18:05:24 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2019-05-01)
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18:05:25 <smooge> #meetingname epel
18:05:25 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions
18:05:25 <smooge> #chair bstinson Evolution nirik smooge pgreco tdawson
18:05:25 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:05:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge tdawson
18:05:34 <smooge> Hello all. thanks for the ping tdawson
18:05:46 <tdawson> Hello ... and your welcome
18:06:09 <nirik> morning
18:07:12 <rsc> .hello
18:07:12 <zodbot> rsc: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
18:07:16 <rsc> .hello robert
18:07:17 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
18:07:22 <smooge> not much to say for this meeting
18:08:01 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:08:13 <Evolution> sorry for the tardy
18:08:21 <smooge> it is ok.. everyone is out for may day
18:08:25 * bstinson waves
18:08:36 <smooge> so there isn't anything on the agenda today.
18:09:11 <Evolution> do we have quorum?
18:09:52 <smooge> nirik, tdawson ,me bstinson Evolution
18:10:11 <smooge> missing pgreco (due to holiday) and ... taht's it
18:10:21 <tdawson> For an agenda item, I was wondering about voting on cleaning up old bodhi updates - https://pagure.io/epel/issue/55 ... if possible.
18:10:33 * nirik voted in ticket
18:11:00 <Evolution> same (just now)
18:11:00 <smooge> Evolution, and bstinson please look at and vote in ticket or here
18:11:39 <bstinson> done
18:11:43 <smooge> ok that is a majority so I think you can do so tdawson
18:11:58 <tdawson> Ya!! ... ok, I'll work the ticket then.
18:11:59 <nirik> tdawson: do you have needed perms to unpush them?
18:11:59 <smooge> when do you want to do so?
18:13:21 <tdawson> I was hoping to do it relatively soon.  At least for the older one's.
18:13:28 <smooge> okie dokie
18:14:26 <tdawson> The 2011 updates, there are only 8 I think, should be a good test to make sure I've got the procedure right.
18:14:49 <smooge> ok cool. worse comes to worse you will just publish them
18:15:27 <smooge> alright anything else for the open follr?
18:15:34 <smooge> open floor
18:15:42 <smooge> seriously I can spell
18:15:59 <Evolution> 1 item to raise from my side.
18:16:08 <smooge> okie dokie
18:16:25 <Evolution> now that f30 is out, I'd like us to start looking at epel8.
18:17:07 <Evolution> smooge had a rough proposal for this work, since we don't know how koji will play with rpms and modules in the same appstream repo
18:17:41 <Evolution> I'd like to start this sometime next week, to get through the glut of work paused during the freeze for f30 first.
18:17:49 <smooge> ok I was thinking of cleaning up the proposal and start working on it in staging
18:18:05 <Evolution> yeah. staging first to test is fine by me.
18:18:17 <smooge> there is one thing.. I am not a proven packager. I am not sure what is needed to add that to my aresenal
18:18:28 <nirik> I hope the modular in nonmodular buildroot stuff exists soon so we can just go to that
18:18:45 <Evolution> same.
18:18:51 <nirik> smooge: you can apply if you like, or we can just make you one in stg...
18:19:06 <nirik> it gets voted on for a week... /me looks for the link
18:19:14 <Evolution> best for both I think.
18:19:23 <nirik> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Provenpackager_policy/
18:19:30 <Evolution> if we can just do it in staging, and then apply for it for reals
18:19:57 <nirik> the main problem with just doing it in stg, is that it would get nuked the next time we sync prod over to stg... but it's fine for short term.
18:20:23 <Evolution> would it survive for ~2 weeks?
18:20:30 <smooge> I think that will be an interesting test on something else.. when we nuke it what odes it break in CentOS
18:21:20 <nirik> well, should be nothing... this is just fas. But yeah, we will need to see what we want to do for src.stg...
18:22:11 <smooge> so I was going to say we sync over fas first, then anything else, then make me pp in staging and we do the work there. I will go through the regular process
18:22:15 <Evolution> is everyone good with the rough plan to wrap up f30 bits and other work this week, and start sorting out epel8 in staging sometime next week?
18:23:35 <smooge> +1 from me
18:23:36 <nirik> sure, although I am not sure how useful the staging work will be without the modular stuff. ;) But we can experement for sure.
18:23:47 <tdawson> +1
18:24:02 <smooge> what modular stuff?
18:24:30 <smooge> oh you mean the koji work
18:24:34 <nirik> ursa prime, or whatever it's called. The ability to build against default modules for non modular packages
18:24:35 <smooge> not mbs
18:24:49 <nirik> right
18:24:49 <tdawson> Although modularity is important for RHEL8, I think EPEL8 can get alot done without it.
18:24:52 <smooge> yeah.. that is still an unknown time out though..
18:25:12 * nirik is not so sure thats the case, but we can see.
18:25:39 <smooge> so sgallagh has his parts done. it is unknown about the changes needed to make them work in the other tools as the work had not started until this week
18:25:41 <Evolution> that's why the staging.
18:25:50 <Evolution> lets see what we can do without the modular bits.
18:26:35 <sgallagh> We're meeting with the Koji folks tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have more information to provide after that.
18:26:38 * nirik isn't sure what needs to be done in koji actually... but right.
18:27:06 <sgallagh> nirik: Support for generating a buildroot by merging multiple external repos
18:27:23 <sgallagh> It was blocked for a while on mergerepo not being module-aware, but I fixed that
18:27:37 <sgallagh> (About three weeks ago now)
18:27:41 <nirik> yeah, except it already does that? but perhaps I missed some subtle thing there.
18:28:04 <smooge> I think it doesn't if there are modules involved
18:28:31 <nirik> well, if it had the new mergerepos_c with the modular handling it would
18:29:31 <smooge> i think we are all in violent agreement. the new mergerepos_c has some flag changes I think for modules and such
18:30:04 <Evolution> sgallagh: can I ask you to follow up with smooge after you talk to the koji folks?
18:30:32 <sgallagh> Evolution: You can ask, sure.
18:31:03 <sgallagh> (Yes, I'll try to make sure our plans are widely shared)
18:32:11 <Evolution> heh
18:32:12 * nirik trusts sgallagh to talk to koji folks for whatever those koji changes might be. ;)
18:32:40 <sgallagh> If nothing else, we need a realignment.
18:32:50 <smooge> and an oil change?
18:32:51 <sgallagh> Because communication has been lacking
18:33:06 <sgallagh> smooge: You know darn well I don't do oil changes.
18:33:06 <nirik> I mean epel7 now uses 5 external repos...
18:33:13 <nirik> but yeah, +1 to more communication
18:33:37 <nirik> and if you want to test, we could possibly do so in our stg env
18:34:02 <smooge> that was what I was aiming for
18:34:20 <smooge> or set up another one just for this
18:35:01 <Evolution> that's all I had.
18:35:04 <smooge> ok
18:35:19 <smooge> any have anythin more on that?
18:35:25 <smooge> or another topic?
18:36:58 <smooge> ok going once
18:37:04 <smooge> going twice.
18:37:21 <smooge> oh wait
18:37:26 <smooge> NO MEETING NEXT WEEK
18:37:59 <smooge> there will be Red Hat Summit and I expect people will be dealing with Summit things
18:38:19 <Evolution> I sure will be.
18:38:21 <smooge> #info Next planned meeting 2019-05-15
18:38:36 <smooge> If we have an unplanned meeting it will just be open floor
18:38:46 <smooge> Thank you all for coming
18:38:48 <smooge> #endmeeting