05:30:45 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
05:30:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue May 15 05:30:45 2018 UTC.
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05:30:45 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:30:46 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:47 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2018-05-15
05:30:50 <suanand> hi ..
05:30:59 <mfabian> ☺
05:31:03 <fujiwarat> hi
05:31:14 <pyadav> hi
05:31:24 <tagoh_> hi
05:31:40 <paragan> #chair suanand mfabian fujiwarat pyadav tagoh_ pravins
05:31:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat mfabian paragan pravins pyadav suanand tagoh_
05:31:41 <epico> hi
05:32:14 <paragan> Hi all
05:32:51 <paragan> let's start our meeting with first topic on agenda as upcoming schedule
05:33:02 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:33:02 <paragan> #info 2018-05-01 	Fedora 28 Release
05:33:03 <paragan> #info 2018-06-19 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
05:33:03 <paragan> #info 2018-07-03 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
05:33:15 <paragan> This month we saw Fedora 28 got released
05:33:47 <paragan> It was really a nice release cycle that finished on time first time :)
05:34:25 <paragan> I would like to thanks all of our members including devel and QE people for your work on last Fedora 28 release
05:34:57 <paragan> Now we will work on Fedora 29 development
05:35:55 <paragan> It looks there is a good amount of time for the first milestone of Fedora 29
05:36:36 <paragan> those who got new development in their work/package, may want to submit the new Changes for Fedora 29
05:37:17 <paragan> I will file tickets for Fedora 29 which we will start discussing from next meeting
05:39:09 <paragan> Anyone want to discuss or share any feedback for Fedora 28 release?
05:40:48 <paragan> if nothing to share here then lets move to next agenda topic
05:40:56 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
05:40:56 <paragan> #info #78: package Liberation Classic Font in Fedora (pnemade)
05:40:56 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/78
05:41:33 <paragan> anyone want to package liberation-narrow-fonts in rawhide?
05:42:25 <paragan> I think we need to find someone who can package it and then close this ticket.
05:43:23 <paragan> #info we need someone to package liberation-narrow-fonts because liberation-fonts-2.x release does not contain that narrow variant.
05:44:40 <paragan> next ticket
05:44:50 <paragan> #info #84: Fedora 26 Bug triaging (pnemade)
05:44:50 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/84
05:45:01 <paragan> this has worked well
05:45:17 <paragan> we just need remaining bugs triaging also
05:45:29 <paragan> before F26 becomes EOL
05:45:44 <paragan> I will also report new ticket for F27 bug triaging
05:46:26 <paragan> we got a good number of bugs reported against Fedora 27, the current count is 63
05:46:49 <paragan> #info file a ticket for Fedora 27 bug triaging
05:47:05 <paragan> next ticket
05:49:08 <paragan> #info #85: Docs Beats for Fedora 28 (pnemade)
05:49:09 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/85
05:51:53 <paragan> I just closed this as the doc beats looks good for us and they are published already.
05:52:06 <paragan> nothing more to discuss here
05:52:11 <paragan> next ticket
05:52:26 <paragan> #info #97: Replace comps language support groups with weak dependencies (petersen)
05:52:26 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/97
05:53:12 <paragan> juhp, you want to add some information here about this ticket?
05:53:33 <juhp> oops
05:53:52 <juhp> Well the subject says most of it....
05:54:34 <juhp> The idea to get rid of (all?) the language support groups in comps, replacing with Weak deps
05:54:41 <paragan> right but how the implementation will be done?
05:54:45 <juhp> I guess the main question is who will do it? :)
05:55:00 <juhp> paragan: that needs thought too
05:55:43 <juhp> true need to consider feasibility
05:55:59 <juhp> Anyone see any concerns?
05:56:14 <juhp> Do people use the groups still much?
05:57:08 <paragan> not sure if people use groups
05:57:12 <juhp> Basically my thinking was the langpacks-XX would cause certain fonts, input method, and possibly other tools to get pulled in
05:57:50 <juhp> So it would mean having to update those packages' spec files
05:57:52 <paragan> we can do that, its possible
05:58:01 <paragan> right
06:00:15 <juhp> First of all all optional packages could be forgotten or use Enhances
06:00:28 <juhp> First all of the *
06:00:48 <juhp> Not how much work it is
06:00:52 <juhp> Not sure how *
06:01:41 <juhp> This would allow Supplement'ing addition useful fonts for the user's locale
06:01:43 <juhp> etc
06:02:44 <juhp> In theory we might even be able to reduce the number of fonts and input methods we install by default or at least be able to support more languages without manual setup needed
06:04:15 <juhp> ...
06:04:27 <juhp> if nothing more let's move one :) ;)
06:04:30 <juhp> on
06:05:08 <juhp> Unless we want to discuss use-cases more...
06:05:12 <paragan> okay
06:05:51 <pravins> hi all
06:05:52 <paragan> we will keep discussing on this to find some solution
06:06:04 <paragan> next ticket
06:06:21 <paragan> #info #98: Hackathon during flock 2018 (pravins)
06:06:22 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/98
06:06:48 <pravins> i am the owner of ticket :)
06:06:59 <paragan> keep adding any topics there
06:07:30 <pravins> paragan: yeah, without having any agenda,we will not able to proceed ahead.
06:07:44 <pravins> can everyone add some active topics for hackathon?
06:08:47 <pravins> flock is in August, not that far. We should complete planning by Mid June
06:09:04 <paragan> sure
06:10:09 <paragan> Lets move
06:10:21 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:10:46 <paragan> anyone got any topic to discuss here?
06:11:59 <paragan> if nothing then I will close the meeting in next 2 minutes
06:12:04 <paragan> thanks all who came to this meeting
06:14:03 <paragan> #endmeeting