13:00:08 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 13:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 17 13:00:08 2018 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 13:00:10 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 13:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 13:00:13 <stickster> #topic Roll call 13:00:20 <stickster> .hello pfrields 13:00:22 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 13:00:23 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch 13:00:24 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 13:00:28 <ryanlerch> morning stickster! 13:00:30 <stickster> zodbot seems a little slow atm 13:00:45 <stickster> maybe he has a snow day too, and we woke him up ;-) 13:01:00 <stickster> hiya ryanlerch 13:02:04 <ryanlerch> stickster: bit cold there today? 13:02:16 <stickster> ryanlerch: we have snow on the ground this morning, kids off school 13:02:44 * cverna has snow on the ground too this morning :) 13:02:48 <stickster> definitely a contender for a bad morning: you sleep poorly, and everyone else in the house gets to sleep in because no school 13:03:33 <cverna> you should play some music to wake them up :) 13:03:37 <stickster> lol 13:03:41 <stickster> #topic Last week's stas 13:03:43 <stickster> #info 13:03:46 <stickster> oh darn it 13:04:12 <ryanlerch> it was pretty horrible here today too 13:04:18 <ryanlerch> https://www.instagram.com/p/BeBzku9B8R1/ 13:05:07 <stickster> #info just over 72K pageviews last week -- excellent week! and so far, 188.5K pageviews for January 13:05:17 <cverna> ryanlerch: it looks terrible 13:05:25 <stickster> The. Worst. 13:05:28 <cverna> \o/ 13:05:35 <ryanlerch> stickster: wow! 13:05:42 <stickster> 😠 13:05:43 <ryanlerch> 188K already for january? 13:05:49 <ryanlerch> \o/ 13:05:57 <stickster> yeah, not bad considering we're only halfway through the month 13:06:06 <stickster> helped no doubt by Meltdown/Spectre articles 13:07:12 <stickster> #topic Check-in from last week 13:08:02 <stickster> So there's a reprint this morning because our planned article was determined to be not eligible for publishing. Won't harp on that here, see list for details. But since we had an update on Meltdown early in the week, that pushed things back. So hopefully Plymouth can run on Friday 13:08:36 <ryanlerch> yeah i'll get plymoth for friday for sure 13:08:59 <ryanlerch> if i run into issues finishing it off, i will def wrangle something for friday 13:09:01 <stickster> cverna: do you still think you can draft the RSS article? 13:09:33 <cverna> stickster: I have started to work on it last week end 13:09:48 <cverna> I think I can get it done by the end of this week 13:10:08 <stickster> awesome... and I think you already contacted Ashutosh & the list about the 'ps' article 13:10:54 <stickster> cverna: when you're done, ping me and I can help by editing your RSS piece 13:11:13 <cverna> yes he said he would improve it, but I did not check if he did anything yet 13:11:18 <cverna> stickster++ 13:11:18 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for pfrields changed to 12 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:11:40 <stickster> 🍪 party! 13:12:07 <stickster> OK, that covers most of the dangling tasks 13:12:14 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts 13:12:16 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending 13:13:16 <stickster> So there's a new post here from phracek. He didn't really check in about the pitch, but I talked to him briefly the other day about it. It actually does follow on a previous post on containers. It's a bit "thick" but interesting 13:13:26 <stickster> #info --- container testing --- 13:13:28 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19915&preview=1&_ppp=643a7fed92 13:15:12 <ryanlerch> yeah this one does look interesting 13:15:19 <ryanlerch> i get what you mean by think though 13:15:30 <ryanlerch> *thick 13:15:30 <stickster> I think it will make more sense once the English is tuned a bit 13:15:43 <stickster> A lot of output is shown which could be trimmed down too 13:15:45 <cverna> it will address "advanced" user 13:16:00 <ryanlerch> cverna: agreed 13:16:27 <ryanlerch> and maybe a little more of a lead-in would help a bit too 13:16:34 <stickster> cverna: +1, this is good for developers and sysadmins more than other users 13:17:08 <ryanlerch> this is a +1 form me! 13:17:29 <stickster> ryanlerch: agreed, I had asked phracek about that IIRC. if he doesn't provide something I might be able to crib it from the previous container testing article, https://fedoramagazine.org/testing-modules-containers-modularity-testing-framework/ 13:17:59 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds like a plan! 13:18:02 <stickster> ha, the MTF acronym was "repurposed," should probably explain that too 13:18:02 <cverna> yes +1 for me too 13:18:12 <stickster> #agreed pitch/draft approved 13:18:20 <stickster> #action stickster edit this article for publication next week 13:19:36 <stickster> #topic Drafts for review 13:19:39 <phracek> I am really glad, you approve it. 13:19:40 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post 13:19:54 <phracek> Feel free to ping me If you need any help;) 13:20:23 <stickster> sure, thanks phracek 13:20:48 <stickster> #info --- COPR article for January --- 13:20:52 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19945&preview=1&_ppp=d157238c80 13:21:49 * cverna likes the COPR articles 13:22:05 <stickster> This is cool! Definitely a useful installment, +1 from me 13:22:21 <cverna> +1 13:22:32 <stickster> I love having these monthly, it's like a bonus box full of useful gadgets 13:22:35 <cverna> Netdata looks cool 13:23:04 <ryanlerch> +1 13:23:11 <ryanlerch> these are always good! 13:23:26 <stickster> #agreed COPR is go, can use this next week 13:23:28 <ryanlerch> would love to have a similar one for stuff in the actual repos too! 13:24:00 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah, that would be a great thing to have -- like "3 useful packages" once a month. 13:24:36 <stickster> The package complement is a little unfairly weighted toward things like Python + Perl libraries, but there are still a *lot* of utilities out there that are useful 13:25:15 <cverna> maybe that's an idea for the list if anybody is interested by it 13:26:09 <ryanlerch> sorry to distract there! 13:27:05 <stickster> no worries, I think it's something we should pursue -- easy for beginners too 13:27:24 <stickster> ryanlerch: Can you maybe shoot that idea to list and see if you can drum up some takers? 13:27:33 <ryanlerch> stickster: for sure! 13:27:35 <stickster> #action stickster edit COPR article for next week 13:28:01 <ryanlerch> the biggest issue os avtually getting the list of pakages to write about :( 13:28:16 <ryanlerch> of the useful / interesting ones that is 13:28:50 <stickster> Yeah, might be useful to do something alphabetical... like "3 packages starting with the letter A" -- then there's only a few hundred packages to scan descriptions, and pick a few to try out 13:30:10 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 13:30:48 <stickster> #action ryanlerch message list about "useful packages" idea from standard Fedora repos 13:30:52 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to email list about newpackages post series 13:30:58 <ryanlerch> #undo 13:31:00 <stickster> oops, sorry! 13:31:19 <ryanlerch> sorry! 13:31:46 <stickster> we don't have any other new drafts since last week -- the remainders are ps, RSS DIY, plymouth, + openbox 13:31:59 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review 13:32:18 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post 13:32:31 <stickster> #info --- GPIO expander project --- 13:32:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19937&preview=1&_ppp=608eae8fa6 13:33:35 <stickster> This is a RasPi hardware DIY topic -- pretty cool and we haven't had a hardware hacking article in a while IIRC 13:33:40 <cverna> it would be nice to have some pictures :P 13:34:00 <stickster> cverna: Agreed, we can ask the writer to provide them -- they already wrote the article so it shouldn't be much more work 13:34:50 <stickster> cverna: Maybe just a picture of the RasPi showing the GPIO pins prominently 13:34:54 <ryanlerch> cverna: agreed 13:35:12 <stickster> and perhaps one showing the LED connected properly 13:35:16 <ryanlerch> anyone have a raspi zero to test this? 13:35:21 <stickster> not here 13:36:29 <cverna> nope 13:36:50 <cverna> we should ask the author to provides us with the hardware to test :) 13:36:56 <ryanlerch> :) 13:37:17 <ryanlerch> this one couls also benefit from a lead in with maybe some examples of why? 13:37:53 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah -- I think the idea is that if you can show how to use the GPIO (general purpose IO?) just to turn on a light, you could use it for all sorts of more complicated connections/purposes 13:38:32 <stickster> IOW, connect other things that rely on pin signals, and then you can control them through the GPIO 13:39:36 <stickster> What do you guys think, +/-1? 13:39:42 <cverna> +1 13:39:48 <ryanlerch> +1 13:39:57 <stickster> +1 here too 13:40:29 <stickster> #agreed GPIO pitch approved, contingent on adding a couple photos and a little more explanation at intro 13:40:56 <stickster> #action stickster email author/list about approval and ask for upgrades 13:41:51 <stickster> I already emailed the cinnamon author per last week's meeting, so moving forward... 13:43:09 <stickster> Looks like no other new updates here either 13:43:35 <stickster> I think we should either trash or return to "Starter Pitches" any of these that haven't been worked on since before December 13:44:12 <cverna> "Starter Pitches" maybe rather than trash 13:44:12 * stickster tries not to fall asleep on keyboard 13:45:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: or the holding pen? 13:45:36 <stickster> ryanlerch: perhaps, although the HP is more like a quasi-trash since I don't know how many folks look through it regularly 13:46:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: okie-dokw -- SP it is! 13:46:10 * stickster is OK with whatever -- but would like to clear this queue so we don't stare at the same out-of-date stuff all the time 13:47:06 <stickster> a couple of these pitches were not approved, and never updated as asked, so putting them in SP makes it seem like they're pre-approved 13:47:47 <stickster> the github/md article and the Windows apps article are like that... I think the former was never updated, and the latter was a bunch of screenshots with no text 13:48:02 <stickster> I think the Windows apps article is actually a good SP idea, though 13:48:08 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia 13:48:09 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com> 13:48:31 <stickster> o/ hola Ben 13:48:42 <Southern_Gentlem> brrrr morning 13:49:06 <stickster> x3mboy[m]: you still have that Jed article waiting -- any desire to finish that? 13:49:54 <cverna> Southern_Gentlem: o/ 13:50:27 <stickster> pingou: I put in https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18271&preview=1&_ppp=187df98a56 as a placeholder. Can you write that for public/contributor consumption? 13:51:28 <pingou> stickster: sounds like a good idea, Dominik may be able to help there as well 13:51:33 <Southern_Gentlem> idea for an article this is hard to explain but years ago Fedora went to SXSW and there were brochures made for like photo editing music and such i think spotlighting tools to do things would be great as well (goes with the 3 programs thing about) 13:51:41 <stickster> pingou: agreed -- co-authoring it would be absolutely cool 13:51:59 <stickster> #action pingou work with dperpeet to draft 'Contributing CI' article 13:52:35 <stickster> OK -- let's consider schedule for the upcoming week 13:52:43 <stickster> #topic Publishing next week 13:53:04 <stickster> Southern_Gentlem: sorry, I need more coffee, just read your idea 13:53:29 <stickster> Southern_Gentlem: Yes, agreed! I think that making a *topical* "cool utilities" article is a great concept 13:54:32 <ryanlerch> yeah, that does sound good! 13:54:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: important note... with devconf coming up some of us will be out of pocket next week. I'm going to try to get my editing done this week in advance so we can just have them autopush next week 13:54:49 <Southern_Gentlem> example https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/3/35/Graphicdesign-inner.pdf 13:54:50 <ryanlerch> i think ican dig up those brocers 13:55:12 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds like a plan 13:55:18 <Southern_Gentlem> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/SXSW_Materials 13:56:30 <Southern_Gentlem> ryanlerch, ^^ 13:57:10 <ryanlerch> Southern_Gentlem: oh, no need for me to dig them up 13:57:14 <ryanlerch> thanks Southern_Gentlem 13:58:51 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri Jan 19: Plymouth (ryanlerch) ; Mon Jan 22: container testing (stickster) ; Wed Jan 24: COPR (stickster) ; Fri Jan 26: RSS (edit: stickster/image: ryanlerch) ; Mon Jan 29: GPIO (edit/image: ryanlerch) ; Wed Jan 31: Contributing CI tests *or* alternate (TBD) 13:59:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: does that seem OK? cverna: can you have your RSS article done this week so I could edit before travel? 13:59:42 <cverna> it looks good to me 13:59:44 <ryanlerch> schedule++ 14:00:08 <stickster> So next week the Magazine meeting will be in my afternoon time while in Brno, shouldn't be a problem to run the meeting I think 14:00:16 <mattdm> (council meeting now...) 14:00:20 <stickster> thanks for coming everyone! 14:00:27 * stickster rips cord 14:00:28 <stickster> #endmeeting