05:30:39 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:30:39 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:30:39 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:39 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2019-06-04
05:31:05 <tagoh_> hi
05:31:08 <pyadav> hi
05:31:09 <pwu_> hi
05:31:47 <pravins> hi
05:32:21 <suanand> hi
05:33:01 <fujiwarat> hi
05:33:14 <paragan> #chair tagoh_ pyadav pwu_ pravins suanand fujiwarat
05:33:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat paragan pravins pwu_ pyadav suanand tagoh_
05:33:18 <paragan> let's start
05:33:34 <petersen> hi
05:33:46 <paragan> #chair petersen vishalvr
05:33:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat paragan petersen pravins pwu_ pyadav suanand tagoh_ vishalvr
05:34:01 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:34:34 <vishal_vvr> hi
05:34:36 <paragan> I see currently nothing specific going on for Fedora 31
05:35:10 <paragan> but the next milestone is in next month
05:35:16 <paragan> #info 2019-06-26 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (requires infrastructure changes)
05:35:16 <paragan> #info 2019-07-02 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
05:35:16 <paragan> #info 2019-07-02    Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
05:35:54 <paragan> we will discuss about Changes in our ticket
05:36:49 <paragan> moving to next topic
05:37:05 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
05:37:05 <paragan> #info #108: add Fedora CI tests to our important packages (petersen)
05:37:05 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/108
05:37:24 <paragan> any updates on this?
05:37:43 <paragan> I see few of the fonts packages got some CI testing added
05:38:17 <paragan> good to work on other packages as well
05:39:32 <tagoh_> Do we need to have CI tests for every packages?
05:39:55 <paragan> I think so
05:40:44 <paragan> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GatingRawhidePackages
05:41:18 <pravins> those are going to be executed during package build. So should be for each package
05:42:35 <petersen> (I think they need to update the Targeted release field)
05:42:35 <paragan> its after package has been built
05:43:56 <paragan> let's keep working on adding CI tests
05:44:01 <paragan> moving to next ticket
05:44:02 <tagoh_> Right. self testing can be in %check.
05:47:16 <paragan> #info #109: Tracker for Fedora 31 Changes (pnemade)
05:47:16 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/109
05:47:29 <paragan> anyone planning to submit F31 Change?
05:48:37 <paragan> mfabian_, any update on ibus-typing-booster Change?
05:51:13 <paragan> if nothing in planning do think about your current development
05:51:47 <pravins> paragan: thanks.
05:51:59 <paragan> okay, moving to next ticket
05:52:09 <paragan> #info #110: Fedora 29 Bug triaging (pnemade)
05:52:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/110
05:52:37 <paragan> this is just informative ticket to remind all that we have some bugs reported against fedora 29 to triage and work on them :)
05:54:35 <paragan> moving to next ticket
05:55:10 <paragan> #info #113: Planning i18n hackfest during flock 2019 (pravins)
05:55:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/113
05:55:36 <pravins> Proposal has been submitted. Thanks all for providing feedback and input for hackfest.
05:55:52 <pravins> First cycle of proposal review is started already.
05:56:39 <paragan> good to hear that :)
05:56:59 <paragan> let's wait for any feedback on our proposal
05:57:00 <petersen> pravins: thanks
05:57:22 <paragan> pravins++
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05:57:42 <petersen> Btw I am thinking about doing a discusison session on langpacks at Flock
05:57:59 <petersen> Think Silverblue etc
05:58:09 <pravins> petersen: did you proposed slot for it?
05:58:13 <petersen> Not yet
05:58:36 <petersen> I want to do that this week
05:58:38 <pravins> For 1 hour?
05:58:47 <petersen> Max probably
05:58:52 <petersen> Could be
05:59:04 <pravins> LGTM
05:59:23 <petersen> Yeah I hope it would be interesting - pretty interesting to me anyway :)
06:02:23 <petersen> We have more topics?
06:02:37 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:02:43 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:03:25 <petersen> Btw any news on noto cjk vf?  Asking for a friend :)
06:04:04 <petersen> Well there were some mentions about Noto in the WS WG yesterday...
06:04:16 <tagoh_> Nope AFAIK
06:04:18 <petersen> So I checked on the numbers
06:04:20 <petersen> okay
06:04:42 <petersen> tagoh_: but available for general Noto right?
06:04:50 <tagoh_> Right
06:05:01 <tagoh_> already packaged in rawhide
06:06:03 <petersen> Yes
06:06:28 <petersen> Do we have any plan to make noto vf "default" for noto?
06:06:57 <tagoh_> for Noto? aha. sounds interesting
06:07:10 <petersen> Yes
06:07:17 <petersen> Would it make sense for F31?
06:07:30 <tagoh_> Yeah, worth trying.
06:07:44 <petersen> cool
06:08:37 <petersen> It would be a nice Fedora Change
06:09:14 <tagoh_> Aha
06:10:08 <pravins> can someone share more information on Noto VF?
06:10:16 <tagoh_> let me check how many languages affects on this change.
06:10:30 <tagoh_> I guess not too much
06:13:00 <pravins> tagoh_: sure
06:14:06 <petersen> tagoh_: only some have VF?
06:14:21 <petersen> pravins: Variable fonts - dunno how much info available
06:14:38 <pravins> aha, VF means variable fonts. Ok, i got context now :)
06:14:45 <petersen> tagoh_: ah you mean current defaulting to Noto
06:14:50 <petersen> I see
06:14:59 <petersen> sorry too terse
06:15:15 <petersen> got used to just typing vf...
06:17:02 <tagoh_> some language should has Noto as default right? not sure everything but I remember Sinhala should at least.
06:17:43 <pravins> tagoh_: even Punjabi requested to default Google Noto
06:18:16 <pravins> Can someone propose that change?  We dropped that for F30, due to late phase
06:18:52 <tagoh_> Aha. so good to mention that to let users encourage testing and that would be a good reason to propose Changes too.
06:18:55 * pravins commenting on change proposal ticket
06:19:33 <petersen> tagoh_: yes
06:20:00 <tagoh_> Hm, only Sinhala so far it seems.
06:20:13 <petersen> pravins: thanks - I hope we can decide soon
06:20:16 <pravins> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1554988
06:21:13 <petersen> Though we added to the langpack-pa
06:21:25 <petersen> langpacks-pa even
06:22:38 <tagoh_> and yes, variable fonts for Sinhala is available so making VF default in Noto should affects for Sinhala right.
06:24:11 <petersen> Okay
06:24:12 <tagoh_> there are VF for Gurmukhi. so if we are going to make Noto default for Punjabi, that will do too.
06:24:35 <petersen> well could be good guinea pigs 😬️ :)
06:24:43 <petersen> Right
06:25:33 <petersen> vishal_vvr: you were comparing Noto with Lohit fonts?
06:26:07 <vishal_vvr> yes i did for lohit-devanagri-fonts vs noto-deva
06:26:18 <vishal_vvr> dint do for gurumukhi
06:27:34 <vishal_vvr> saw this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1554988 , seems have issues with various glyphs
06:28:20 <petersen> vishal_vvr: yeah pravins mentioned it above
06:28:49 <petersen> vishal_vvr: issues?
06:29:04 <vishal_vvr> hinting issues
06:30:07 <vishal_vvr> my assumption by just viewing the screenshot in bug
06:30:59 <vishal_vvr> petersen, i will take this as AI will compare both noto vs lohit and get back to you with stats
06:31:20 <petersen> Thanks that would be good
06:31:33 <petersen> I see
06:31:52 <tagoh_> may be good to add a comment if you have any issues. probably no one is aware of that hinting issue you said.
06:31:59 <petersen> Yes please
06:32:07 <petersen> and report upstream if not already
06:32:07 <vishal_vvr> sure
06:32:16 <vishal_vvr> thanks
06:34:00 <paragan> let's close the meeting
06:34:03 <paragan> #endmeeting