16:01:35 <bcotton> #startmeeting Prioritized bugs and issues
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16:01:36 <bcotton> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues
16:01:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues'
16:01:44 <bcotton> #topic Purpose of this meeting
16:01:45 <bcotton> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution.
16:01:51 <bcotton> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help  contributors focus on the most important issues.
16:01:52 <bcotton> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/Prioritized_bugs_and_issues_-_the_process
16:01:55 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call
16:03:49 <mattdm> oh here i am
16:03:55 <bcotton> oh hey, it's a mattdm
16:03:57 <bcotton> #chair mattdm
16:03:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton mattdm
16:04:04 <mattdm> one day I'll get the hang of this "channel" thing
16:04:19 <bcotton> we need to give them cooler names
16:04:32 <bcotton> #topic Nominated bugs
16:04:38 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=POST&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&classification=Fedora&keywords=Triaged&keywords_type=nowords&list_id=9195844&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=PrioritizedBug&status_whiteboard_type=allwords
16:04:39 <bcotton> #info 1 nominated bug
16:04:52 <bcotton> #topic Switch User menu item is missing
16:04:53 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1576903
16:05:22 <bcotton> oh... actually, we accepted this and i didn't update it?
16:05:28 <mattdm> it looks like there's a possible fix pending
16:05:45 <bcotton> #info BZ 1576903 was previously accepted and did not get properly updated
16:06:02 <bcotton> #info possible fix pending
16:06:05 <bcotton> #link https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/accountsservice/pull-request/3
16:06:22 <mattdm> reading... actually upgrade that to "very likely fix"
16:06:50 <bcotton> so i guess we'll leave this one for now and if it's not merged by the next meeting we can nudge people
16:07:09 <mattdm> agreed
16:07:42 <bcotton> #action bcotton to properly update whiteboard field
16:07:44 <bcotton> #topic Accepted bugs
16:07:50 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=POST&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&classification=Fedora&keywords=Triaged&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=9195442&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=PrioritizedBug&status_whiteboard_type=allwords
16:07:51 <bcotton> #info 2 accepted bugs
16:07:57 <bcotton> #topic Require all other updates to be installed before allowing to start system upgrade
16:07:58 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336435
16:08:08 <bcotton> #info BZ 13364535 was accepted on 2017-08-02
16:08:09 <bcotton> #info Will try to coordinate a meeting near DevConf/FOSDEM to coordinate a solution
16:08:23 <bcotton> so when we last discussed this, it sounded like it was going to be hard to get people in a room together to hash this out
16:09:07 <mattdm> yeah, which is too bad because I see that as the only road to progress
16:09:35 <mattdm> I'm inclined to drop this as "we need you all to talk but can't force that to happen"
16:09:43 <bcotton> do we think everyone will be at Flock? i hate to kick the can that far down the road, but we've already waited a long time
16:10:03 <mattdm> ALSO, assuming we are targetting moving to Silverblue as our main desktop offering in the next few years, maybe it *shouldn't* be a priority
16:10:23 <mattdm> This is exactly the thing that movign to that update model solves
16:10:29 <bcotton> if nothing else, this makes the silverblue argument more compelling
16:11:07 <mattdm> yeah
16:11:55 <bcotton> proposed #agreed BZ 13364535 will be removed from the PrioritizedBugs list. It's important, but needs to be solved between the developers. We cannot force a resolution
16:12:04 <bcotton> i don't like that wording, but...
16:13:26 <mattdm> Do we want to mention silverblue?
16:13:40 <bcotton> what's the timing of that?
16:14:04 <bcotton> if it's more than a release or two away, it feels like a copout to mention it (not to mention a potential hornets nest that doesn't need kicking)
16:14:47 <mattdm> It's probably two releases away
16:15:06 <mattdm> I guess I'm okay with not kicking nests
16:15:29 <bcotton> one swarm at a time :-)
16:15:42 <bcotton> you okay with this then?
16:16:12 <mattdm> yeah
16:16:17 <bcotton> #agreed BZ 13364535 will be removed from the PrioritizedBugs list. It's important, but needs to be solved between the developers. We cannot force a resolution
16:16:31 <bcotton> #topic Plymouth doesn't echo LUKS keypresses or show boot progress with amdgpu+LUKS
16:16:33 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490490
16:16:37 <bcotton> #info Bug filed upstream
16:16:39 <bcotton> #info https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109282
16:17:02 <bcotton> i'm inclined to drop this. the bug is filed upstream and there's not much more prioritizing we can do from our end
16:17:09 <bcotton> but we can also leave it just as a tracker
16:19:11 * mattdm reading
16:19:41 <mattdm> let's leave it as a tracker
16:19:53 <bcotton> worksforme
16:20:05 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting
16:20:15 <bcotton> mattdm: will you be available on 30 Jan for the meeting?
16:21:24 <mattdm> nope!
16:21:31 <bcotton> cool, then i'll cancel
16:21:32 <mattdm> thanks for asking :)
16:22:10 <bcotton> #info the next meeting is canceled. We will meet again on 13 February at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting
16:22:16 <mattdm> thanks bcotton!
16:22:46 <bcotton> anything else, mattdm?
16:24:18 <mattdm> that's all. thanks!
16:24:25 <bcotton> hooray!
16:24:27 <bcotton> #endmeeting