20:01:26 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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20:01:27 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
20:01:27 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik
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20:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik cverna ryanlerch stickster
20:01:30 <asamalik> .hello2
20:01:31 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
20:01:40 <cverna> hello o/
20:01:47 * asamalik waves
20:04:58 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:04:59 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:05:21 <gregbartholomew> .hello glb
20:05:22 <zodbot> gregbartholomew: glb 'Gregory Lee Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
20:05:49 <stickster> asamalik: I can't stay for more than a couple minutes but you can #action me with something. I am already on the hook for an article -- it was supposed to be FFSend for this Friday, but I'm not confident it will be ready from the author then.
20:06:24 <stickster> I'd be happy to edit the COPR or music tweaking articles for then, or something else.
20:06:35 <stickster> Just let me know what it is and I'll catch up in the morning :-)
20:07:03 <gregbartholomew> * crickets ...
20:07:20 <asamalik> stickster: cool! thanks
20:07:29 <asamalik> #topic Last week's stats
20:07:29 <asamalik> #info Week of Apr 8: 63.8K pageviews -- down from the last week, but not bad
20:09:38 <asamalik> #topic Pending review posts
20:09:38 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
20:10:00 <asamalik> #info --- 2 new apps for music tweakers on Fedora Workstation ---
20:10:05 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=24896&preview=true
20:10:37 <cverna> nice one from jwf
20:11:01 <asamalik> this one looks really good
20:11:26 <cverna> that might be actually a good fit for friday if FFSend is not ready
20:11:54 <asamalik> cverna: yeah
20:12:20 <gregbartholomew> My only thought is that the i3 reference seems a bit out of context; not a big deal though.
20:12:28 <asamalik> although Justin mentioned that one of the packages might not be ready
20:12:32 <asamalik> verifying...
20:12:59 <asamalik> yeah playerctl not available yet
20:14:35 <gregbartholomew> Ah, I see that later in the article he does do something with i3. Still though, I don't think I'd put the i3 reference at the top since it isn't the focus of the article.
20:15:47 <cverna> yes not a big deal for me
20:16:10 <cverna> I guess he is just using i3 as WM
20:18:00 <asamalik> yeah.. I'm ok with that, but I don't have a strong preference
20:18:10 <asamalik> the editor can do things with it :)
20:18:13 <asamalik> any volunteers?
20:18:48 <cverna> I think stickster volunteered himself :P
20:19:16 <asamalik> cverna: haha true :P
20:19:17 <gregbartholomew> I don't think I'm an editor, so "not me" will have to do it. :P
20:20:19 <asamalik> #action stickster to edit + image the 2 new apps for music tweakers on Fedora Workstation article
20:20:33 <asamalik> #info --- 4 cool new projects to try in COPR for April 2019 ---
20:20:39 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=27282&preview=true
20:21:11 <asamalik> I'd push this on on Friday since it mentions April :)
20:21:42 <gregbartholomew> +1
20:21:55 <cverna> +1
20:22:12 <asamalik> I'll take it
20:22:27 <asamalik> #action asamalik to edit the 4 cool new projects to try in COPR for April 2019 article
20:22:29 <gregbartholomew> Interesting: it says "comments are closed" and then there is a "leave a reply" box shown.
20:22:49 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: probably because it's not published yet?
20:22:53 <asamalik> but yeah it's weird
20:22:59 <asamalik> maybe it can't decide
20:23:25 <gregbartholomew> Just something to watch out for since I messed mine up earlier.
20:24:02 <asamalik> ha good point :)
20:24:06 * cverna is still a newbie at wordpress :) I don't always understand how things works there
20:24:21 <asamalik> there's one more in pending review but it feels like a pitch so let's look at it later
20:24:45 <cverna> yes the author spamed our mailing list with the same pitch
20:24:45 <asamalik> #topic Drafts to review
20:24:45 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:25:15 <asamalik> #info --- Mirror your System Drive using Software RAID ---
20:25:21 * asamalik #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25485&preview=true
20:25:28 <gregbartholomew> \o/
20:25:32 <asamalik> cverna: ah yeah...
20:25:43 <asamalik> but this one looks good :D
20:25:50 <cverna> :)
20:26:00 <asamalik> I noticed there was some discussion on the list about it?
20:26:05 * asamalik haven't read it fully
20:26:06 <gregbartholomew> I have a few complaints about SEO's complaints.
20:26:24 <gregbartholomew> Yeah. The first draft was too long.
20:26:39 <gregbartholomew> I've tried to make this one more terse.
20:27:30 <asamalik> it's longer than average but it looks good to me!
20:27:52 <asamalik> you can't probably do a short one on RAID with examples :P
20:27:53 <cverna> yes looks good to me too ;)
20:28:01 <gregbartholomew> The SEO scoring says that I have too many consecutive sentences with the same words.
20:28:32 <gregbartholomew> I think today's article was just that?
20:29:01 <cverna> ha that's because it looks at code sample or configuration sample too
20:29:26 <gregbartholomew> I think the "consecutive sentences" that the SEO scoring is referring to are the list items.
20:29:42 <gregbartholomew> I start several of them with "Use x to ..."
20:29:58 <cverna> ah ok :)
20:30:03 <gregbartholomew> But they really aren't "consecutive". There is lots of content between them.
20:30:24 <gregbartholomew> So I'm ignoring that complaint. :P
20:30:45 <cverna> +1
20:30:50 <gregbartholomew> Just FYI to the editor who might try to "fix" the problem -- it really isn't a problem in my view.
20:30:59 <asamalik> I think writing paragraphs has different rules than writing bulletpoints with examples.. and I feel like the SEO plugin is more for the first
20:31:13 <gregbartholomew> Also, SEO says that I don't have enough sub-sections.
20:31:48 <gregbartholomew> Yeah, same situation -- SEO isn't counting each of the list items as a separate section.
20:31:59 <bcotton> I spend a lot of time telling my SEO plugin to shut up. It's like the Pirates' Code...more like guidelines :-)
20:32:03 <gregbartholomew> But they are separate sections; in my view anyway.
20:33:05 <gregbartholomew> Well, stickster was encouraging us to try to make it happy, but unless he says otherwise, I think the list format is fine.
20:33:55 <cverna> yes we rarely have all the check happy
20:34:43 <gregbartholomew> This one is also somewhat unusual in that it has some video demos at the end. I'm not sure if there are any special rules about those.
20:35:55 <cverna> not that I know of
20:36:14 <gregbartholomew> One other IMPORTANT note to whoever ends up doing the editing -- The visual editor will delete all the newlines in the pre-formatted seciont!!! Watch out!!!
20:36:38 <gregbartholomew> I've been doing a lot of the editing in the "code editor".
20:36:52 <gregbartholomew> I'm not sure what the problem is with this one.
20:37:36 <gregbartholomew> I've had to "save early and safe often" with this one and I had to revert the revision a few times when the newlines got deleted.
20:38:07 <asamalik> sorry I got really distracted here
20:38:14 <gregbartholomew> No problem.
20:38:24 <asamalik> ok, who wants to take this?
20:38:40 * gregbartholomew crickets ...
20:38:50 * asamalik won't have time for more stuff anymore :(
20:39:28 <cverna> yes I can't really commit on taking anything too :(
20:40:08 <cverna> you can put my name and I ll do a best effort for the editing
20:40:28 <cverna> if ryanlerch can do the image that would be awesome :)
20:40:40 <asamalik> so there is one article for Friday already — we might need to push that one to next week.. and we have two more — so we might be all right
20:40:59 <gregbartholomew> cverna: feel free to send it back to me if a major change is needed.
20:41:07 <asamalik> cverna++
20:41:13 <cverna> gregbartholomew: sure
20:41:45 <asamalik> should I volunteer ryanlerch for the image? :P it's probably for next Friday so there's time
20:42:21 <cverna> I think you can volunteer him :)
20:42:35 * cverna will get in trouble for that :P
20:42:41 <jakfrost> .hello
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20:43:04 <asamalik> #info --- FFSend available for Fedora ---
20:43:10 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25821&preview=true
20:43:57 <asamalik> that's the one! we can push it to Monday for example?
20:44:00 <jakfrost> .hello: jakfrost
20:44:55 <cverna> +1
20:44:56 <asamalik> and it's already assigned to stickster from the last meeting
20:45:02 <cverna> jakfrost: o/
20:45:11 * asamalik waves
20:45:43 <jakfrost> cverna, asamalik: /o
20:46:17 <jakfrost> sorry I was busy with something important for customers
20:47:08 <asamalik> ah no worries :)
20:47:46 * asamalik will need to finish a bit sooner today, so let's do schedule?
20:47:52 <cverna> +1
20:47:54 <gregbartholomew> +1
20:48:03 <jakfrost> +1
20:49:18 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 19 April, 4 cool new projects to try in COPR for April 2019 (asamalik) -- Monday  22 April, FFSend available for Fedora (stickster) -- Wednesday 24 April, 2 new apps for music tweakers on Fedora Workstation (NICK:stickster/NICK:stickster) -- Friday 26 April, Mirror your System Drive using Software RAID (cverna:edit/ryanlerch:image)
20:49:39 <cverna> +1
20:49:42 <gregbartholomew> +1
20:49:43 <cverna> Looks good
20:49:51 <asamalik> :D
20:50:00 <asamalik> oops sorry that was for another chat
20:50:06 <asamalik> +1
20:50:12 <jakfrost> +1
20:50:36 <asamalik> but sure let's laugh here as well :D
20:50:38 <asamalik> cool!
20:50:43 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 19 April, 4 cool new projects to try in COPR for April 2019 (asamalik) -- Monday  22 April, FFSend available for Fedora (stickster) -- Wednesday 24 April, 2 new apps for music tweakers on Fedora Workstation (NICK:stickster/NICK:stickster) -- Friday 26 April, Mirror your System Drive using Software RAID (cverna:edit/ryanlerch:image)
20:52:32 <cverna> Anything else ?
20:52:48 <gregbartholomew> Not from me.
20:52:53 <cverna> if not thanks everyone for coming :)
20:52:56 <jakfrost> ditto
20:53:08 <cverna> and have a good easter break
20:53:14 <gregbartholomew> bye o/
20:53:16 <asamalik> sounds good
20:53:19 <asamalik> thanks all!
20:53:47 <asamalik> #endmeeting