11:30:55 <pjp> #startmeeting APAC Ambassador's bi-weekly meeting 08 Feb 2018
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11:31:03 <pjp> #meetingname apac
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11:31:09 <pjp> #topic Roll Call
11:31:14 <pjp> .hello
11:31:14 <zodbot> pjp: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:31:18 <skamath> .hellomynameis skamath
11:31:19 <zodbot> skamath: skamath 'Sachin S Kamath ' <sskamath96@gmail.com>
11:31:21 <siddharthvipul1> .hello
11:31:22 <zodbot> siddharthvipul1: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:31:26 <pjp> .hello pjp
11:31:28 <zodbot> pjp: pjp 'None' <pj.pandit@yahoo.co.in>
11:31:32 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, Use .hello2 or .hello <fas>
11:31:46 <siddharthvipul1> .hello siddharthvipul1
11:31:47 <zodbot> siddharthvipul1: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
11:31:58 <siddharthvipul1> skamath, thanks :)
11:32:02 <skamath> ;)
11:32:24 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, hello2 automatically takes your irc nick as the argument.
11:32:45 <skamath> if your irc nick == fas nick, it's helpful
11:32:50 <siddharthvipul1> haha.. thanks again :)
11:33:01 <siddharthvipul1> skamath++
11:33:01 <zodbot> siddharthvipul1: Karma for skamath changed to 11 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
11:33:14 * skamath noms
11:35:25 <siddharthvipul1> Install Fest was good. We installed Fedora in around 30 laptops.. 16 already had Fedora
11:35:33 <skamath> \o/
11:35:49 <skamath> How did Sayan end up there? :D
11:35:58 <skamath> He was in Bangalore?
11:35:58 <siddharthvipul1> Sadly, 5 didn't switch from Ubuntu/Windows (for windows, gaming was the reason)
11:36:12 <pjp> So, we start with tickets ?
11:36:13 <siddharthvipul1> skamath, yes.. I asked if he could make it and he did :)
11:36:17 <skamath> Nice.
11:36:24 <skamath> pjp, We can do that.
11:36:28 <pjp> There are few budget requests I think we can process faster
11:36:44 <skamath> pjp, Everything needs to be processed before Feb 15th I think
11:36:48 <skamath> I saw a mail from bex.
11:37:00 <pjp> Yes
11:37:05 <skamath> I am not sure if izhar saw it.
11:37:08 <pravins> hi
11:37:13 <pravins> .hello
11:37:13 <zodbot> pravins: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:37:17 <skamath> Hi pravins o/
11:37:21 <pjp> 1) ticket Translation Sprint Phnom -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/284
11:37:34 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/284
11:37:36 * bexelbie is lurking
11:39:37 <pravins> glad to see this event happened.
11:39:45 <skamath> Looks good to me.
11:39:46 <pravins> Phnome sprint.
11:39:46 <skamath> +1
11:40:06 <pjp> Yes, +1
11:40:17 <pjp> Let's please add votes to the ticket, so that it's visible to all later
11:40:21 <skamath> I wonder why there wasn't a budget approval vote earlier.
11:41:03 <pravins> it has written on ticket budget pre-approved.
11:41:32 <skamath> Ah okay.
11:41:32 <pravins> http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=4985
11:41:36 <skamath> I missed that comment.
11:41:39 <pravins> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/284#comment-481700
11:42:45 <pjp> The available budget number -> https://budget.fedoraproject.org/budget/FY18/overall.html
11:42:47 <pjp> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org/budget/FY18/overall.html
11:43:17 <pravins> voting done.
11:43:42 <pjp> Okay,
11:43:52 <ompragash> Hello all :)
11:43:54 <pjp> 2) Install Fest Jaypee University https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/287
11:44:08 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/287
11:44:12 <pjp> Did this event happen ?
11:44:14 <pravins> hi ompragash.
11:44:41 <Amita> can we send the asked Swags to the event owner
11:44:46 <Amita> withshubh
11:44:58 <Amita> DVDs(50+), stickers(100+)
11:45:13 <Amita> for  T-shirts, numbers are not mentioned
11:45:41 <Amita> 2018-01-27 - phew
11:45:46 <Amita> it is old ticket
11:46:05 <pjp> Amita: No DVDs and T-shirts, we can send stickers if there is a workshop this month
11:46:26 <Amita> It says - 27th January 2018
11:46:32 <pjp> It does not have actual budget request
11:46:52 <pjp> Amita: Yes, he also has a workshop planned this month, he says in description
11:47:08 <skamath> I have a Fedora hex bundle with me.
11:47:17 <Amita> "Another reason for organizing this installFest is that I am planning to organize a hands-on workshop on Linux(Covering various topics) which will be most probably in the month of Feb."
11:47:19 <Amita> cool
11:47:23 <skamath> Not sure how many stickers it has though.
11:47:29 <Amita> let's ask him what has been done
11:47:31 <Amita> and what is planned
11:47:51 <pjp> Yep, updated ticket.
11:47:58 <Amita> and share some report for what has happened in Jan (maybe)
11:48:04 <Amita> pjp, yeah thanks
11:48:09 <Amita> pjp++
11:48:20 <skamath> .fasinfo withshubh
11:48:21 <zodbot> skamath: User: withshubh, Name: Shubhendra Singh Chauhan, email: withshubh@gmail.com, Creation: 2017-11-11, IRC Nick: withshubh, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
11:48:24 <zodbot> skamath: Unapproved Groups: commops
11:48:27 <zodbot> skamath: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
11:48:45 <pjp> Okay, since there is no budget request in that, let's move to a next one
11:48:47 <skamath> Oh, him. He was active on Telegram a few weeks back.
11:49:04 <pjp> 3) Fedora Install Fest & Dev-Sprint -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/288
11:49:08 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/288
11:49:15 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: ^^
11:49:29 <skamath> This one is over :(
11:49:37 <siddharthvipul1> It happened.. total participant: 55
11:49:44 <skamath> siddharthvipul1++
11:49:51 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: I see,
11:49:51 <siddharthvipul1> 30 installation and 15 already had Fedora
11:49:54 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, Did you have swag though?
11:50:00 <siddharthvipul1> no
11:50:24 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: Did you have to spend for anything snacks/logistics?
11:50:30 <siddharthvipul1> I promised few of them to give it later :)
11:50:42 <siddharthvipul1> pjp, no.. It was managed by the University
11:50:50 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: No T-shirts, but we can send stickers and maybe pins
11:50:56 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: OKay, cool!
11:51:02 <siddharthvipul1> pjp, that would do :)
11:51:16 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, I have a few pins and stickers with me. I can hand over some to you when you come for the Coimbatore event.
11:51:23 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: Cool, please add an event report to the ticket, and close it.
11:51:34 <pjp> skamath++
11:51:34 <zodbot> pjp: Karma for skamath changed to 12 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
11:51:39 <siddharthvipul1> pjp, yeah.. will ad the report asap
11:52:01 <pjp> Okay, since no budget requirement there, let's move to the next one
11:52:06 <siddharthvipul1> sure :)
11:52:16 <pjp> 4) Funding Request for Tenzin Chokden to Nullcon 2018  -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/289
11:52:20 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/289
11:52:53 <skamath> I am a bit skeptical about this ticket. His last activity before this was request for Nullcon 2017.
11:53:34 <pjp> Yeah, but I think we can okay this, @jsimon does work with them and uses Fedora in their set-up
11:53:34 <skamath> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/datagrepper/raw?user=tenchokden
11:53:44 <skamath> Oh okay.
11:53:54 <skamath> I don't know him and have not seen him around.
11:53:56 <pjp> I've met him ones,
11:55:06 <skamath> Is he contributing to the project?
11:55:14 <pjp> He'll have to share an event report and how it benefits Fedora,
11:55:15 <sankarshan> would be good to get Joerg to validate this
11:55:23 <Amita> +1
11:55:31 <skamath> I second sankarshan
11:55:34 <pjp> skamath: Not sure how he contributes
11:56:01 <skamath> pjp, looking at datagrepper, he was last active almost 9 months ago and that was for his request for Nullcon 2017.
11:56:16 <skamath> And I think we are also re-evaluating our presence at Nullcon.
11:56:28 <Amita> I would also ask why there are "No T-shirts" - may be after the tickets , as we have some funds, we may want to print them for active participants
11:56:59 <Amita> our presence at Nullcon - pjp also attended it
11:57:07 <Amita> pjp, may want to share some of his views
11:57:08 <pjp> Amita: Sure, maybe we can print some for upcoming DevConf.in
11:57:22 <pravins> Amita: yeah, it will be nice. Ambassador T-shirt we got already 3-4 year old :)
11:57:46 <pjp> Amita: That's where I met Tenzin ones, he did a presentation about their work,
11:58:16 <Amita> and I don't have Ambassador T-shirt :)
11:58:20 <siddharthvipul1> there is an ambassador's t-shirt??
11:58:27 <siddharthvipul1> haha.. on time
11:58:34 <siddharthvipul1> same here :p
11:58:36 <skamath> Can we please stick to #289 for now? :)
11:58:40 <pravins> Amita: you are new one.
11:58:46 <skamath> Please move t-shirt talk to Open floor.
11:58:47 <pravins> skamath: good point.
11:59:16 <Amita> pjp, so his work presentation include Fedora too?
11:59:41 <skamath> It's a +0 from me until someone can validate his contribution/involvement with the project.
11:59:42 <pjp> Okay, I'll ping @jsimon about it, but considering we've budget available, I think we can +1 it,
12:00:15 <Amita> pjp, I think some validation about his work will make more sense for +1
12:00:22 <pjp> Amita: Yes, they use Fedora in their set-up, his work is not directly managing systems, but more of educating people or something similar
12:00:30 <Amita> we can't just do +1 just because we have funds
12:00:32 <siddharthvipul1> after validation it makes sense :)
12:00:55 <pravins> his booth approved for NullCon?
12:00:59 <siddharthvipul1> +1 after validation.. as of now +0 from my naive experience
12:01:08 <pjp> pravins: Fedora booth?
12:01:24 <pjp> I don't think there is one.
12:01:27 <pravins> In ticket #289 "Attending Nullcon 2018 would enable me to address the issue of Fedora user base in Linux through setting up a booth and encouraging youths for package managers. "
12:01:47 <skamath> Good catch ^
12:01:55 <skamath> sumantrom[m], Do you know about this?
12:02:13 * paragan remember Tenzin presented his work in FUDCon'15 Pune
12:02:21 <pjp> Yes
12:02:37 <pravins> also, is he going to talk on Fedora, i.e. if his talk is selected.
12:02:48 <Amita> let's ask these questions to him in ticket
12:02:57 <skamath> pravins, the speaker list is already out.
12:03:00 <Amita> and then come back again later
12:03:33 <pravins> yeah, and good if he can attend Ambassador meeting as well.
12:04:03 <pjp> Okay, just pinged him on the ticket.
12:04:17 <pjp> Will check with jsimon as well latter,
12:04:20 <skamath> #link https://nullcon.net/website/goa-2018/about-speakers.php
12:04:34 <pjp> Move to next one ?
12:04:57 <skamath> I don't see his name in speakers as well.
12:05:13 <pravins> same here.
12:05:33 <skamath> I think we can revisit this once we have more info.
12:05:40 <pjp> Yep
12:05:43 <pjp> Okay, next one
12:06:03 <pjp> 5) Funding Request for Fedora Pune Meetup -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/290
12:06:06 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/290
12:06:32 <pravins> thanks pjp
12:06:40 <pjp> pravins: For six months ?
12:07:01 <pravins> ompragash, me and paragan planning to start Fedora Pune meetup again. Its almost one and half year before last meetup.
12:07:18 <pjp> pravins: funds for creating account ?
12:07:26 * skamath always thought meetup was free
12:07:56 <siddharthvipul1> to create an account you need to pay some (I guess per month/year etc)
12:08:12 * pravins was also not aware about it.
12:08:18 * paragan too
12:08:22 <Amita> I think we avoided it always because it is not opensource
12:08:44 <siddharthvipul1> yeah.. but it has very large reach though
12:08:45 <Amita> we have always followed other means to spread a word about Fedora events
12:08:51 <sankarshan> the linked wiki page has the agenda for March. However, it doesn't seem to factor in the need to move from introdiction to coaching. That might not result in the outcomes desired by the organizers
12:08:59 <skamath> pravins, Is this for general folks or Fedora contributors?
12:09:32 <Amita> also who is the target audience here
12:09:51 <Amita> if we want to reach to the college students, we have their mail IDs and that works
12:09:54 <siddharthvipul1> i was thinking of creating a fedora meetup group.. but because of subscription fee, i didn't.
12:10:02 <pjp> I'm not clear how meetup.com helps here.
12:10:17 <Amita> pjp, we can ask :)
12:10:25 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
12:10:26 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
12:10:32 <Amita> .hello amsharma
12:10:32 <skamath> sayan, o/
12:10:33 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com>
12:10:36 <Amita> :P
12:10:38 <siddharthvipul1> hey sayan :D
12:10:45 <sayan> skamath: siddharthvipul1: hey
12:10:47 <Amita> anyways..
12:10:47 <pravins> let me answer individual questions :)
12:10:50 <pjp> pravins: ompragash ^^
12:11:06 <pravins> yeah, meetup.com is optional as of now. That is why i thought we will discuss it in this meeting.
12:11:41 <Amita> pravins, it is good if we can avoid it and better invest in something better , I feel
12:11:51 <Amita> but if it is the need
12:12:07 <Amita> to reachout to greater audience (which I don't know who)
12:12:10 <pravins> sankarshan: feel free to suggest another agenda. :)
12:12:35 <sankarshan> pravins, i would. but in this case, i am not an organizer. i believe you are with others.
12:12:37 <Amita> then we can spend this much atleast to have people for the event
12:12:46 <sankarshan> the meeting equivalent of "file a bug" doesn't work here
12:12:50 <pravins> But to be frank this is first meetup after a long time and we are not sure for attendees.
12:13:37 <pjp> Let's not discuss agenda here, but focus on ticket budget
12:13:58 <sankarshan> you'd approve budget based on the content of the ticket?
12:14:07 <sankarshan> that's what we just did on the nullcon ticket, if i recall
12:14:17 <sankarshan> the content and the OP was not familiar to the group
12:14:22 <pravins> +1 pjp As far as i think - making it happen more important.
12:15:19 <pravins> as i said earlier meetup.com budget is optional. As Amita mentioned we can avoid meetup.com.
12:16:07 <pravins> and this is not only specific to this Pune meetup but we need to decide this from other location meetup as well.
12:16:08 <pjp> sankarshan: Well, current agenda to start a meetup looks okay IMO, ie. no harm in having an event. But don't think meetup.com signup is required.
12:16:35 <pravins> Are we going to have meetup.com account for say "Banglore Meetup"  say.. Delhi Meetup?
12:16:51 <sankarshan> that is for the first month - is the ticket not talking about a sustained 6 months requirement?
12:16:53 <pjp> There aren't delhi meetups
12:17:12 <pravins> pjp: just example :)
12:17:14 <pjp> sankarshan: That must be for meetup.com signup
12:17:23 <pjp> pravins: Okay,
12:17:32 <sankarshan> either way, mar is near us. so might be required to decide whether or, not to use meetup.com
12:17:50 <pravins> sankarshan: +1 yeah, lets decide on this.
12:18:13 <pjp> I think we are digressing, for now let's not go with meetup.com, let's have the first meetup without it, gauge the interest and we can go with it if required in future
12:18:31 * paragan nods
12:18:36 <pjp> Cool!
12:19:09 <pjp> paragan: pravins If there are budget requirements other than meetup.com, please add those to the ticket maybe.
12:19:27 <pravins> no, we do not have any other budget requirement.
12:19:33 <pjp> Okay
12:19:35 <pravins> i think, we can close that ticket :)
12:19:40 <pjp> Okay.
12:19:57 <pjp> 10 mins to go...
12:20:07 <pjp> #open floor
12:20:24 <siddharthvipul1> I have been waiting for this
12:20:30 <pjp> :)
12:20:44 <pravins> :)
12:20:50 <siddharthvipul1> need one help Who is moderator for ambassadors mailing list? I was getting some problem in replying and thus thought it was a good idea to resubscribe. It's in pending review stage.
12:21:03 <siddharthvipul1> have no idea whom to contact
12:21:07 <skamath> pjp, You missed #topic
12:21:11 <skamath> We are still in roll call.
12:21:15 <pjp> skamath: Oh,
12:21:20 <pjp> #topic Open Floor
12:21:32 <pjp> skamath: Thanks.
12:21:37 <skamath> Np :)
12:22:24 <siddharthvipul1> yeah.. so! need guidance from senior ambassadors
12:22:28 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, sankarshan can look into it.
12:22:36 <sankarshan> ehh?
12:22:39 <skamath> No?
12:22:43 <paragan> siddharthvipul1, you can also create ticket to fedora-infra and ask help there
12:22:46 <sankarshan> i am not that list's modrator
12:22:58 <skamath> Oh, I thought you were the one who added me to that list.
12:23:15 <pravins> paragan: +1 siddharthvipul1 yeah creating ticket will be helpful.
12:23:25 <skamath> siddharthvipul1, Try with your fp.o email
12:23:56 <siddharthvipul1> pravins, paragan, skamath okay :)
12:24:05 <paragan> siddharthvipul1, for any list's owner use <LIST-NAME>-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org email id
12:24:26 <pjp> siddharthvipul1: To contact the list owners, use the following email address: ambassadors-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org
12:24:29 <siddharthvipul1> skamath, I tried with fp.o, but couldn't reply directly from email client
12:24:53 <siddharthvipul1> thanks everyone.. I got the links. :)
12:25:07 <pjp> :)
12:25:14 <pjp> 5 mins to go...
12:25:15 <skamath> Oh btw
12:25:19 <skamath> I have the Fedorator with me.
12:25:27 <Amita> oh WOW
12:25:31 <Amita> nice
12:25:46 <skamath> If anyone needs it at any event, invite me :P
12:25:49 <Amita> t-shirts printing
12:26:06 <Amita> and ambassador t-shirt for new ones
12:26:10 <Amita> pjp ^^
12:26:37 <siddharthvipul1> Amita, I would also like one :p
12:26:45 <pjp> Amita: siddharthvipul1 Okay,
12:27:07 <Amita> pjp, do you have or we need to print them?
12:27:38 <pjp> Amita: We'll need to print,
12:28:38 <Amita> pjp, so need to open a ticket?
12:28:59 <pjp> Amita: Yes please
12:29:06 <Amita> ok
12:29:13 <pravins> Amita: yeah please open ticket.
12:29:17 <pravins> We can discuss in next meeting
12:29:31 <pravins> thanks for meeting.
12:29:53 <pjp> Okay, going to conclude meeting here, let's have further discussions on the lists.
12:30:05 <siddharthvipul1> yeah..thanks everyone
12:30:11 <pjp> #endmeeting