#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll call (adamw, 15:00:35)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:07:21)
   1. no action items to follow up on (adamw, 15:07:40)
   2. following up on test day status, sumantrom informs us the next kernel test day will be 2018-06-12, and storage test day will be after that (adamw, 15:09:16)
   3. thanks to lruzicka and others for following up on the Ticket O' The Week, https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/397 , we already have some proposals under discussion (adamw, 15:09:36)
   
   
3. Fedora 29 status (adamw, 15:14:34)
   1. automated testing of composes up to 20180531.n.0 looked great, 20180603.n.1 has 19 failures so will need to look into that (adamw, 15:17:10)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings2 (adamw, 15:19:54)
   3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu (adamw, 15:20:07)
   4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/i686_Is_For_x86-64 (adamw, 15:20:30)
   5. discussion of changes "i686 Is For x86-64", "Hide the grub menu" and "Strong crypto settings: phase 2" (adamw, 15:25:14)
   6. lruzicka points out that "Hide the grub menu" might have issues if installing Fedora first and a different Linux distribution second (adamw, 15:25:39)
   7. "Hide the grub menu" Change's 'how to test' section is very bare and does not even cover checking that "Windows then Fedora" case does *not* have hidden boot menu (adamw, 15:27:01)
   8. ACTION: adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with concerns about 'how to test' sections (adamw, 15:39:54)
   
   
4. Release criteria discussions (adamw, 15:42:16)
   1. one topic for discussion is whether we still need/want the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria#Kickstarts criterion or whether git repo tags would be sufficient and much easier (adamw, 15:47:37)
   2. nirik, mboddu, lruzicka, adamw, kohane agreed it's worth looking into dropping the kickstart criterion (adamw, 15:56:25)
   3. ACTION: adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion (adamw, 15:56:38)
   
   
5. Open floor (adamw, 15:57:20)
   1. time running short, we will pick up remaining items next week (adamw, 15:57:28)

Action items

1. adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with concerns about 'how to test' sections
2. adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with concerns about 'how to test' sections
   2. adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (120)
2. Kohane (48)
3. lruzicka (24)
4. sumantrom (15)
5. zodbot (13)
6. nirik (3)
7. satellit (3)
8. Lailah (3)
9. tflink (2)
10. kparal (2)
11. coremodule (2)
12. mboddu (1)
13. x3mboy (1)
14. frantisekz (1)