14:11:28 #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 14:11:28 Meeting started Wed Feb 20 14:11:28 2019 UTC. 14:11:28 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:11:28 The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:11:28 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 14:11:59 #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton laubersm lorbus tdawson 14:11:59 Current chairs: bcotton laubersm lorbus pbrobinson pwhalen tdawson 14:12:02 .hello2 14:12:04 lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' 14:12:18 .hello2 14:12:19 tdawson: tdawson 'None' 14:12:22 good morning folks, sorry for the late start. Peter must be tied up 14:12:27 .hello2 14:12:28 laubersm: laubersm 'Susan Lauber' 14:13:35 #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin ==== 14:13:55 I am not sure we have anything here. does anyone have any updates? 14:14:05 I'll pipe in here. 14:14:09 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs/tree/getting-started 14:14:23 The getting started branch of the docs has the latest pushes. 14:14:43 It needs a quick review before going live. 14:14:52 I think that is on pbrobinson list. 14:15:06 I have a couple more days on the contract. 14:15:27 Unless I get suggestions I am just going to add a few admin tasks. 14:15:33 laubersm: So is this your last week with our group? 14:15:42 we should all take a look as well, I will read through it today. Sorry for the delay 14:16:57 tdawson, the funding was some leftover in F19 which ends Feb 28. 14:17:23 and I go back to teaching next week which limits my time after this week. 14:17:29 I won't go far. 14:17:31 laubersm++ 14:17:44 :) Well, you've done alot of great work in a short amount of time ... thank you 14:18:10 Its been fun. 14:18:16 from what I have read, it looks great. Thanks for all the hard work. Sadly it appears my cookie did work. Perhaps an apple is better anyways :) 14:18:18 And it got my pi out of the box! 14:18:33 s/did/didnt/ 14:19:25 anything else for this topic? 14:19:38 that's it from me. 14:19:48 thanks for the opportunity! 14:20:47 #topic 2) ==== Fedora 29 Release 2 ==== 14:21:18 has anyone had a chance to do some testing? 14:21:39 I don't know where the images/repo's are to do F29 tests 14:21:39 laubersm++ 14:21:39 lorbus: Karma for laubersm changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:22:09 Or are there not new images and we just need to test the switchover? 14:22:22 tdawson, the composes land here - https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose//iot/ 14:22:42 latest for f29 - https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose//iot/Fedora-IoT-29-20190214.0/ 14:22:49 pwhalen: Ya!! ... ok, thanks 14:22:50 * ipcloud I have Fedora-IoT-ostree-x86_64-30-20190214.0.iso on one system 14:23:09 I'll get some testing done on ^^ image 14:23:22 the composes also appear to be live, so an update should do it. 14:24:00 on the rpi3 - output is broken. I dont see anything on the console or display 14:24:16 I think this is the biggest issue right now 14:24:23 I have been writing with updates (29.20190214.0 at the moment) but have not tested a new image. 14:24:57 doing an upgrade from the previous release works OK for me, but the new image gives me no output. 14:25:03 pwhalen: Do you know if the output is going to serial port? 14:25:13 only on the rpi3 14:25:38 tdawson, sadly, no output from serial console or display 14:26:17 bummer ... ok. That makes it hard to setup a new image, because you have to do the user setup on firstboot 14:26:25 we think its the new firmware provided device tree, and contingency I believe is to revert. 14:26:53 tdawson, right, if youre on the rpi the new image wont work. 14:27:38 pbrobinson may have something else up his sleeve 14:28:02 OK ... is there already a bugzilla for that? 14:28:52 tdawson, no BZ that I know of 14:29:17 * pwhalen will open one today 14:29:32 * tdawson nods. 14:30:15 ipcloud, have you seen any other issues in your testing? 14:31:11 * ipcloud only running rpm-ostree --> hangs 14:31:40 * ipcloud I was looking to get the Mozilla Things Gateway 14:31:42 next 14:32:17 ipcloud, is this hardware or a vm? 14:32:19 * ipcloud should I look to the RPi3B+ to install? 14:32:28 * ipcloud h/w 14:33:32 * pbrobinson is here 14:33:34 sorry 14:33:34 ok, doesnt that sound good. I saw similar issues on the upgraded rpi3, but I thought it was working okay in an x86 vm 14:33:38 * pbrobinson reads back 14:34:12 yay! :) 14:34:33 pwhalen: anything specific I can attempt or provide details related to this? 14:34:46 laubersm: I'll take the docs bit to the iot channel 14:35:15 ipcloud: Are you looking for the Mozilla Things Gateway in rpm form? Because that package is still in fedora review. 14:35:18 pbrobinson, got it 14:35:21 o/ pbrobinson 14:35:37 ipcloud, perhaps a bz with the details, then we can add to it if we can reproduce 14:36:07 lorbus: yes 14:36:17 ipcloud, I will try and reproduce after the meeting 14:36:20 tdawson: no not rpm at this time -- I have a running GW and was thinking ... what to start with of FIoT 14:36:30 does anyone else have anything, from a quick read pwhalen covers things I had one my list 14:36:36 pwhalen: will do 14:36:40 lorbus: go ahead 14:36:52 #info greenboot v0.6 has landed in rawhide 14:36:54 ipcloud, thanks and thanks for testing :) 14:37:05 lorbus: yes, I noticed 14:37:20 lorbus++ and I've asked people that were interested to test 14:37:38 if you get a chance, please test :) I think for distro integration, they'll need presets for enablement 14:37:54 lorbus: what's the time line for 0.7, I seem to remember you mentioning that would have integration with ostree upgrade/rollback? 14:38:22 lorbus: I can add presets to the fedora-release-iot package when you're ready 14:38:51 there are currently changes coming to rpm-/ostree (to introduce hooks or similar to run on upgrade/staging) 14:39:14 for the time being one has to set the grubenv manually to activate boot counting and auto rollback 14:39:50 (there is a script showing how to do that in /tests in the repo) 14:41:41 * pwhalen added greenboot to his list of iot tasks 14:41:51 is automatic rpm-ostree upgrades enabled by default on IoT right now? 14:42:12 lorbus, no 14:42:37 lorbus: will that integrate with the BLS changes that are going into F-30? 14:42:52 ok, adding the greenboot presets can probably wait until then 14:43:32 lorbus: no, auto updates isn't, but it's on my todo list for F-30 14:44:03 pbrobinson: Yes, ostree will shuffle some things around. Might need to change the fallback conuting logic in grub2 accordingly, but that is yet to be seen 14:45:04 FCOS will probably re-implement fallback logic to accomodate for its specific needs, but we need to wait and see how rpm-ostree handles BLS fragments in the future 14:45:51 lorbus: OK, thanks for the update, keep us in the loop as things evolve 14:47:15 will do! 14:48:03 anyone have any thing else? 14:48:13 Just wanted to give an update on gateway 14:48:32 yes please, tdawson 14:48:48 Still waiting for the fedora review to be approved. Haven't heard anything from jsmith this week, so I don't know if I need to do anything more or if he's just busy. 14:49:06 I've finished all the other rpms (5 in total) so that the addon's work. 14:49:28 I'm doing final testing today, and should have those in for a fedora review hopefully by tomorrow. 14:49:44 tdawson: I suspect the later, I was going to poke him shortly 14:50:04 pbrobinson: That will be good to get that review finished. 14:50:34 tdawson: agreed :) 14:51:11 So, for all the addon's to work you'll need mozilla-iot-gateway mozilla-iot-gateway-addon-node and mozilla-iot-gateway-addon-python ... but you'll also need the support packages of nanomsg and python-nnpy 14:52:07 Anyway, I've gotten those so the addon's don't fail when they are loaded ... but I haven't tested in a real world situation, so I don't konw if they are really working, or just not failling. 14:52:54 I should have that tested today, and if all goes well, I'll send an email to iot mailling list, and start some fedora reviews for the packages. 14:53:29 I think that's it. If you can ping jsmith about the first review, I would appreciate it. 14:53:50 nice- sounds good, tdawson. thanks 14:54:57 tdawson: I think even just getting the base bits in for wider testing is an awesome start :) 14:54:58 anything else for F29? 14:56:44 pbrobinson: Yes. Since right now it will pull down whatever add-ons you want, I'm putting those the the lower priority. Once these base parts are done, then we can decide what add-ons people want in packages and start those going. 14:58:21 #topic 3) ==== Open Floor ==== 14:58:34 less than two minutes for open floor, did anyone have anything else? 14:58:49 Nothing from me 14:59:52 #endmeeting