17:59:20 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2020-01-15)
17:59:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 15 17:59:20 2020 UTC.
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17:59:20 <smooge> #meetingname epel
17:59:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
17:59:20 <smooge> #topic aloha
17:59:20 <smooge> #chair nirik smooge tdawson bstinson Evolution pgreco sgallagh merlinm
17:59:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson merlinm nirik pgreco sgallagh smooge tdawson
17:59:21 <smooge> #info Meeting is run from https://board.net/p/epel
17:59:32 <nirik> morning
17:59:41 <pgreco> wow, starting early today!
18:00:42 <smooge> i have been late all week.. I figured I would do one early
18:00:49 <smooge> I think I have the right time
18:00:55 <smooge> .date
18:00:55 <zodbot> smooge: 06:00 PM, January 15, 2020
18:02:24 * nirik always gets the time wrong... until today!
18:02:26 <pgreco> smooge, we're ok, a few seconds early caught me by surprise :)
18:02:46 <smooge> #topic EPEL-6
18:02:46 <smooge> #info EPEL-6 is End of Life in 2020-11. It will be moved to archives in 2020-12
18:02:46 <smooge> #info THIS IS NOT A DRILL.
18:02:56 <smooge> Anything else for EPEL-6
18:03:17 <smooge> Other than the most requests I have for updating packages in the last month have been for EL6
18:04:10 <smooge> #topic EPEL-7
18:04:18 <smooge> Anything on EPEL-7 ?
18:04:44 <nirik> oh...
18:04:51 <nirik> I posted to the list about epel7 aarch64
18:04:54 <sgallagh> I am in a training class all week. I have nothing of substance to report since last week due to other priorities in the way. /driveby
18:04:59 <nirik> not much in the way of replies...
18:05:10 <pgreco> nirik, I think I'm the only one who answered...
18:05:30 <nirik> yeah, thanks for that. :)
18:06:10 <smooge> thanks sgallagh
18:06:37 <smooge> I don't have much on that either
18:06:42 <nirik> so anyhow, dunno what we want to do or if we want to just wait until there's a aarch64 elsewhere to point to
18:06:48 <smooge> oh I do have something for EPEL-7
18:07:44 <smooge> so there are 2 competing channels for toolkits needed to build certain tools (seamonkey/chromium/probably other)
18:08:25 <pgreco> right, the dts combo
18:08:35 <smooge> the one we had enabled was rhel-7-rhscl-for-server-rpms and the other is called rhel-7-devtools-for-server-rpms
18:08:51 <nirik> can we enable both? or they conflict?
18:09:05 <smooge> so they both contain some packages
18:10:30 <pgreco> do we know what are the differences?
18:10:34 <smooge> they both contain devtoolset-7-7.1-4.el7.x86_64.rpm
18:10:58 <smooge> so devtools has devtoolset up until 7.1. Then rhscl has 7.1 -> 9
18:11:11 <smooge> devtools has llvm and rust toolsets
18:11:16 <smooge> rhscl does not
18:12:16 <smooge> so I am not sure what would happen if we added both
18:12:31 <nirik> we can never have nice things. ;(
18:12:36 <pgreco> I think it should work
18:12:52 <smooge> so if everything wasn't on fire.. I would have added this on Monday
18:12:56 <pgreco> but if we can't, I'd stay with rhscl (I think)
18:13:13 <smooge> that sounded like what should be tried
18:13:51 <pgreco> we have rust without scl, so that could be used
18:14:15 <pgreco> and also llvm-70
18:14:47 <smooge> devtools has llvm-8
18:15:13 <pgreco> ok, that may be important
18:15:31 <smooge> and rust 1.37
18:15:56 <nirik> I guess we could try and sync them into one repo (to nuke duplicates) ?
18:16:31 <smooge> though I am not sure how this is supposed to work rust-toolset-1.37-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64.rpm is newer than rust-toolset-7-1.26.2-1.el7.x86_64.rpm
18:16:50 <smooge> i guess there are epochs hiddne somewhere
18:17:35 <smooge> nirik, sure.. i have a golden hammer called grobisplitter that can do that
18:17:58 <nirik> ha. Use that hammer!
18:18:02 <smooge> I have put it as a task on my list of to do
18:18:27 <smooge> anything else on this proble,?
18:18:38 <nirik> not here
18:18:51 <pgreco> not here
18:18:52 <smooge> #topic EPEL-8
18:19:01 <smooge> #info CentOS-8.1 was released today
18:19:13 <nirik> congrats all around!
18:19:31 <smooge> thanks to the hard work pgreco bstinson carlwgeorge and many others put in
18:20:37 <smooge> pgreco, anything EPEL related you know on this?
18:21:19 <pgreco> smooge, not yet, but it was the first c8 with armhfp, so I may need help with those in a few days
18:21:56 <pgreco> I really don't want to have to set up a separate koji, and mbox to build the modules, but at least I'll try to build the non-modular stuff
18:22:37 <nirik> well, mbox should be pretty easy to deploy, much better than a koji
18:23:13 <smooge> understood
18:23:41 <smooge> ok if that is all on this.. I have someone who needs some help
18:24:42 <smooge> they are a new packager and got ok's to be added to some packages in tickets: 1763299, 1769513, 1769511, 1769053, 1769508
18:25:06 <nirik> ok
18:25:18 <smooge> they wanted to know what the next steps were but my time/ability to answer this last week has been 0
18:25:35 <smooge> so I said I would bring up at the meeting to see what should be done nad then send them
18:26:44 <nirik> well, if someone is willing to mentor them they can be added to packager to co-maintain
18:27:00 <nirik> if not, they should ask on epel-devel for a packager to maintain those things.
18:28:25 <smooge> well they are in the packager group already... is it just open a ticket with releng to get added to the package listing the bug and asking for a branch to EPEL-{6,7,8} they want?
18:28:54 <nirik> yeah, if the maintainer doesn't want to deal with epel...
18:29:11 <smooge> I need ot also put out an email to ask for mentors because I would love to do so but have no time
18:29:51 <nirik> yeah, thats often the case with mentoring
18:30:43 <smooge> ok that is all I have
18:31:16 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:31:17 * smooge has run out of coffee and tea
18:31:43 <nirik> how can you live like that! :)
18:33:27 <smooge> i am about ready to crash.. so going to the store to fix it and hten back to meetings
18:33:37 <smooge> #endmeeting