14:11:28 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 14:11:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 20 14:11:28 2019 UTC. 14:11:28 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:11:28 <zodbot> The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11:28 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:11:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 14:11:59 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton laubersm lorbus tdawson 14:11:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton laubersm lorbus pbrobinson pwhalen tdawson 14:12:02 <lorbus> .hello2 14:12:04 <zodbot> lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <cglombek@redhat.com> 14:12:18 <tdawson> .hello2 14:12:19 <zodbot> tdawson: tdawson 'None' <tdawson@redhat.com> 14:12:22 <pwhalen> good morning folks, sorry for the late start. Peter must be tied up 14:12:27 <laubersm> .hello2 14:12:28 <zodbot> laubersm: laubersm 'Susan Lauber' <laubersm+fedora@gmail.com> 14:13:35 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin ==== 14:13:55 <pwhalen> I am not sure we have anything here. does anyone have any updates? 14:14:05 <laubersm> I'll pipe in here. 14:14:09 <laubersm> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs/tree/getting-started 14:14:23 <laubersm> The getting started branch of the docs has the latest pushes. 14:14:43 <laubersm> It needs a quick review before going live. 14:14:52 <laubersm> I think that is on pbrobinson list. 14:15:06 <laubersm> I have a couple more days on the contract. 14:15:27 <laubersm> Unless I get suggestions I am just going to add a few admin tasks. 14:15:33 <tdawson> laubersm: So is this your last week with our group? 14:15:42 <pwhalen> we should all take a look as well, I will read through it today. Sorry for the delay 14:16:57 <laubersm> tdawson, the funding was some leftover in F19 which ends Feb 28. 14:17:23 <laubersm> and I go back to teaching next week which limits my time after this week. 14:17:29 <laubersm> I won't go far. 14:17:31 <pwhalen> laubersm++ 14:17:44 <tdawson> :) Well, you've done alot of great work in a short amount of time ... thank you 14:18:10 <laubersm> Its been fun. 14:18:16 <pwhalen> from what I have read, it looks great. Thanks for all the hard work. Sadly it appears my cookie did work. Perhaps an apple is better anyways :) 14:18:18 <laubersm> And it got my pi out of the box! 14:18:33 <pwhalen> s/did/didnt/ 14:19:25 <pwhalen> anything else for this topic? 14:19:38 <laubersm> that's it from me. 14:19:48 <laubersm> thanks for the opportunity! 14:20:47 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 29 Release 2 ==== 14:21:18 <pwhalen> has anyone had a chance to do some testing? 14:21:39 <tdawson> I don't know where the images/repo's are to do F29 tests 14:21:39 <lorbus> laubersm++ 14:21:39 <zodbot> lorbus: Karma for laubersm changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:22:09 <tdawson> Or are there not new images and we just need to test the switchover? 14:22:22 <pwhalen> tdawson, the composes land here - https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose//iot/ 14:22:42 <pwhalen> latest for f29 - https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose//iot/Fedora-IoT-29-20190214.0/ 14:22:49 <tdawson> pwhalen: Ya!! ... ok, thanks 14:22:50 * ipcloud I have Fedora-IoT-ostree-x86_64-30-20190214.0.iso on one system 14:23:09 <tdawson> I'll get some testing done on ^^ image 14:23:22 <pwhalen> the composes also appear to be live, so an update should do it. 14:24:00 <pwhalen> on the rpi3 - output is broken. I dont see anything on the console or display 14:24:16 <pwhalen> I think this is the biggest issue right now 14:24:23 <laubersm> I have been writing with updates (29.20190214.0 at the moment) but have not tested a new image. 14:24:57 <pwhalen> doing an upgrade from the previous release works OK for me, but the new image gives me no output. 14:25:03 <tdawson> pwhalen: Do you know if the output is going to serial port? 14:25:13 <pwhalen> only on the rpi3 14:25:38 <pwhalen> tdawson, sadly, no output from serial console or display 14:26:17 <tdawson> bummer ... ok. That makes it hard to setup a new image, because you have to do the user setup on firstboot 14:26:25 <pwhalen> we think its the new firmware provided device tree, and contingency I believe is to revert. 14:26:53 <pwhalen> tdawson, right, if youre on the rpi the new image wont work. 14:27:38 <pwhalen> pbrobinson may have something else up his sleeve 14:28:02 <tdawson> OK ... is there already a bugzilla for that? 14:28:52 <pwhalen> tdawson, no BZ that I know of 14:29:17 * pwhalen will open one today 14:29:32 * tdawson nods. 14:30:15 <pwhalen> ipcloud, have you seen any other issues in your testing? 14:31:11 * ipcloud only running rpm-ostree --> hangs 14:31:40 * ipcloud I was looking to get the Mozilla Things Gateway 14:31:42 <ipcloud> next 14:32:17 <pwhalen> ipcloud, is this hardware or a vm? 14:32:19 * ipcloud should I look to the RPi3B+ to install? 14:32:28 * ipcloud h/w 14:33:32 * pbrobinson is here 14:33:34 <pbrobinson> sorry 14:33:34 <pwhalen> ok, doesnt that sound good. I saw similar issues on the upgraded rpi3, but I thought it was working okay in an x86 vm 14:33:38 * pbrobinson reads back 14:34:12 <pwhalen> yay! :) 14:34:33 <ipcloud> pwhalen: anything specific I can attempt or provide details related to this? 14:34:46 <pbrobinson> laubersm: I'll take the docs bit to the iot channel 14:35:15 <tdawson> ipcloud: Are you looking for the Mozilla Things Gateway in rpm form? Because that package is still in fedora review. 14:35:18 <laubersm> pbrobinson, got it 14:35:21 <lorbus> o/ pbrobinson 14:35:37 <pwhalen> ipcloud, perhaps a bz with the details, then we can add to it if we can reproduce 14:36:07 <pbrobinson> lorbus: yes 14:36:17 <pwhalen> ipcloud, I will try and reproduce after the meeting 14:36:20 <ipcloud> tdawson: no not rpm at this time -- I have a running GW and was thinking ... what to start with of FIoT 14:36:30 <pbrobinson> does anyone else have anything, from a quick read pwhalen covers things I had one my list 14:36:36 <ipcloud> pwhalen: will do 14:36:40 <pbrobinson> lorbus: go ahead 14:36:52 <lorbus> #info greenboot v0.6 has landed in rawhide 14:36:54 <pwhalen> ipcloud, thanks and thanks for testing :) 14:37:05 <pbrobinson> lorbus: yes, I noticed 14:37:20 <pbrobinson> lorbus++ and I've asked people that were interested to test 14:37:38 <lorbus> if you get a chance, please test :) I think for distro integration, they'll need presets for enablement 14:37:54 <pbrobinson> lorbus: what's the time line for 0.7, I seem to remember you mentioning that would have integration with ostree upgrade/rollback? 14:38:22 <pbrobinson> lorbus: I can add presets to the fedora-release-iot package when you're ready 14:38:51 <lorbus> there are currently changes coming to rpm-/ostree (to introduce hooks or similar to run on upgrade/staging) 14:39:14 <lorbus> for the time being one has to set the grubenv manually to activate boot counting and auto rollback 14:39:50 <lorbus> (there is a script showing how to do that in /tests in the repo) 14:41:41 * pwhalen added greenboot to his list of iot tasks 14:41:51 <lorbus> is automatic rpm-ostree upgrades enabled by default on IoT right now? 14:42:12 <pwhalen> lorbus, no 14:42:37 <pbrobinson> lorbus: will that integrate with the BLS changes that are going into F-30? 14:42:52 <lorbus> ok, adding the greenboot presets can probably wait until then 14:43:32 <pbrobinson> lorbus: no, auto updates isn't, but it's on my todo list for F-30 14:44:03 <lorbus> pbrobinson: Yes, ostree will shuffle some things around. Might need to change the fallback conuting logic in grub2 accordingly, but that is yet to be seen 14:45:04 <lorbus> FCOS will probably re-implement fallback logic to accomodate for its specific needs, but we need to wait and see how rpm-ostree handles BLS fragments in the future 14:45:51 <pbrobinson> lorbus: OK, thanks for the update, keep us in the loop as things evolve 14:47:15 <lorbus> will do! 14:48:03 <pbrobinson> anyone have any thing else? 14:48:13 <tdawson> Just wanted to give an update on gateway 14:48:32 <pwhalen> yes please, tdawson 14:48:48 <tdawson> Still waiting for the fedora review to be approved. Haven't heard anything from jsmith this week, so I don't know if I need to do anything more or if he's just busy. 14:49:06 <tdawson> I've finished all the other rpms (5 in total) so that the addon's work. 14:49:28 <tdawson> I'm doing final testing today, and should have those in for a fedora review hopefully by tomorrow. 14:49:44 <pbrobinson> tdawson: I suspect the later, I was going to poke him shortly 14:50:04 <tdawson> pbrobinson: That will be good to get that review finished. 14:50:34 <pbrobinson> tdawson: agreed :) 14:51:11 <tdawson> So, for all the addon's to work you'll need mozilla-iot-gateway mozilla-iot-gateway-addon-node and mozilla-iot-gateway-addon-python ... but you'll also need the support packages of nanomsg and python-nnpy 14:52:07 <tdawson> Anyway, I've gotten those so the addon's don't fail when they are loaded ... but I haven't tested in a real world situation, so I don't konw if they are really working, or just not failling. 14:52:54 <tdawson> I should have that tested today, and if all goes well, I'll send an email to iot mailling list, and start some fedora reviews for the packages. 14:53:29 <tdawson> I think that's it. If you can ping jsmith about the first review, I would appreciate it. 14:53:50 <pwhalen> nice- sounds good, tdawson. thanks 14:54:57 <pbrobinson> tdawson: I think even just getting the base bits in for wider testing is an awesome start :) 14:54:58 <pwhalen> anything else for F29? 14:56:44 <tdawson> pbrobinson: Yes. Since right now it will pull down whatever add-ons you want, I'm putting those the the lower priority. Once these base parts are done, then we can decide what add-ons people want in packages and start those going. 14:58:21 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Open Floor ==== 14:58:34 <pwhalen> less than two minutes for open floor, did anyone have anything else? 14:58:49 <tdawson> Nothing from me 14:59:52 <pwhalen> #endmeeting