13:00:31 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
13:00:31 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine
13:00:31 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
13:00:31 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew bcotton misc
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13:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew misc ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
13:00:36 <stickster> .hello pfrields
13:00:37 <asamalik> .hello2
13:00:37 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
13:00:40 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
13:00:47 <cverna> Hi everyone
13:00:49 <rwaltr> .hello2
13:00:50 <zodbot> rwaltr: rwaltr 'Ryan W Walter' <rwalt@pm.me>
13:00:53 <stickster> Hi y'all :-)
13:01:04 <rwaltr> Morning y'all!
13:01:53 <asamalik> good morning, good afternoon!
13:02:05 <asamalik> good evening! :-)
13:03:34 <asamalik> #topic Agenda
13:03:57 <stickster> I love the fact that we got a publishing schedule set up already :-)
13:04:13 <asamalik> #topic Agenda
13:04:13 <asamalik> #info Fedora Magazine has moved to a new Editorial Workflow
13:04:13 <asamalik> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
13:04:13 <asamalik> #info Following is the meeting agenda that is a slightly different than before:
13:04:13 <asamalik> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
13:04:13 <asamalik> #info -- 2/ Publishing schedule --
13:04:13 <asamalik> #info -- 3/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
13:04:14 <asamalik> #info -- 4/ Open floor --
13:04:16 <asamalik> stickster: yep!
13:04:22 <asamalik> I tweaked the agenda this time
13:04:39 <asamalik> I only want to info the publishing schedule so we can find it at the usual place
13:04:49 <asamalik> then there are a few new proposals to quickly see
13:04:56 <asamalik> and then we can talk about anything!
13:05:01 <asamalik> that works? :)
13:06:24 <stickster> That sounds good to me
13:06:45 <asamalik> cool!
13:06:46 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
13:06:50 <asamalik> #info Week of Nov 4: 97.9K pageviews -- still quite higher than the average after the recent release
13:06:56 <stickster> Indeed
13:07:20 <stickster> We still seem to be getting quite a few hits and comments on the release and upgrading articles
13:07:37 <rwaltr> Noticed that the disk math post brought in what seems to be higher than average engagement as well.
13:08:47 <stickster> People love nitpicky technical things :-)
13:08:59 <stickster> especially when they can leave pedantic comments :-D
13:09:13 <asamalik> heh :D
13:09:17 <cverna> :)
13:09:22 <asamalik> #topic -- 2/ Publishing schedule --
13:09:26 <asamalik> #info We've agreed the following publishing schedule on the list:
13:09:36 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 25: #77 Fedora wear (all done) -- Mon 18: #69 Ansible (edit done, image powergame) -- Wed 20: #20 single sign-on (edit stickster, image done)
13:10:39 <asamalik> #topic -- 3/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
13:10:43 <asamalik> #info Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion?
13:10:43 <asamalik> #link Article proposals: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issues
13:11:16 * stickster dutifully updates the WP to get bug fixes
13:11:26 <asamalik> stickster++
13:11:26 <asamalik> #info -- #4 How to Create a Business Card in Inkscape --
13:11:30 <asamalik> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/4
13:11:42 <asamalik> we have a spec here, need one vote for it to go!
13:11:57 <asamalik> (the third comment is the spec)
13:12:14 <stickster> Wow this a really old proposal.
13:12:21 <asamalik> yep!
13:12:39 <asamalik> it's being resurrected
13:13:02 <stickster> I love the way lruzicka has broken it down
13:13:07 <cverna> +1
13:13:15 <asamalik> yep, me too
13:13:20 <cverna> from me. I ll add it to the ticket
13:13:43 <asamalik> cverna: can you please add it to the board as well? :-)
13:13:55 <cverna> sure
13:14:00 <asamalik> cverna++
13:14:22 <asamalik> #info -- #32 Organizing all those 1s and 0s --
13:14:27 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/32
13:14:57 <asamalik> speaking details and numbers ... :P
13:15:26 <asamalik> *speaking of...
13:16:04 <stickster> heh
13:16:49 <cverna> do we close the pagure ticket once we have a card in taiga ?
13:16:51 <stickster> I like it. Definitely should make sure this gets a strong editorial look -- we had some big boo-boos in the disk space math article apparently.
13:17:14 <asamalik> cverna: yep! and if the person proposing it looks like they want to write it, I'd let a comment about the card there, too
13:17:27 <asamalik> stickster: agree
13:17:35 <asamalik> I like it, too
13:17:40 <stickster> +1, would be nice to track in only one place -- once the author can be correctly assigned in Taiga, that should be the key to closing the pagure issue IMHO
13:17:52 <stickster> asamalik: speaking of which...
13:18:10 <stickster> #idea Should we remove all those pending invitations that are "stuck" due to the way Taiga works?
13:18:27 <asamalik> stickster: yep I'd do that, they have no use there
13:18:38 * stickster can help while you're running the meeting
13:18:46 <asamalik> cool!
13:19:16 <asamalik> re: closing pagure cards: I'd just close them when the proposal is accepted and a card exist in Taiga — for exactly the reason of tracking it on a single place at a given time
13:19:28 <asamalik> and we can coordinate adding new writers on the side
13:19:49 <stickster> +1
13:20:01 <asamalik> coordinating that with them in a closed card worked well for me btw
13:20:40 <cverna> +1 too
13:20:47 <stickster> #agreed get rid of old pending invitations (stickster: DONE)
13:20:54 <asamalik> cverna: since you're creating cards, could you make one more? :)
13:20:58 <asamalik> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/32
13:21:03 <asamalik> nice!
13:21:15 <cverna> yep
13:21:47 <asamalik> and one more!
13:21:51 <asamalik> #info -- #10 Play Stadia Games from Fedora --
13:21:56 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/10
13:22:10 <asamalik> I wonder what others think about this one
13:22:57 <rwaltr> Hmm. Its not an unreasonable request
13:23:31 <rwaltr> Right now cloud gaming options are a bit rough and not very open source.
13:24:01 <stickster> Oh right -- that stadia games thing was kind of holding for when it was actually out and working
13:24:18 <stickster> it was suggested back when stadia was first announced but didn't really "exist"
13:24:47 <asamalik> yeah
13:24:59 <rwaltr> Well it works in a chrome browser right? Would it work in chromium?
13:25:53 <asamalik> technically it only covers Chrome installation — which on its own might not be that interesting, but the fact it works (does it?) on Fedora and saying that explicitly might be valuable?
13:26:57 <rwaltr> It would still be promotion for a closed source product that requires a closed source program from a non-default repository.
13:26:58 <stickster> If someone could try it with Chromium and verify that works, it would be worth mentioning in the article for sure
13:27:43 <stickster> rwaltr: The Magazine policy is that we don't disallow popular closed source software as long as it's legal for people to use anywhere
13:28:15 <stickster> and of course it has to work well on Fedora
13:30:12 <stickster> *chirp chirp* :-D
13:30:23 <stickster> everyone is quickly researching Stadia status
13:30:44 <rwaltr> stickster Thank you for the clarification.  However we do not know if it will work on Fedora yet (I don't know if it has been released yet. On mobile)
13:31:09 <asamalik> considering Stadia is out and works at the time the article goes out, do we want it?
13:31:11 <stickster> Agreed, it's unreleased... IMHO this is safe to sit for another week or so to see how things work
13:31:15 <asamalik> so we don't loose time here researching
13:31:19 <asamalik> I'd leave that up to the author
13:31:26 <asamalik> we can still decide now I'd say
13:31:37 <asamalik> and we have the review later on
13:32:02 <asamalik> or that, sure, deciding not to decide this time is fine I suppose?
13:32:23 <asamalik> there are three more I overlooked we should quickly see before we move to the open floor
13:32:43 <stickster> go for it!
13:32:48 <rwaltr> If stadia is out and works on Fedora then sure. It would help Fedora's image as a gaming OS.
13:33:25 <asamalik> #info -- #28 detailed examination of the elements in the fedora boot process --
13:33:30 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/28
13:34:40 <stickster> Oh that's a pretty cool idea
13:35:12 <stickster> Also something we should make sure that the Fedora kernel folks take a look at before it publishes.
13:35:21 <asamalik> ok, I like the topic, but I'd ask the author to give us an outline before giving it a +1?
13:35:41 <asamalik> stickster: good point! or when we have the outline
13:35:52 <cverna> I like the idea too :)
13:35:58 <stickster> yeah
13:36:40 <asamalik> ok, let me update the card
13:38:06 <asamalik> done
13:38:19 <asamalik> #info -- #30 How to rebase to Fedora 31 on Silverblue --
13:38:24 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/30
13:39:40 <stickster> big ups
13:39:43 <rwaltr> +1 for that.
13:39:54 <asamalik> cool!
13:40:09 <asamalik> cverna: since you love making cards... :D
13:40:52 <cverna> on it
13:41:01 <asamalik> thank you, sir!
13:41:15 <asamalik> #info -- #31 Using the screen utility --
13:41:20 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/31
13:41:40 <stickster> This should probably be tmux nowadays though, right?
13:42:05 <Southern_Gentlem> rwaltr, fyi fedora games lab will not build for f31
13:42:10 <stickster> And we already have https://fedoramagazine.org/use-tmux-more-powerful-terminal/
13:42:42 <rwaltr> Southern_Gentlem Thank you for the heads up.
13:43:07 <Southern_Gentlem> (and yes bugzillas have been filed)
13:44:47 <asamalik> stickster: while I completely agree with you :P ... isn't it still like vim vs emacs?
13:45:26 <stickster> Not sure asamalik -- the big diff is screen is no longer maintained
13:45:41 <asamalik> oh, that I somehow missed
13:45:52 <Southern_Gentlem> '
13:45:56 <asamalik> in that case I'd be -1 for this very reason
13:45:57 <Southern_Gentlem> '
13:46:29 <stickster> Oh wait asamalik -- apparently that's changed in the last year
13:47:02 <stickster> asamalik: burst of activity in 2018 and now appears to have more regular changes
13:47:14 <stickster> So... never mind on my part!
13:47:19 <asamalik> then I'd be +1 — so we cover both of them to make it fair!
13:47:24 <stickster> the more the merrier :-)
13:47:27 <stickster> +1
13:47:53 <asamalik> cool!
13:48:52 * asamalik looks at cverna, but feels like he should create the card this time
13:48:55 <stickster> haha
13:49:11 <asamalik> #topic -- 4/ Open floor --
13:49:37 * cverna send his copy/paste clone to do the job :-)
13:50:35 <asamalik> cverna: thank you and.. it/him? .. again!
13:50:53 <asamalik> ok, anything to talk about in the last 10 mins? :)
13:51:19 <stickster> Hmm
13:51:22 <asamalik> I originally wanted to talk about how we cover the holidays period at the end of the year
13:51:29 <stickster> Go for it asamalik
13:51:34 <asamalik> but that's not gonna happen in the now 9 minutes
13:51:48 <stickster> Oh whoops. But maybe next week, now that our issue queue is clear?
13:52:00 <asamalik> but maybe I just ask people to think about ideas, and we can discuss on the list? :)
13:52:02 <stickster> Plus there's the list
13:52:04 <stickster> +1
13:52:13 <stickster> We do have some options here.
13:52:19 <asamalik> yeah
13:53:30 <asamalik> #info We need to think about how to cover the holiday period at the end of the year. Let's think about it, discuss on the list, and revisit next week!
13:54:30 <asamalik> any volunteer to start the thread? :-)
13:55:22 <Southern_Gentlem> (suggestion rerun some of the most popular from the year, like a year in review)
13:55:57 <stickster> Southern_Gentlem: for sure
13:56:01 <stickster> asamalik: I can start that thread.
13:56:10 <Southern_Gentlem> like using flatpaks
13:56:33 <asamalik> Southern_Gentlem: yeah! there were some worth repeating for sure
13:56:41 <asamalik> some older ones can be also updated for f31
13:56:44 <asamalik> stickster++
13:57:38 <asamalik> all right, I think we're good to go! :-)
13:57:54 <asamalik> take care everyone
13:57:57 <asamalik> #endmeeting