15:02:43 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
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15:02:53 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:02:56 <adamw> nah, it's my bad, i moved our meeting without checking :)
15:03:00 <rdieter> hi all, friendly kde-sig meeting, who's present today?
15:03:02 <tosky> o/
15:03:31 <rdieter> #info rdieter tosky present
15:03:34 <rdieter> #chair tosky
15:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: rdieter tosky
15:04:45 <rdieter> may be a quick meeting
15:04:52 <rdieter> (my favorite kind)
15:05:56 <tosky> a quick note about tellico
15:06:05 <tosky> which is not kde-sig, but still, it's related
15:06:16 <rdieter> #topic tellico
15:06:19 <rdieter> ok
15:07:07 <tosky> I updated tellico to the KF5 version and I took the liberty to asked the maintainer (José Abílio Matos) if he wanted to join the kde-sig group and add tellico to the group
15:07:12 <tosky> he seems to be open to it
15:07:38 <rdieter> you mean, give kde-sig group commit acl ?
15:08:07 <tosky> yes, and on the other side, have another package under it
15:08:27 <rdieter> ok, :thumbsup:
15:09:20 <rdieter> moving on...
15:09:27 <rdieter> (assuming that is all)
15:09:29 <tosky> thanks :)
15:09:40 <tosky> yes, so I can properly reply and continue the discussion
15:09:45 <rdieter> #topic Qt-5.11.1 f28 update
15:10:21 <rdieter> Qt-5.11.1 f28 update been sitting in updates-testing for about a week now
15:10:48 <tosky> and a big discussion arose in the last days
15:11:04 <rdieter> been getting generally positive feedback.  some extracuricular comments about whether it's suitable for a stable release
15:11:19 <rdieter> some links...
15:11:21 <rdieter> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-bea1e0b465
15:11:41 <rdieter> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1984
15:12:19 <rdieter> not too worried about the (slight) negativity... I think it's due mostly to misunderstanding
15:12:43 <rdieter> (I wish folks would try asking or talking to use *before* escalating things)
15:13:26 <rdieter> on the positive side, it highlighted one more private api user we didn't know about previously
15:13:36 <rdieter> .bug 1625239
15:13:37 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 1625239 – Qt5 dependencies, private api usage - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1625239
15:13:47 <rdieter> new since that last time I repoquery'd awhile back
15:13:54 <rdieter> hedgewars
15:14:03 <tosky> probably the best counterpoint that was raised is that the private header can break also in x.y.z updates, and you can't really block them
15:14:13 <rdieter> <nod>
15:14:57 <rdieter> it's almost as if we're being punished a little for tracking private api closer these days :-/
15:15:18 <rdieter> problems are obvious and visible now
15:15:47 <rdieter> on the postive side, it's an opportunity to educate folks better
15:16:03 <tosky> are there other big examples around? I can only think about poppler, but its version seems to be stable during the lifetime of a Fedora release
15:16:55 * rdieter thinks
15:17:43 <rdieter> I can't off the top of my head
15:19:59 <rdieter> hopefully we can give this update a little more time, say up to a week, but preferably no more than that.
15:20:29 <rdieter> have more items blocking on the way:  kf5-5.50, plasma-5.13.5
15:21:13 <rdieter> #topic open discussion
15:21:17 <rdieter> anything else for today?
15:21:31 <tosky> nothing from me
15:21:47 <rdieter> I guess I hinted at it already, kf5-5.50, plasma-5.13.5 released recently, I'm working on rawhide import script now
15:22:03 <rdieter> plasma-5.13.5 import just completed, builds underway, then will move on to kf5
15:22:43 <lruzicka> .hello2
15:22:44 <zodbot> lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com>
15:23:32 <lruzicka> rdieter, Sorry, thought that a different meeting was taking place.
15:23:49 <rdieter> lruzicka: qa?  #fedora-meeting-1 is going
15:24:02 <rdieter> no problem
15:24:31 <rdieter> and that's all I have for now too
15:24:54 <rdieter> thanks everyone
15:24:56 <rdieter> #endmeeting