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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-06-04/fedora-qa.2018-06-04-15.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call  (adamw, 15:00:35)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 15:07:21)
  * no action items to follow up on  (adamw, 15:07:40)
  * following up on test day status, sumantrom informs us the next
    kernel test day will be 2018-06-12, and storage test day will be
    after that  (adamw, 15:09:16)
  * thanks to lruzicka and others for following up on the Ticket O' The
    Week, https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/397 , we already have some
    proposals under discussion  (adamw, 15:09:36)

* Fedora 29 status  (adamw, 15:14:34)
  * automated testing of composes up to 20180531.n.0 looked great,
    20180603.n.1 has 19 failures so will need to look into that  (adamw,
    15:17:10)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings2
    (adamw, 15:19:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu
    (adamw, 15:20:07)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/i686_Is_For_x86-64
    (adamw, 15:20:30)
  * discussion of changes "i686 Is For x86-64", "Hide the grub menu" and
    "Strong crypto settings: phase 2"  (adamw, 15:25:14)
  * lruzicka points out that "Hide the grub menu" might have issues if
    installing Fedora first and a different Linux distribution second
    (adamw, 15:25:39)
  * "Hide the grub menu" Change's 'how to test' section is very bare and
    does not even cover checking that "Windows then Fedora" case does
    *not* have hidden boot menu  (adamw, 15:27:01)
  * ACTION: adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with
    concerns about 'how to test' sections  (adamw, 15:39:54)

* Release criteria discussions  (adamw, 15:42:16)
  * one topic for discussion is whether we still need/want the
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria#Kickstarts
    criterion or whether git repo tags would be sufficient and much
    easier  (adamw, 15:47:37)
  * nirik, mboddu, lruzicka, adamw, kohane agreed it's worth looking
    into dropping the kickstart criterion  (adamw, 15:56:25)
  * ACTION: adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion
    (adamw, 15:56:38)

* Open floor  (adamw, 15:57:20)
  * time running short, we will pick up remaining items next week
    (adamw, 15:57:28)

Meeting ended at 16:08:17 UTC.




Action Items
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* adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with concerns
  about 'how to test' sections
* adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to follow up on crypto and grub Change proposals with concerns
    about 'how to test' sections
  * adamw to draft proposal to drop the kickstart criterion
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (120)
* Kohane (48)
* lruzicka (24)
* sumantrom (15)
* zodbot (13)
* nirik (3)
* satellit (3)
* Lailah (3)
* tflink (2)
* kparal (2)
* coremodule (2)
* mboddu (1)
* x3mboy (1)
* frantisekz (1)




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