14:02:38 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
14:02:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov  6 14:02:38 2019 UTC.
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14:02:39 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk
14:02:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson
14:03:01 <pwhalen> Good morning folks, sorry for the last start. Who is here today?
14:03:07 * puiterwijk hates DST
14:03:10 * puiterwijk is here
14:03:12 <pwhalen> me too!
14:03:30 * pbrobinson is here
14:03:31 <puiterwijk> pwhalen: for some reason, I've got this meeting in my calendar in one hour :D
14:03:33 <pbrobinson> sorry I'm late
14:03:47 <puiterwijk> ("Some reason" == DST)
14:04:06 <puiterwijk> pbrobinson: according to my calendar you're an hour early!
14:04:18 <pbrobinson> I thought I had set this one for UTC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:04:42 <puiterwijk> You probably did, and I just messed up my calendar creation :)
14:04:55 <pbrobinson> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9244/ 14:00 UTC
14:04:55 <pwhalen> yea, its UTC.
14:05:17 <puiterwijk> Figured
14:05:17 <pwhalen> they're talking about ending dst here. Hope it finally happens
14:06:07 * tdawson is here.
14:06:35 <Southern_Gentlem> pwhalen, every year but no one had submitted a bill to congress
14:07:35 <pbrobinson> the EU voted to end it here, no idea when that takes effect
14:08:02 <pwhalen> Ok, lets get started
14:08:05 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:08:33 <pwhalen> Does anyone have anything for admin?
14:10:29 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 31 ====
14:10:29 <pbrobinson> we've gone to Edition now, we're in soft launch
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14:10:41 <pwhalen> :)
14:10:47 <pbrobinson> sorry, I am catching up :)
14:10:48 <pbrobinson> was out
14:11:15 <pwhalen> npnp.
14:11:40 <pbrobinson> we're going to have a call for names to rename "Fedora IoT" to something like silverblue did. Details just as soon as I get organise
14:11:42 <pbrobinson> d
14:12:05 <pbrobinson> will include some sort of prize for the winner (still TBD)
14:12:31 <tdawson> Do you think that will hurt our brand recognition?   Meaning, will people still know it's for IoT stuff?
14:12:39 <tdawson> Hmm ... I guess that would depend on the name.
14:12:48 <pbrobinson> tdawson: well IoT means a lot of things to a lot of people
14:13:28 <tdawson> Ya, I guess you are correct.  There are already people getting mixed up about what Fedora IoT is designed for.
14:13:36 <pbrobinson> so I don't think so, and for a lot of people what we're doing they class as "Edge" not "IoT" with many believing the latter is more MCU style devices so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:14:26 <pbrobinson> and it's still early days, we've not done huge amounts of publicity because small team and I wanted to get it more bedded down before we did a lot of that
14:14:35 <pbrobinson> so I think we should be fine TBH
14:14:40 <pwhalen> good points
14:15:14 <pbrobinson> #info we're ramping up the use of the kanban board, please add issues, ask on the irc or mailing list or ping me if there's access issues
14:15:19 <pbrobinson> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/fedora-iot/kanban
14:15:54 <pwhalen> thanks. Any other questions or admin?
14:16:18 <pbrobinson> not from me
14:16:28 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 31 status ====
14:16:51 <pwhalen> #info Fedora 31 GA release on October 29th
14:17:15 <pbrobinson> We released on the same day as mainline, we pushed to the stable tag on that day too
14:17:33 <pbrobinson> basically everyone should be on F-31 now, or on their next update
14:18:01 <pbrobinson> I did kicked off the first run with updates last night
14:18:03 <tdawson> Good job!! :)
14:18:05 <pbrobinson> please test
14:18:48 <pwhalen> testing looked good for me. Has anyone else had a chance?
14:19:10 <puiterwijk> I tested the tag about two days ago and it worked fine, including tpm based disk unlocking.
14:19:22 <pbrobinson> we're looking too add some IMA enhancements and policy soon, if you have a TPM we'll also be able to enforce on that
14:19:59 <pbrobinson> I'm (slowly) working through that and I'll be doing some docs/blogs on it
14:20:06 * jsmith joins, late
14:20:23 * pbrobinson waves to jsmith
14:20:32 <pwhalen> nice, and nice. I did not test TPM unlocking, so thats good news. Thanks puiterwijk
14:20:57 <pbrobinson> is anyone actually using F-31 IoT and if so which use cases?
14:21:18 <puiterwijk> If anyone has a tpm on hardware they’re willing to test with, feel free to reach out to me and I have some tests to run
14:21:39 <jsmith> pbrobinson: I installed it on a system, but they got bogged down with dayjob/grad school/travel/sickness
14:21:49 <jsmith> puiterwijk: Will do
14:21:51 <pbrobinson> jsmith: which system out of interest
14:22:09 <pbrobinson> puiterwijk: I did but someone else has it now ;-)
14:22:10 <pwhalen> puiterwijk, very interested.. provided I can get it working :)
14:22:10 <jsmith> pbrobinson: A little Dell Optiplex SFF machine...
14:22:40 <puiterwijk> pbrobinson: yep. I’ve got that TPM model covered :). Just want to test some others too :)
14:22:46 <jsmith> pbrobinson: (I think it's an Optiplex 7040 Micro, but I could be wrong)
14:23:17 <pbrobinson> puiterwijk: I actually have an apollo lake system (UP²) with fTPM though, I need to reinstall that to IoT
14:23:47 <puiterwijk> pbrobinson: cool
14:25:16 <pwhalen> anything else for f31?
14:26:05 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 32 status ====
14:26:35 <pbrobinson> so we had our first complete F-32 compose today
14:26:50 <pbrobinson> well it's been a while since we've had a good one
14:27:03 <pbrobinson> and puiterwijk is working on getting the ignition bits in place
14:27:09 <puiterwijk> For f32, we recently added ignition to the composes and enabled it. This does mean they clevis unlocking might not fully work without wired connections (for tpm it doesn’t work because tpm tools changed but that should get fixed soon)
14:27:47 <pbrobinson> right, so we're a bit in flux there ATM but before long it should be better than ever
14:27:50 <puiterwijk> And yeah. I’m currently worming on getting the ignition stuff setup and working in the trees
14:28:40 <pbrobinson> and I'm working to get the last of the ARMv7 bits in place (finally) so we should be able to close that glorious problem out
14:30:10 <pbrobinson> anyone working on F-32 features?
14:30:23 <pbrobinson> anyone have anything on their list they're specifically looking for?
14:35:41 <pwhalen> lets think about this and come back to it next week.
14:36:07 <pbrobinson> right
14:37:03 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== Open Floor ====
14:37:12 <pwhalen> Did anyone have anything else?
14:37:20 <tdawson> Nothing from me
14:37:59 <pbrobinson> today is the last day for DevConf.cz CfP https://www.devconf.info/cz/
14:38:13 <pbrobinson> also think about F-32 features and other related things
14:38:49 <pbrobinson> and that's it from me
14:39:39 <pwhalen> who's going to devconf?
14:41:09 <pwhalen> #endmeeting