16:00:35 <bcotton> #startmeeting Prioritized bugs and issues 16:00:35 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 7 16:00:35 2018 UTC. 16:00:35 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:35 <zodbot> The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:35 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 16:00:36 <bcotton> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues 16:00:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 16:00:48 <bcotton> #topic Purpose of this meeting 16:00:49 <bcotton> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution. 16:01:03 <bcotton> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help contributors focus on the most important issues. 16:01:04 <bcotton> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/Prioritized_bugs_and_issues_-_the_process 16:01:13 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call 16:01:36 <mattdm> it me! 16:02:09 <bcotton> i've missed you! 16:02:19 <mattdm> i know it's been so long! 16:02:27 <bcotton> i'll go ahead and get started, it's another short meeting today because... 16:02:39 <bcotton> #topic Nominated bugs 16:02:41 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=POST&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&classification=Fedora&keywords=Triaged&keywords_type=nowords&list_id=9195844&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=PrioritizedBug&status_whiteboard_type=allwords 16:02:42 <bcotton> #info 0 nominated bugs 16:02:44 <bcotton> everything is perfect! 16:02:53 <mattdm> \o/ 16:03:13 <bcotton> so let's do a quick review of the existing bugs 16:03:16 <bcotton> #topic Require all other updates to be installed before allowing to start system upgrade 16:03:17 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336435 16:03:19 <bcotton> #info BZ 13364535 was accepted on 2017-08-02 16:03:51 <bcotton> #info Upstream bug has had no activity in the last year 16:03:52 <bcotton> #link https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/116 16:04:12 <bcotton> so it's basically down to QA and the package owner trying to convince each other that work should or should not happen on this bug 16:04:29 <mattdm> #popcorn 16:04:38 <bcotton> mattdm++ 16:04:38 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for mattdm changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:04:46 <mattdm> maybe we should try to facilitate a meeting of some sort? 16:04:57 <mattdm> maybe around devconf or fosdem? 16:05:07 <bcotton> that's a good idea 16:05:22 <bcotton> i will check and see if the interested parties are planning on being at either/both of those 16:05:25 <mattdm> bcotton++ 16:05:46 <bcotton> #action bcotton to coordinate a meeting with QA and package owner 16:06:14 <bcotton> #topic PackageKit accumulate over 18GBytes of RPM packages in /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata and fill my root filesystem with unused RPM files 16:06:15 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1306992 16:06:16 <bcotton> #info BZ 1306992 was accepted on 2018-08-29 16:06:39 <bcotton> #info NEEDINFO since 2018-08-10 16:07:30 <mattdm> same developer as previous bug :-/ 16:07:35 <bcotton> yeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhh 16:07:51 <bcotton> i believe last time you were #actioned to follow up (again) with him 16:08:12 <bcotton> so we're kind of hitting the bounds of what this process can actually *do* about a prioritized bug 16:08:59 <mattdm> Yeah, I agree. We need someone from Workstation to really champion this 16:09:27 <mattdm> I'll talk to Christian. 16:09:44 <bcotton> #action mattdm to talk to Christian to champion this bug from the Workstation perspective 16:09:53 <mattdm> it's worth noting that this is also the same dev having to deal with all the dnf changes that affect packagekit 16:10:00 <mattdm> so there's a lot of priorities to juggle 16:11:01 <mattdm> mail sent 16:11:15 <bcotton> do you know if there's any help in that regard, or if he's sort of left to manage it on his own? 16:11:47 <mattdm> bcotton: help is being worked on :-/ 16:11:57 <bcotton> roger 16:12:30 <bcotton> #topic In Gnome Wayland, forward-key-event does not work well, breaks space key completely 16:12:31 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625142 16:12:37 <bcotton> #info Bug is CLOSED 16:12:38 <bcotton> #action bcotton to remove from wiki page 16:12:46 <orc_fedo> in this bug, priorities juggling worries me ; 'the perfect final solution, whatever that is with no action for three months ... is the enemy of interim fixes'; perhaps just retaining the most recent N of a given name, sort of like with installing most recent N kernels is a good approach -- alternatively push an update with that rpm-cache-prune script and run at reboots, or something .. 16:12:52 <orc_fedo> oops -- too late 16:13:14 <bcotton> no worries, orc_fedo :-) 16:13:32 <mattdm> orc_fedo: yes, it's a good point 16:13:56 <mattdm> bcotton: oooh, this one is fixed. good for us! 16:14:06 <mattdm> one for the wins column! 16:14:11 <bcotton> huzzah 16:14:19 <bcotton> #topic Plymouth doesn't echo LUKS keypresses or show boot progress with amdgpu+LUKS 16:14:21 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490490 16:14:24 <bcotton> #info mattdm emailed hardware enablement and plymouth dev @ Red Hat 16:15:24 <mattdm> also I have an amd vega system now. but not had time to play with it :) 16:15:39 <bcotton> apparently it's not quite as simple as amd+LUKS 16:15:51 <mattdm> I'll check back with devs 16:15:59 <bcotton> #action mattdm to check back with devs 16:16:30 <bcotton> #topic selinux prevents loading of anything inside /etc/cron.d 16:16:31 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625645 16:16:35 * halfline adds a comment to the bug 16:16:44 <bcotton> #info Closed as duplicate of BZ 1639381 16:16:53 <bcotton> #info BZ 1639381 is CLOSED->ERRATA 16:16:56 <bcotton> another for the win column! 16:17:01 <bcotton> halfline++ 16:17:01 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for rstrode changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:17:55 <bcotton> and that's the end of my list 16:17:58 <mattdm> halfline++ 16:17:58 <zodbot> mattdm: Karma for rstrode changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:18:00 <mattdm> bcotton++ 16:18:05 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting 16:18:06 <bcotton> #info The next two meetings are canceled. We will meet again on 19 December at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting 16:18:17 <bcotton> anything else? 16:18:17 <mattdm> thanks ben! 16:18:26 <mattdm> nope! gonna go try to get some writing done. 16:18:30 <bcotton> woo! 16:18:33 <bcotton> #endmeeting