14:01:37 <pbrobinson> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 14:01:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 28 14:01:37 2019 UTC. 14:01:37 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:01:37 <zodbot> The chair is pbrobinson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:37 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 14:01:37 <pbrobinson> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton 14:01:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson pwhalen 14:01:37 <pbrobinson> #topic roll call 14:01:54 * pwhalen is here 14:02:17 * laubersm is here 14:03:37 * tdawson is here 14:03:58 <pbrobinson> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin ==== 14:06:05 <pwhalen> Anything for admin? 14:06:55 <pbrobinson> I need to update the current move towards Edition 14:09:08 <pbrobinson> #topic 2) ==== Fedora Rawhide AKA F-32 ==== 14:09:20 <pbrobinson> so we have rawhide composes for F-32 as of yesterday 14:09:59 <pbrobinson> #info rawhide is now F-32, those on rawhide ostree branch who wish to stay on F-31 should rebase to devel branch 14:10:10 <pwhalen> nice, I've not had a chance to look. 14:10:25 <laubersm> nice 14:11:33 <pbrobinson> In rawhide I'm considering dropping initial-setup and add ignition packages to enable easier testing of that, the idea would be probable people install branched/31 and rebase to rawhide if they need traditional setup 14:11:35 <pbrobinson> thoughts? 14:12:27 <pwhalen> Sounds good to me, allow easier testing 14:15:13 <pbrobinson> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 31 ==== 14:15:36 <pbrobinson> #info Fedora 31 branched composes happening, on ostree devel branch 14:16:15 <pbrobinson> #info anyone on pre-branched Fedora 31 should rebase to devel branch 14:16:19 <pbrobinson> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/rebasing/ 14:16:29 <pbrobinson> any one got any comments on F-31 14:16:36 <pbrobinson> anyone actually done any testing? 14:17:02 <pwhalen> I'll check out the latest composes. 14:17:11 <pbrobinson> there's a new one running now 14:17:18 <pwhalen> right. 14:17:34 <pbrobinson> there was a minor issue with yesterday's around wireless but it will be fixed in today's 14:19:06 <pwhalen> Only issue I've had was the treeinfo stuff with virt-install. Do we cover virt-install in our docs? 14:19:32 <pwhalen> we likely should add it 14:20:35 <pwhalen> doesn't look like we have it documented yet 14:21:22 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: docs repo is here https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs 14:21:39 <pbrobinson> I have on my list to fix the treeingo 14:21:43 <pbrobinson> treeinfo 14:24:11 <pbrobinson> anyone anything for F-31? 14:24:13 <pwhalen> Looks like some small edits needed on our docs. will try to add the virt-install option as well 14:24:43 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: quite possibly, please do them as separate PRs 14:24:47 <pbrobinson> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 30 ==== 14:24:50 <pwhalen> ok 14:24:59 <pbrobinson> there's been a new compose today 14:25:18 <pbrobinson> I will likely promote that to stable soon if people could please do some testing and report back 14:25:38 <pwhalen> nice, will upgrade my local boxes today 14:25:41 <pbrobinson> #info latest F-30 compose will likely be promoted to stable, please test 14:27:24 <pwhalen> any reported issues in f30? 14:27:46 <pbrobinson> oh good, we're perfect! 14:27:55 <pwhalen> :D 14:27:57 <pbrobinson> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ==== 14:28:12 <tdawson> I have a comment on minimizing and IoT 14:28:47 <tdawson> I'll send out an email, but just to get people thinking. Is there anything in IoT images that we think is "extra baggage" 14:29:34 <tdawson> In other words, are there any packages that we have to have, that are pulling in other packages we do not think need to be in IoT images? 14:30:20 <puiterwijk> tdawson: I'd say: yes, quite a few. 14:30:35 <puiterwijk> And I think Peter is already in discussion with Adam around working together on that 14:31:12 <pbrobinson> tdawson: a metric crap ton 14:31:40 <pbrobinson> and yes, I've had a meeting and a number of discussions with asamalik 14:31:52 <tdawson> Ahh .. OK. I'm working with Adam too. I'm going to be doing more of the packages themselves, while he's doing more of the automation/administrative/webpage stuff. 14:32:55 <tdawson> *nods* OK, I'll bring this up with him and see if he has any action items for me. 14:34:18 <tdawson> That's it for me. 14:36:14 <pbrobinson> tdawson: as a starter I noticed that anaconda-core now pulls in flatpak deps, that should really be in anaconda-gui or some other package so initial-setup doesn't pull it in 14:36:48 <pbrobinson> tdawson: overall trying to reduce the deps initial-setup pulls in would be extremely useful in general on Arm and likely some DE images 14:36:48 <puiterwijk> pbrobinson: but on the other side, if we're getting rid of initial-setup, not sure that matters much to us? 14:37:19 <pbrobinson> puiterwijk: for IoT in the medium term no, for minimisation in the general sense, will still be useful 14:37:27 <puiterwijk> Totally true 14:39:48 <pbrobinson> any one have anything else? 14:40:35 <tdawson> I've put anaconda-core onto my current short list of packages to work on. I've put initial-setup on the long list. 14:42:16 <pbrobinson> tdawson: the two are closely linked 14:42:48 <tdawson> After I talk to asamalik I'll send out an email so we can discuss it more in a better format (something we can send lists to without killing IRC) 14:42:58 <pbrobinson> also a general heads up that September is going to be an insane travel month for me 14:43:25 <pbrobinson> I'll be about but mostly async as I'll have a bunch of meetings, presentations and related 14:50:33 <cverna> .nextmeetings 14:50:33 <zodbot> cverna: One moment, please... 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