15:00:25 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting
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15:00:27 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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15:00:29 <adamw> #topic Roll call
15:00:33 <tflink> .hello2
15:00:34 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
15:00:47 <adamw> morning folks, who's around for qa meeting fun times?
15:01:31 * kparal is here, but needs to leave in 40 minutes
15:01:46 * coremodule is here!
15:01:49 * lruzicka is here
15:03:24 * pschindl_wfh is here
15:03:33 <adamw> ahoy
15:03:49 * Southern_Gentlem here
15:03:58 <adamw> awesome, good to see you all
15:04:19 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:04:49 <adamw> "adamw and kparal to fill out common bugs and update header to release status" - i'd say we got that done, right kparal?
15:05:37 <kparal> yes
15:06:04 * orc_fedo is here
15:06:12 <adamw> #info "adamw and kparal to fill out common bugs and update header to release status" - this is done, common bugs page is in decent shape
15:06:27 <adamw> "sumantro to send out Test Day retrospective for F28 cycle"
15:06:29 <adamw> sumantrom[m]: around?
15:08:01 <adamw> welp, i guess he isn't
15:08:26 <adamw> #info "sumantro to send out Test Day retrospective for F28 cycle" - this was done, see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/IH5HCYUF4VWC7MHK3WQRHZAM7TTKQBB7/
15:08:31 <adamw> any other follow-up?
15:08:51 <coremodule> was that the last action item from the last meeting?
15:09:50 <adamw> yup
15:10:07 <adamw> i cover all the action items, the question is just in case there was something to follow up on that wasn't formally mentioned as an action item and isn't on this week's agenda
15:10:17 <adamw> #topic Fedora 29 status
15:10:57 <coremodule> gotcha, the HoF post have been completed for several weeks now, the first one was published formally today, and the second is scheduled for tomorrow
15:10:58 <coremodule> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-fedora-hof-f28-beta/
15:11:06 <coremodule> *posts
15:11:06 <adamw> coremodule: awesome, thanks a lot
15:11:20 <adamw> if folks can help spread those around by posting links to them or whatever, please do
15:11:24 <coremodule> no problem!
15:11:37 <Southern_Gentlem> hof 28?
15:11:43 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: heroes of fedora
15:11:47 <Southern_Gentlem> ok
15:12:00 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: stats-based posts thanking the folks who did lots of validation tests, filed lots of bugs or lots of update karma
15:12:21 <adamw> so, f29 is rolling along actually quite well at the moment (shockingly enough)
15:12:38 <Southern_Gentlem> no i read it wrong i saw beta and thought 29
15:12:48 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: ah i see
15:13:44 <jsmith> adamw: Almost scary, isn't it?!?
15:13:54 * adamw waits for other shoe to drop
15:14:17 <adamw> #info f29 is rolling along fine atm, most openqa tests passing, no major disasters yet. Changes are still being worked on, of course
15:14:42 <adamw> i didn't really have much for this agenda item, just seemed like a standard one to have :) anyone have any notes, thoughts, questions etc. on f29 progress?
15:15:11 <adamw> note, mass rebuild is scheduled for 2018-07-11 and branch for 2018-08-14, so those are dates to note in your diary
15:15:15 * Southern_Gentlem good to see imabug contributing
15:16:12 <lruzicka> adamw: I dont want to hold others, but I was not able to make my rawhide isos to start in my openqa instance .... have you experienced troubles? They seems to work fine on the official instance.
15:16:56 <adamw> lruzicka: i haven't had issues booting isos lately, no...
15:17:00 <adamw> what happens in your case?
15:17:17 <lruzicka> ok, I will try to fidle around, it might be a pebkac again.
15:17:45 <lruzicka> adamw: the vm never boots, it stops at an error just after the grub menu is gone
15:18:07 <lruzicka> adamw: the error is in my virt-manager, but it does not stop from booting .. only in openwa
15:18:40 <lruzicka> adamw: I mean normal virtual machine boots despite the error, but the openqa does not
15:19:16 <adamw> hum, okay. let's look into it more outside of the meeting
15:19:27 <adamw> i'd say today but today is a holiday in canada so i'm planning to definitely not be working :P
15:19:29 <adamw> so maybe tomorrow
15:19:35 <lruzicka> adamw: ok, no problem
15:20:05 <lruzicka> enjoy the free time, you deserve it, adamw
15:20:46 <adamw> #topic Test Day status
15:20:57 <adamw> so, i was assuming sumantro would be around for this one...
15:21:04 <adamw> (and the next one)
15:21:06 * adamw looks at tickets
15:23:37 <adamw> #info four standard test day tickets are filed for f29 cycle but dates not yet decided, call for Test Days has been sent out. No test days are imminent at present
15:23:51 <adamw> any other notes there?
15:25:32 <adamw> #topic Onboarding status
15:25:38 <adamw> again, was hoping sumantro would be here :)
15:25:57 <adamw> #info from the ticket - https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/549 - looks like a date has not been set yet for the onboarding call, stay tuned for more details!
15:26:00 <adamw> anyone know any more?
15:28:00 <coremodule> nothing here...
15:28:09 <adamw> alrighty
15:28:22 <adamw> #topic Adam's Ticket O' The Week
15:28:29 <adamw> i know this is the agenda item you've all been waiting for!
15:28:41 <adamw> i'm sure you haven't been able to sleep all weekend, wondering what this exciting new thing could possibly be
15:28:44 <adamw> (right?)
15:28:48 <kparal> right!
15:28:51 <lruzicka> sure
15:29:07 <coremodule> ohhh yeah!
15:29:26 * adamw detects a very slight hint of sarcasm
15:29:48 <lruzicka> adamw: that is below the treshold
15:30:04 <adamw> alrighty, well, i just thought it might be fun each week to point up a ticket from the fedora-qa tracker that could use some attention, i.e. it can be worked on right now and it'd be good if someone got it done
15:30:48 <adamw> i already mentioned this week's ticket to coremodule in fact, but it gave me the idea of making it a semi-regular feature or something
15:30:50 <adamw> sooo, here we are: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/397
15:31:17 * kparal 's time is suddenly up
15:31:20 <adamw> there are some release criteria for which we don't actually have test case(s), or we have test case(s) but they don't fully 'cover' the criteria
15:31:26 * adamw nails kparal to the floor
15:31:56 <adamw> the lists in the ticket are kinda out of date, so part of what needs doing is just to update the info on which criteria need more test case coverage
15:31:57 * kparal prefers nails to testcases
15:32:04 <adamw> kparal: you're makin' me cry
15:32:28 <adamw> .fire kparal loving test cases is an essential requirement for QA work
15:32:28 <zodbot> adamw fires kparal loving test cases is an essential requirement for QA work
15:32:32 <Southern_Gentlem> hmmm any test cases for any language other than english is the one that pops into my head
15:32:41 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: we actually have several of those.
15:32:52 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Installation_test_matrix#Internationalization_and_Localization
15:32:55 <adamw> but good thinking!
15:33:12 <adamw> so, if anyone wants to help out with updating the lists in the ticket and/or actually creating the missing test cases, that'd be great :) (hi coremodule)
15:33:23 <kparal> our newer members suddenly know that they should volunteer themselves rather quick, after seeing my example...
15:33:39 <lruzicka> I can have a look, but I certainly will not be able to nail the whole list
15:33:59 <lruzicka> kparal: And I would volunteer even without your remark :D
15:34:06 <adamw> lruzicka: oh sure, wasn't expecting someone to do the whole lot
15:34:16 <coremodule> yep, I can take look!
15:34:20 <adamw> thanks folks
15:34:48 <adamw> so, if you're interested in helping out, please co-ordinate work through the ticket - you can post updated lists of criteria that still need test cases, link to test case drafts, etc.
15:35:15 <lruzicka> sure, I will put there what I will be on, so others might take theirs
15:36:40 <adamw> thanks a lot
15:37:14 <adamw> i'll certainly be following along to review drafts etc.
15:37:24 <lruzicka> ok, no problem :)
15:37:36 <adamw> any other notes on this before open floor?
15:39:25 * kparal 's time is up for reals. see you everyone
15:39:33 <adamw> cya kparal
15:39:38 <adamw> guess you didn't hve anything for open floor?
15:39:41 <kparal> nope
15:39:48 <adamw> cool
15:39:55 <adamw> so, good luck with your future job ;)
15:40:26 <kparal> I'm starting looking for it tomorrow
15:40:36 <adamw> i hear suse is hiring
15:40:59 <kparal> nah, gardening or yak shaving
15:41:04 * kparal departs
15:41:05 <adamw> yak gardening
15:41:08 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:41:21 <adamw> sooo, any other business, folks?
15:41:25 <tflink> yak hair gardening - plant the hair you shave off :)
15:42:57 <adamw> complaints, questions, requests for karaoke night
15:46:16 <adamw> welp, i guess we're done here, then
15:46:26 <adamw> and karaoke night's going to be a busyt
15:46:32 <adamw> thanks for coming along, folks~
15:46:38 * adamw sets fuse, tries to remember how to type
15:47:25 <jsmith> adamw: Karaoke?
15:47:29 * jsmith ducks and hides
15:47:59 <adamw> aha, i see jsmith is volunteering to start us off with My Way
15:48:02 <lruzicka> thank you very much, too, see you
15:48:36 <adamw> #endmeeting