20:00:05 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
20:00:05 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 19 20:00:05 2018 UTC.
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20:00:06 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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20:00:07 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:00:11 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:00:12 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:00:16 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
20:00:17 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
20:00:19 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch sub_pop
20:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
20:00:29 <stickster> #info asamalik and cverna send regrets
20:00:41 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
20:00:41 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
20:00:46 <stickster> o/ Link
20:01:00 <ryanlerch> hi sub_pop!
20:01:10 <sub_pop> good evening/morning
20:01:24 <ryanlerch> morning!
20:02:44 * stickster plunges right into it
20:02:50 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats
20:03:25 <stickster> #info Week of September 10: ~72.2K pageviews, up again from 69.4K the previous week!
20:03:36 <ryanlerch> stickster: fantastic!
20:04:34 <sub_pop> We had some comment-heavy articles recently. Seems like good feedback from readers.
20:04:37 <stickster> really excellent work... lots of good material this time. I saw a number of great posts on social media from random people saying how much they like what we're doing in the Magazine
20:05:10 <stickster> We're well on our way to best September ever
20:06:20 <stickster> #topic Drafts to review
20:06:23 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:06:32 <stickster> #info --- Steam Play and Proton ---
20:06:54 <stickster> not bothering to link, no content here. Looks like a new idea/pitch
20:07:20 <stickster> .fasinfo patxi
20:07:21 <zodbot> stickster: User: patxi, Name: Francisco J. vergara Torres, email: francisco.vergarat@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-10-08, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
20:07:25 <sub_pop> Sounds topical.
20:07:28 <zodbot> stickster: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
20:07:49 <sub_pop> Steam Play and Proton are trending topics these days
20:08:20 <stickster> For sure -- Steam is very popular. And IIRC it's pretty easy to install and run Steam stuff now on Fedora
20:08:47 <sub_pop> RPMFusion and/or Flatpak, yea.
20:09:52 <stickster> This user is not involved in any Fedora groups but I can reach out to see if they want to actually do this article.
20:09:57 <ryanlerch> +1 on the pitch for me
20:10:14 <sub_pop> I'm +1 on this, from what it teases. A guide on Steam and the recent updates around Proton would be nice.
20:10:16 <stickster> +1 from me, seems reasonable as long as all the software's legal to run (even if nonfree)
20:10:31 <sub_pop> Yep.
20:10:42 <stickster> #action stickster email patxi to find out if they'll do the article in question
20:10:59 <stickster> If no answer, we can claim it and do it amongst ourselves somehow
20:11:13 <stickster> anything else on this one?
20:11:17 <sub_pop> nope
20:12:20 <stickster> #info --- Python 3.7 ---
20:12:39 <stickster> #info stickster thinks Py3.7 article is his bad -- didn't email mcyprian like he was supposed to
20:13:37 <sub_pop> This does need to expand some though. It's too short as is.
20:14:13 <stickster> oh of course -- I just finished email, and asked him if he was still going to finish it, because there's more to 3.7 than just new PIP
20:14:36 <sub_pop> Cool
20:15:37 <ryanlerch> so this one sticking in drafts?
20:15:38 <stickster> anything else on this?
20:15:54 <stickster> yeah, it seems like a no-brainer, I think we said +1 last time in fact
20:16:11 <stickster> ryanlerch: I just failed to reach out to mcyprian to see if he can finish it
20:16:18 <ryanlerch> ah :)
20:17:50 <stickster> Hmm, that's all that's updated since last time in drafts :-\
20:18:05 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review
20:18:08 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
20:18:20 <stickster> #info --- new pitch: F29 Atomic/Cloud test day ---
20:18:57 <sub_pop> Hot on the heels of Silverblue test day
20:18:57 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=22661&preview=1&_ppp=5526f29bc3
20:19:23 <stickster> Fortunately there's some time still for this -- it's on October 1. So we can have some space between the posts. We don't want to become the Test Day Announcement Magazine
20:19:36 <sub_pop> Looks like it needs a basic editorial pass.
20:20:26 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, i have been trying to edit these into more of "whats new in ..."
20:20:46 <ryanlerch> and mention at the end we are testing
20:21:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: right, plus what sub_pop said as well. Maybe you could grab ksinny later today to see if she can help you with that part?
20:21:22 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, i can get this one done
20:21:29 <stickster> (if you don't know it off the top of your head -- sorry, I was making a big assumption because I don't!)
20:21:55 <stickster> #action ryanlerch contact ksinny and beef up the F29 Atomic/Cloud test day article
20:21:57 <ryanlerch> might write up a template or how-to for this
20:22:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: that's a GREAT idea
20:22:21 <ryanlerch> because the "what's new" is acutally perfect for the magazine
20:22:41 <stickster> ryanlerch: You could do that as a page on our WP, and link it on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days?rd=Test_Day
20:23:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: action that for me for next week! :D
20:23:31 <stickster> I'll bet sumantrom[m] adamw kparal would love to be able to refer folks to that... from what I gather, Fedora Magazine posts have actually resulted in an uptick in certain test day participation
20:23:55 <stickster> not sure if it's across the board but sumantrom[m] reported good results from at least a few recent iterations
20:24:01 <stickster> it can't hurt ;-)
20:24:25 <ryanlerch> yeah, we get suitable content, QA gets wider coverage
20:24:26 <ryanlerch> :)
20:24:33 <stickster> #action ryanlerch make a template for Test Day articles as a WP page, and link on the Fedora wiki page QA/Test_Days
20:25:00 <adamw> +100
20:25:21 <stickster> #info --- Python XAR ---
20:25:43 <stickster> #info cverna said he would have this ready so we could push it on Wed 2018-09-26
20:26:11 <ryanlerch> +1
20:26:48 <stickster> Unfortunately, that's all the news from Pitches, too :-(
20:27:00 <stickster> so we're relatively dry for this Fri/next Mon
20:28:22 <stickster> asamalik said we could "volunteer" him for something -- perhaps we could ask him to pull together "3-5 text based email apps" from the Starter Pitches bin
20:28:30 <stickster> #nick asamalik
20:29:04 <ryanlerch> i think we would pull together the whats new in cloud atomic article for Monday
20:29:49 <stickster> ryanlerch: potentially I think we have a F29 Beta release happening on Tuesday, right?
20:30:07 * stickster pokes mattdm about announcement
20:30:25 <stickster> go/no-go is tomorrow IIRC... *crosses fingers*
20:31:52 <stickster> in any case... we should keep our eyes open for that
20:32:28 * stickster is not going to firedrill this, have poked enough that I think the folks who run the show can get the needful done.
20:33:31 <stickster> sub_pop: any ideas for something we could pull together for Friday?
20:33:42 <sdgathman> I'm brewing an article on running your own 1) caching DNS (dnsmasq),  2) recursive DNS (bind, or something simpler I haven't tried yet)
20:33:48 <ryanlerch> i can get something together
20:34:10 <ryanlerch> i'm thinking "Video editing apps for Fedora"
20:34:12 <stickster> sdgathman: those sound interesting -- esp 1. because understanding it also helps people who run e.g. open-firmware routers
20:34:15 <ryanlerch> or something similar
20:34:32 <stickster> sdgathman: +1 on both ideas here
20:34:45 <stickster> ryanlerch: +1 on your idea as well
20:34:51 <stickster> #idea sdgathman caching DNS / dnsmasq
20:35:00 <stickster> #idea sdgathman recursive DNS / bind or similar
20:35:08 <stickster> #idea ryanlerch video editing apps
20:35:19 <stickster> #idea stickster memory followup on swap
20:35:38 <sdgathman> ryanlerch: I'm using openshot - in rpmfusion.  Does that count as fedora?
20:36:00 <ryanlerch> sdgathman: i probably cant include it sadly
20:36:25 <ryanlerch> openshot is in rpmfusion due to patent/legal issues IIRC
20:36:36 <sdgathman> Yes, MP4 is a patented file format
20:36:37 <stickster> probably enables ffmpeg stuff or similar.
20:38:09 <sub_pop> I still need to convert my anniversary article.
20:38:13 <sub_pop> :\
20:38:22 <stickster> sub_pop: I sent some ideas for questions
20:38:40 <sub_pop> Yea. We need to get our list of people together, and start pinging them.
20:39:06 <stickster> sub_pop: I recommend, this week email folks noted in our last meeting notes -- I think we had quite a list
20:39:38 <stickster> sub_pop: in case it helps, last week minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/magazine/magazine.2018-09-12-20.00.html
20:39:48 <sub_pop> Yep. I'll do that this week.
20:40:09 * stickster stands ready to answer :-)
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20:41:08 <stickster> If there's anyone out there reading this log and you've been around Fedora for pretty much the whole ride... let sub_pop, me, or ryanlerch know so we can get your input!
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20:41:29 <stickster> ha, scrollback art
20:41:35 <sub_pop> #action sub_pop email Fedora folks anniversary questions
20:42:06 * smooge slinks out the door before the questions start
20:42:44 <stickster> smooge: nice try!!!
20:42:46 <sub_pop> I want amusing anecdotes, not boring interview questions.
20:42:54 <stickster> expect email ;-)
20:43:54 <stickster> So we're still stuck on Friday -- I may try to whip up this swap followup, since I have to sit in a call quietly the next hour
20:44:12 <stickster> #action stickster fill up the Friday 2018-09-21 slot
20:44:17 <stickster> #topic Publishing schedule
20:46:01 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-09-21: Swap/TBA (stickster) -- Mon 2018-09-24: Atomic/Cloud what's new (ryanlerch) -- Tue 2018-09-25 (TENTATIVE): F29 Beta (mattdm) -- Wed 2018-09-27: XAR (cverna) -- Fri 2018-09-29: TBA (asamalik)
20:46:08 <ryanlerch> +1
20:46:22 <sub_pop> +1
20:46:28 <stickster> #agreed Fri 2018-09-21: Swap/TBA (stickster) -- Mon 2018-09-24: Atomic/Cloud what's new (ryanlerch) -- Tue 2018-09-25 (TENTATIVE): F29 Beta (mattdm) -- Wed 2018-09-27: XAR (cverna) -- Fri 2018-09-29: TBA (asamalik)
20:46:42 <stickster> Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to write I go ;-)
20:46:50 <stickster> #topic Open floor / All other business
20:47:29 <stickster> One thing we should discuss is whether we can get some more people involved. I'm inheriting a bit of new work over the near future and it may not be possible for me to whip up articles as frequenlty.
20:47:35 <stickster> nor spell correctly.
20:49:22 <stickster> I was thinking one way to do this might be to do several outreaches -- some internally in the Fedora community, and some in the general public, to invite writers
20:49:40 <ryanlerch> we could reach out to the package maintainers of major apps
20:49:57 <ryanlerch> it would be good to cover new releases availabe in fedora
20:50:40 <stickster> Yeah, like Firefox/LibreOffice/Ansible/other-cool-stacks
20:50:53 <sub_pop> Could we have a booth at FLOCK next year?
20:51:02 <stickster> Just for Magazine? I don't see why not.
20:51:24 <sub_pop> Yea, for the Magazine. For recruitment, publicity
20:51:36 <sub_pop> It
20:51:48 <sub_pop> 's a different avenue than another email-blast-o-gram.
20:51:52 <stickster> By the way, I want to report a bad failure on my part. I was scheduled to do a lightning talk on Magazine for Flock this year. But I was sick with some sort of food poisoning the night before all the way through the afternoon of my talk. And it sucked
20:52:09 <ryanlerch> :(
20:52:12 <sub_pop> Bummer.
20:52:17 <stickster> Not my talk, I mean being sick sucked. I missed the talk completely because of the nausea
20:52:40 <ryanlerch> not sure if we have ever gotten a contributor from out posts / twitter posts before
20:52:46 <stickster> Anyway, it's a sad reason to miss a good opportunity. But it happened. And I would really like to do one the coming Flock
20:52:53 <stickster> ryanlerch: me neither.
20:52:59 <sub_pop> Are we in this rotation somewhere? https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/en#designexclamation
20:53:05 <stickster> could be spitting in the wind I guess
20:53:13 <ryanlerch> maybe reaching out to individuals that could contribute content we want might help
20:53:29 <stickster> sub_pop: We are not! And we should be
20:53:51 <stickster> sub_pop: https://github.com/fedora-infra/asknot-ng -- that's the source repo, we could do a PR there
20:54:09 <stickster> #idea do a PR for asknot-ng that gets Magazine onto the whatcanidoforfedora.org site
20:54:22 <sub_pop> We are  https://github.com/fedora-infra/asknot-ng/blob/develop/questions/includes/fedora/writing.yml#L42
20:55:32 <stickster> Oh interesting -- yet we're not on the production site
20:56:20 <sub_pop> Yea, it is https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/en/#writing#blogging#more-formal#fedora-magazine
20:56:34 <stickster> huh... but yet I can't seem to get there from answering questions
20:56:36 <sub_pop> It's under "blogging". Which I found, odd.
20:56:49 <stickster> like, I can say no to docs and blogging, and never see magazine.
20:57:43 <sub_pop> That's our path: writing->blogging->more-formal->magazine!
20:57:43 * stickster will check with #fedora-admin to see if anyone knows why
20:58:05 <stickster> Oh i see
20:59:32 <stickster> I would have put an additional entry under "reporting" next to "blogging" and "docs"
20:59:38 <stickster> so multiple entry points
20:59:47 * stickster can do a PR for that :-)
20:59:51 <sub_pop> "journalism"?
20:59:56 <ryanlerch> \o/
20:59:56 <stickster> YeS!
21:00:00 <stickster> good call sub_pop
21:00:07 <stickster> sub_pop+++
21:00:15 <stickster> OK, gotta close up shop folks -- thanks for coming!
21:00:20 <stickster> #endmeeting