14:00:35 <pbrobinson> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
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14:00:35 <pbrobinson> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton
14:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson pwhalen
14:00:35 <pbrobinson> #topic roll call
14:00:44 * pwhalen is here
14:00:49 <pwhalen> morning folks
14:01:05 * ctron is here
14:01:16 <lorbus> .hello2
14:01:17 <zodbot> lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <c@petersen-glombek.de>
14:02:18 <pbrobinson> good afternoon everyone
14:02:38 * hopley greetings
14:02:51 <lorbus> o/
14:04:19 <pbrobinson> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:04:36 <pbrobinson> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IoT/PRD
14:05:08 <pbrobinson> #info bcotton provided an initial PRD, I've done some updates. Overall looks good as a first start
14:06:19 <pbrobinson> hopley I've seen your email, will reply
14:06:27 <pbrobinson> anyone else with any feedback?
14:10:09 <pbrobinson> #topic 2) ==== Nightly builds  ====
14:10:38 <pbrobinson> so rawhide is looking reasonable. I'm going to update the docs and send details to the list
14:11:14 <pbrobinson> I was holding out awaiting the mass rebuild merge plus a few other fixes and associated Fedora compose, we had one, and it's slowed a little this week
14:11:44 <pbrobinson> #info rawhide nightly composes are running, details going out today now f29 mass rebuild is merged
14:11:51 <pwhalen> has anyone hit any issues with the nightlies?
14:14:32 <pbrobinson> you're all a quiet lot today
14:14:41 <pbrobinson> #topic 3) ==== IoT Testing ====
14:14:56 <pwhalen> the grub2 issue on aarch64 is fixed, and now tagged into the compose, hopefully not too many hit that
14:14:57 <pbrobinson> I know a few have been testing 28 and rawhide
14:15:47 <pbrobinson> #info there's currently a rawhide issue with overlays which will affect adding things like wifi  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1607223
14:16:16 <pbrobinson> #info grub2 bug fixed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1601591
14:16:33 <HarryS|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
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14:18:07 <pbrobinson> lorbus: you about to give us a quick gsoc update?
14:18:29 <lorbus> sure
14:18:46 <pbrobinson> #topic4) === Quick GSoC update ===
14:19:14 <lorbus> the discussion in https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/issue/12 is still ongoing
14:19:33 <lorbus> but we have found a way forward now, which I'm implementing now
14:20:12 <lorbus> adding a boot_counter grubenv var, and using boot_once to get into the old the deployment if that fails
14:20:54 <pbrobinson> lorbus++ sounds fantastic!
14:21:01 <lorbus> progress hasn't been fast, but I'm optimistic this will a land in time before GSoC ends :)
14:21:23 <mrizo> what is "GSoC" ?
14:21:24 <majestic|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
14:21:24 <majestic|> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
14:21:28 <majestic|> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
14:21:28 <majestic|> Voice your opinions at https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#freenode
14:21:35 <pbrobinson> mrizo: Google Summer of Code
14:21:40 <lorbus> Google Summer of Code
14:21:41 <mrizo> :-)
14:22:05 <pbrobinson> mrizo: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
14:22:15 <lorbus> mrizo: pbrobinson proposed this project (Fedora IoT: Atomic Host Upgrade Daemon) and I'm the student participant =)
14:22:48 <mrizo> that is great
14:23:10 <lorbus> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#5936573426696192
14:26:46 <sekizo|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
14:26:49 <sekizo|> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
14:26:53 <sekizo|> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
14:26:56 <sekizo|> Voice your opinions at https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#freenode
14:27:24 <pingou> puiterwijk: should we invite freenode's bot here?
14:27:26 <pingou> oh it is here
14:27:34 <pwhalen> sounds awesome so far lorbus
14:27:38 <pbrobinson> thanks lorbus
14:27:41 <pbrobinson> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ====
14:27:51 <puiterwijk> pingou: sure. Though I don't have access (and should do so out of meeting)
14:28:02 <pbrobinson> Southern_Gentlem: you have ops, can you do some kickbans please
14:29:14 <pbrobinson> mrizo: don't forget to let me know the details of your atom platform, happy to do it via the #fedora-iot channel or email if it's easier
14:29:45 <Southern_Gentlem> i have been they are jumping to other networks
14:30:14 <mrizo> email will be necessary as this will long to describe (specific platform boot in different way)
14:30:56 <nb> pingou, sigyn will not join this channel, too likely to get accidentally klined, since people do #chair and stuff
14:31:12 <nb> we can change that, but people would have to be careful not to mass-ping since that is one thing that sigyn looks for
14:31:24 <pingou> nb: ok
14:31:26 <pbrobinson> mrizo: works for me
14:31:28 <nb> we have this channel blacklisted on sigyn
14:31:34 <pbrobinson> Southern_Gentlem: thanks
14:31:57 <pbrobinson> anyone else have general IoT related queries?
14:32:01 <Southern_Gentlem> freenode is banning them as well
14:33:15 <mrizo> just one question
14:33:33 <pbrobinson> mrizo: sure, go ahead
14:33:45 <mrizo> how likely the current version of Fedora IoT can slim down?
14:34:42 <pbrobinson> mrizo: working on it, there's a few issues/features I'm awaiting to get fixed in libdnf/rpm-ostree
14:34:44 <Affliction|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
14:34:50 <Affliction|> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
14:34:53 <Affliction|> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
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14:35:32 <mrizo> what is the current problem with dnf/ostree?
14:36:16 <pbrobinson> mrizo: it doesn't have the ability to turn on/off weak deps
14:36:28 <mrizo> ok.
14:36:46 <pbrobinson> #link bug for weak deps API in libdnf https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1582939
14:37:21 <pbrobinson> mrizo: that should drop a bunch of the deps, there's another bug around deps for initial-setup, which again will slim it down a lot
14:38:00 <pbrobinson> and initial-setup in general may go and be replaced with ignition from CoreOS depending on a few factors
14:38:20 <pbrobinson> so the plan is to slim it down quite a bit more
14:38:35 <mrizo> is there an "open issue" to track it down and follow up
14:39:03 <pbrobinson> mrizo: not currently, but I will open one so it can be used as a tracker, good idea :)
14:39:30 <mrizo> Thanks: goal will be to understand and help if possible
14:39:51 <pbrobinson> #action pbrobinson to open a issue on the IoT tracker for tracking initiatives for dependency reduction tracking
14:40:59 <pbrobinson> mrizo: and I've included a few things like bluez support in the base image that will likely get shoved up into a container in time, in the short term it just makes it usable
14:41:16 <pbrobinson> will add notes around that in the ticket and send you details
14:41:40 <pbrobinson> #link Fedora IoT main issue tracker https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/
14:42:49 <pbrobinson> does anyone have anything else?
14:43:11 * pwhalen does not
14:44:13 <pbrobinson> thank you all
14:44:13 <pbrobinson> #endmeeting