smooge> cool 18:14:23 <pingou> with a few bug fixed 18:14:52 <pingou> other than that, I'm working on a 4.0 and a few changes w/ it 18:15:33 <pingou> 4.0 is changing some of the internal code structure, so nothing really breaking for users (outside bugs) but potentially breakage for script relying on the internals 18:15:54 * cverna waves back a bowlofeggs using a giant foam hand so that he can see it 18:16:28 <pingou> eof 18:16:52 <bowlofeggs> cverna: :) 18:16:52 <smooge> ok next one 18:16:57 <pingou> oh, random announcement 18:17:13 <smooge> or I can wai 18:17:20 <pingou> don't forget to fill https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/vacation if you go away for a few days or more :) 18:17:31 <pingou> eof :) 18:17:56 <pingou> (dunno if this deserves an #info or not) 18:18:29 <smooge> #info People in sysadmin-* file your vacation days 18:18:32 <smooge> #topic PHX2 Move 18:18:32 <smooge> #info Lessons Learned(LL): Having a good plan does work 18:18:32 <smooge> #info LL: Make sure that the people who need to be there are there 18:18:33 <smooge> #info LL: New cages have 30 amp power. 18:18:33 <smooge> #info LL: You can put 1 Dell FX per 2 30 amp power supplies 18:18:34 <smooge> #info LL: Inventory is hard 18:19:33 <smooge> OK so last week we did a large move of the infrastructure from one side of a cage to another. This moved us from older racks, dodgey pdu's and bad wiring, to new racks, good pdu's and wiring NOT done by me 18:19:38 <pingou> #info kudos to all the folks involved 18:19:45 <cverna> ++ to everyone involved in the move 18:19:48 <dustymabe> smooge: +1 18:19:59 <pingou> smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++ 18:19:59 <zodbot> pingou: Karma for smooge changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:02 <zodbot> pingou: Karma for codeblock changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:08 <pingou> (do let me know if I'm forgetting anyone) 18:20:13 * Southern_Gentlem suggestion for inventory upc or qrcodes 18:20:24 <dustymabe> who all was there? 18:20:47 <cverna> smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++ 18:20:48 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for smooge changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:48 <pingou> Ricky and smooge were on site 18:20:51 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for codeblock changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:54 <cverna> :) 18:20:54 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for kevin changed to 15 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:56 <smooge> Matt Galgoci, Ricky Elrod, me, 4 contractors people 18:21:13 * pingou didn't know about the other 5, ++ to them as well 18:21:30 <smooge> Most of my work was to keep things moving together. Ricky had the work of getting inventory 18:22:09 <smooge> Southern_Gentlem, the hardware does have upcs on them.. but Ricky needed to do the harder work of saying where that was in a rack, what was in it, etc etc 18:22:44 <smooge> Matt Galgoci unbricked 4 aarch64 boxes for us while making sure that our switches had working network 18:23:45 <smooge> Southern_Gentlem, do you have a recommendation on opensource software which can tie the two together? 18:25:46 <smooge> ... sorry another phone call about a disk drive from Lenovo ... 18:25:51 <smooge> ok back 18:25:53 <smooge> #topic Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze 18:25:54 <smooge> #info Red Hat does a year end shutdown every year. 18:25:54 <smooge> #info Most of infrastructure is on vacation during this time 18:25:54 <smooge> #info People will be on IRC every now and then. Do no expect replies to queries 18:25:54 <smooge> #info All changes to infrastructure from 2017-12-21 -> 2018-01-02 need +1 via IRC or email 18:25:55 <smooge> #info Use email or infrastructure tickets so things are captured. 18:26:16 <smooge> linuxmodder, dustymabe does that better answer the question on freezes and such? 18:26:26 <linuxmodder> smooge, yes 18:26:39 <pingou> I'll be around next week, less so the week after that 18:27:01 <pingou> should I ask for a pre-emptive +1 on pushing pagure 3.12.1 to prod if I don't end up making it tomorrow? 18:27:06 <puiterwijk> I'll probably be around most of the time. Worst case I can be paged 18:27:14 <puiterwijk> pingou: +1 provided 18:27:19 <pingou> thanks :) 18:27:36 <pingou> I'll make sure to do it early in the week so I'm around if something falls 18:27:49 <smooge> pingou, what days will you be out next week? 18:27:58 <smooge> are they on the calendar :)? 18:27:59 <puiterwijk> That'd be appreciated. An "Update and run" is less fun for us :) 18:28:15 <pingou> smooge: the week after I won't be around 18:28:22 <pingou> next week, I'm here all the time 18:28:41 <smooge> oops time travel problem.. I was in next week 18:29:05 <smooge> ok sounds like we are good on this.. sorry for the confusion 18:30:33 <smooge> #topic Next Meeting? 18:31:07 <smooge> I will be around next week and will be able to run a meeting then. However I wanted to gauge how many people would be here on the 21st 18:31:21 <puiterwijk> I'd say we skip meetings until new year 18:31:34 <pingou> +1 18:31:42 <cverna> +1 for skipping 18:32:46 <smooge> ok next meeting would be Thursday Jan 4 18:33:09 <smooge> I will be back by then.. will others? 18:33:49 <dustymabe> i'll be back by then 18:33:57 * cverna will be back 18:34:34 <smooge> ok then 2018-01-04 18:00 UTC will be the next Fedora Infrastructure Meeting 18:34:41 <smooge> #topic Open Floor 18:34:49 * pingou will be back as well 18:35:00 <smooge> Alright do we have any items for open floor? 18:36:08 <cverna> seems not :) 18:37:23 <harindersingh> Hi people 18:37:35 <smooge> hello harindersingh 18:37:57 <harindersingh> I am new here and got idea of very few things 18:38:19 <smooge> ah cool. Are you wanting to join the apprentice group? 18:38:38 <harindersingh> Kevin has added me 18:38:50 <harindersingh> I was going through the SOPs 18:38:57 <cverna> welcome harindersingh 18:39:07 <harindersingh> thank you cverna 18:39:43 <harindersingh> Would it be fine if i can ping or email any one of you when I need some help ? 18:39:45 <pingou> welcome :) 18:39:59 <harindersingh> thank you pingou 18:40:00 <pingou> irc is likely better, and sure :) 18:40:22 <pingou> the best is to ask on a public channel so more people can benefit from the answer or help answering :) 18:40:38 <cverna> what are you interested in harindersingh more development or sysadmin tasks ? 18:40:47 <cverna> or both :) 18:41:12 <harindersingh> Ok sure :) I asked just for a sort of mentoring thing hence email 18:41:44 <harindersingh> I am interested in sysadmin tasks cverna 18:41:57 <smooge> at the moment, mentoring is our weak spot. I think it is somehting we need to work on in the coming year.. but we need to outline what we are going to mentor and what we can't 18:42:20 <smooge> I am not saying we can't do it.. just that you will probably need to work with us a bit on what is needed so we can do it 18:42:23 <smooge> brb 18:43:24 <harindersingh> Yeah I missed the apprentice workday this time. I'll attend that next time 18:44:03 <harindersingh> So I'll go through the issues and see which ones I can work on because I really have to learn working with these tools. 18:44:24 <pingou> don't hesitate to ask questions :) 18:44:40 <harindersingh> Yeah I won't 18:45:06 <harindersingh> See you around on other irc channel. 18:45:19 <linuxmodder> cverna, sysadmin here 18:46:04 <smooge> ok with that.. I think we are ready to end this meeting 18:46:22 <smooge> thank you all for coming and see you in a couple of weeks 18:46:26 <smooge> #endmeeting