18:00:18 <relrod> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2018-03-08)
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18:00:19 <relrod> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:19 <relrod> #topic aloha
18:00:19 <relrod> #chair smooge relrod nirik pingou puiterwijk tflink
18:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink
18:00:28 <relrod> Good afternoon/morning, all!
18:00:34 <marc84> hi
18:00:36 <puiterwijk> .hello2
18:00:37 <zodbot> puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' <puiterwijk@redhat.com>
18:00:45 <tflink> .hello2
18:00:46 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
18:02:00 <relrod> #topic New folks introductions
18:02:01 <relrod> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
18:02:16 <relrod> Do we have any newcomers who would like to introduce themselves and say hello?
18:03:01 <nirik> morning
18:03:21 <cverna> hi o/
18:04:53 <relrod> okay moving on
18:04:56 <relrod> #topic announcements and information
18:04:56 <relrod> #info Infrastructure hackfest in april: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Hackathon_2018
18:04:57 <relrod> #info We are in F28 Beta Freeze! All changes to frozen hosts must get +2 on list before being applied - kevin
18:05:18 <bowlofeggs> .hello2
18:05:19 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <rbarlow@redhat.com>
18:05:37 <puiterwijk> #info Bodhi upgraded to 3.5.0 and we are now able to push f28, f28m will be tested later today - patrick/randy
18:05:54 <relrod> Does anyone have any more announcements they'd like to put forth?
18:06:47 <relrod> Or any other bits of pertinent information
18:06:59 <relrod> puiterwijk: how's new cloud stuff coming along?
18:07:12 <puiterwijk> relrod: slower than hoped due to all kinds of other distractions
18:07:15 <puiterwijk> But it's coming
18:07:52 * relrod nods
18:09:17 * nirik is looking forward to it.
18:09:38 <relrod> Okay will move on to apprentice office in a minute if there's no other information to be passed.
18:09:42 <nirik> I was wondering if we would have enough folks here today to talk about non-human accounts/access...
18:10:14 <bowlofeggs> nirik: or, enough bots here today...?
18:10:22 <bowlofeggs> we should find out what the bots think too...
18:10:27 <nirik> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6061 and https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6059 and others
18:10:59 <puiterwijk> nirik: note that the former (freshmaker) doesn't need an account. They just need an OIDC token
18:11:02 <nirik> bowlofeggs: absolutely
18:11:26 <nirik> puiterwijk: yeah, thats what I am wondering... where do we actually need fas accounts for bots and where can we just give a token to whatever.
18:13:17 <nirik> but I guess it's somewhat case by case... but our SOP is likely very out of date
18:13:39 <cverna> the fas account should be the last choice I guess
18:13:40 <puiterwijk> Right. I think that there's not really a standard for that stuff right now, and the SOP needs rewriting
18:13:43 <puiterwijk> and/or nuking
18:13:49 * puiterwijk votes to nuke it until rewritten
18:14:06 <relrod> +1
18:14:20 <relrod> if it's out of date, it'll just just serve to confuse people
18:14:39 <cverna> +1 for the nuke
18:14:55 <nirik> sure.
18:15:03 <marc84> +1
18:16:35 <nirik> ok. I can try and update tickets with more info and we can nuke the SOP until someone re-writes it? but it would be good to have one
18:17:15 * relrod isn't familiar enough with the token creation process that he'd feel comfortable writing it. :(
18:17:40 <puiterwijk> relrod: nobody is yet.
18:17:51 <puiterwijk> I need to write a small playbook or something for that
18:18:00 <nirik> we could perhaps work on this in the hackfest.
18:18:11 * relrod nods
18:20:39 <relrod> okay, shall we move on to apprentice office hours?
18:20:44 <nirik> sure
18:20:52 <relrod> #topic Apprentice Open office minutes
18:20:53 <relrod> #info A time where apprentices may ask for help or look at problems.
18:21:16 <relrod> Any apprentices want to check in, ask questions, talk about cool things they've been hacking on?
18:23:01 <nirik> I wonder if we should look at doing another apprentice work day. The last one was a bust, but perhaps a weekend one would be better...
18:26:28 <relrod> I can try to help with it if we do that
18:26:53 <nirik> perhaps start a thread on list and we can see if there's interest and figure out a time.
18:27:35 <relrod> nirik: you're going to? or want met o?
18:27:38 <relrod> me to*
18:27:51 <nirik> either way. If you want to thats fine with me. :)
18:27:56 <relrod> okay
18:28:10 <relrod> #topic Open floor
18:28:21 <relrod> Anyone have anything else? :)
18:29:01 <relrod> Will wait until bottom of the hour and close out if nothing
18:29:19 <nirik> thanks for running the meeting relrod
18:30:06 <relrod> Thanks for coming, all
18:30:11 <relrod> #endmeeting